First century + 75 miles the day before?

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I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days) and
then a century the week before or after the MS150 ride.
However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the same
weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I did the MS
ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and a bunch of
other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm thinking of
ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the century club. On
the other hand, I'm thinking that a century is only another
25 miles (over the 75 I'd be doing for the MS150), so why
not ride 75 miles for one day and 100 miles the next?

What think ye?

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In article <opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
> same weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I did
> the MS ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and a
> bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm
> thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the
> century club. On the other hand, I'm thinking that a
> century is only another 25 miles (over the 75 I'd be doing
> for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles for one day and
> 100 miles the next?
>
> What think ye?

Sounds reasonable. If you are confident of being able to
ride 75 miles on consecutive days, then adding another 25 to
one of those days shouldn't be a major problem; it's only
another 33%. I've found that I can increase my long-ride
mileage by 50% at a shot with no major problems, as long as
I'm not riding that much every day.

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Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
> same weekend.
<snip>
> What think ye?

skip the local century & ride an extra 25 miles both days.
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david reuteler reuteler@visi.com

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:08:59 -0400, David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net>
wrote:

> In article <opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
> ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
>> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
>> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
>> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
>> same weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I
>> did the MS ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and
>> a bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm
>> thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the
>> century club. On the other hand, I'm thinking that a
>> century is only another 25 miles (over the 75 I'd be
>> doing for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles for one
>> day and 100 miles the next?
>>
>> What think ye?
>
> Sounds reasonable. If you are confident of being able to
> ride 75 miles on consecutive days, then adding another 25
> to one of those days shouldn't be a major problem; it's
> only another 33%. I've found that I can increase my long-
> ride mileage by 50% at a shot with no major problems, as
> long as I'm not riding that much every day.
>
>

Well, that is a problem -- can I ride 75 each day? Last
year, the 60 miles each day weren't bad, but I'd have to
do about 15 more the first day then about 40 more the next
day to do the 75+100 (and I say about because the distance
on my computer might not be the distance they give). The
other problem is that I like both charities, so I'd like
to give money to both (while getting a fully supported
ride in, too).

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Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

In article <opsavzo5n66snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:08:59 -0400, David Kerber
> <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
> > ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
> >> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two
> >> days) and then a century the week before or after the
> >> MS150 ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century
> >> are on the same weekend. It's also my first century
> >> (last year, I did the MS ride, although it was only 60
> >> miles a day, and a bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On
> >> the one hand, I'm thinking of ditching the MS 150 so
> >> that I can join the century club. On the other hand,
> >> I'm thinking that a century is only another 25 miles
> >> (over the 75 I'd be doing for the MS150), so why not
> >> ride 75 miles for one day and 100 miles the next?
> >>
> >> What think ye?
> >
> > Sounds reasonable. If you are confident of being able to
> > ride 75 miles on consecutive days, then adding another
> > 25 to one of those days shouldn't be a major problem;
> > it's only another 33%. I've found that I can increase my
> > long-ride mileage by 50% at a shot with no major
> > problems, as long as I'm not riding that much every day.
> >
> >
>
> Well, that is a problem -- can I ride 75 each day? Last
> year, the 60 miles each day weren't bad, but I'd have to
> do about 15 more the first day then about 40 more the next
> day to do the 75+100 (and I say about because the distance
> on my computer might not be the distance they give). The
> other problem is that I like both charities, so I'd like
> to give money to both (while getting a fully supported
> ride in, too).

How much training have you been doing so far this year? If
you have been getting in at least a few 50-milers and feel
good after them, I would think you'd be ok, as long as you
be sure to hydrate and refuel consistently during the ride.
I did a hill 70-miler last weekend, which was the longest
I've ever done in a day, but I had several 50-milers in
earlier in the year, and I made sure to carb-up for a couple
of days before, and hydrate the day before, and during the
ride as well. I felt great, and was able to do the last two
miles at over 21 mph as a "finishing sprint".

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I used to ride 100 miles every Saturday and every Sunday,
back before it was a big deal; the same route every time.
It's more of a big deal in an organized ride. If you just
go, you just go the distance you like. As to building up for
it, you just take a ride you enjoy and use the natural
inclination to add an addition side trip to hit another town
here and there, from time to time.

Make it a huge circle so you can shortcut home at any point
for breakdown or something.

There's nothing exhausting about 100 miles a day. It's just
pacing and enjoying it.
--
Ron Hardin rhhardin@mindspring.com

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If it's a group ride, it sounds like you're not racing, nor
shooting for personal best times, so sit in, take a pull if
you feel like it, enjoy both, finish in however long is
comfortable and just make sure to fuel and hydrate during
the rides, and take electrolyte supplements as well. You
should be fine....

Dave

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
> same weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I did
> the MS ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and a
> bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm
> thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the
> century club. On the other hand, I'm thinking that a
> century is only another 25 miles (over the 75 I'd be doing
> for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles for one day and
> 100 miles the next?
>
> What think ye?
>
> --
> Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

I would do the MS 150. It is such a great time. A
century can be done anytime, and it is not that big of a
deal. If you ride 75 and then another 75, you certainly
can do a century.

Enjoy the 150 IMHO, Curt

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
> same weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I did
> the MS ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and a
> bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm
> thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the
> century club. On the other hand, I'm thinking that a
> century is only another 25 miles (over the 75 I'd be doing
> for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles for one day and
> 100 miles the next?
>
> What think ye?
>
> --
> Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

Oops, I didn't read enough. In the MS 150 I did there was a
century option. Not sure if they have that. You could add
the 25 the second day, if you feel like it. Like you said
it is only 25 more. I would just see how you feel and go
from there.

Curt

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net...
> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
> same weekend. It's also my first century (last year, I did
> the MS ride, although it was only 60 miles a day, and a
> bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand, I'm
> thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join the
> century club. On the other hand, I'm thinking that a
> century is only another 25 miles (over the 75 I'd be doing
> for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles for one day and
> 100 miles the next?
>
> What think ye?
>
> --
> Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

Hi:

I just finished the Aids Lifecycle ride from San Francisco to Los Angeles. We had basically two centuries on the ride. I had never ridden more than 60 miles and never more than three times a week. This was 7 days and about 7 to 11 hours of riding each day. I finished it all and never got sagged or had a big med event on the ride. The reason I was able to do it was basically four real key basics that I always stuck to and here they are:

1. I always ate carbs and drank both water and gatorade (electrolyes). The drinks were 1/2 and 1/2. If you have too much electrolyte you will od on the stuff and have to stop riding. Way to little and you'll fade.
2. I always paced my ride to 80 percent of my training ride speed. So even if I felt great I held back thinking that if I still felt great in the last few hours then I could always go for it then. Going for it too early taps you out without any way to recover.
3. I was spinning all the way unless the hill was too big. Always 80 rpm or 90.
4. I never pushed a hill. I just accepted that it would take me however long it took but I would not cruch the pedals and force my way up. I avoided a lot of injuries this way. At sports med at the end of each day there were plenty of people who passed me "on your left" and were being stretched and taped or pulled off the ride. It was my turn to say "on your left" as I walked past them to my tent injury free but slower.

So bascially if it's not a race then pace yourself for a comfortable speed and factor in hills. Be sure to drink lots and eat lots.

Thats it....

Mike Shiflett

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:17:33 GMT, curt <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:

> Oops, I didn't read enough. In the MS 150 I did there was
> a century option. Not sure if they have that. You could
> add the 25 the second day, if you feel like it. Like you
> said it is only 25 more. I would just see how you feel and
> go from there.
>
> Curt
>

Curt,

I'm also thinking of doing this, but I'd rather put up
money for both rides. I still can't believe they scheduled
them both on the same weekend. I'll have to see what I'm
going to do!

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On 09 Jul 2004 20:10:09 GMT, David Reuteler <reuteler@visi.com> wrote:

> Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two days)
>> and then a century the week before or after the MS150
>> ride. However, the MS150 AND the local century are on the
>> same weekend.
> <snip>
>> What think ye?
>
> skip the local century & ride an extra 25 miles both days.

That's an option, just that I won't know where to ride (I
guess I could just ride the opposite direction for 12.5
miles, then turn around). I don't have a great sense of
direction and it's very easy to get lost in CT -- the road
you're on is rarely marked.

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:26:08 -0400, David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net>
wrote:

> In article <opsavzo5n66snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
> ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
>> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:08:59 -0400, David Kerber
>> <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <opsavyvdoq6snke8@news.snet.sbcglobal.net>,
>> > ctviggen.x@adelphia.net says...
>> >> I wanted to ride the MS150 (75 miles a day for two
>> >> days) and then a century the week before or after the
>> >> MS150 ride. However, the MS150
>> AND
>> >> the local century are on the same weekend. It's also
>> >> my first
>> century
>> >> (last year, I did the MS ride, although it was only 60
>> >> miles a day,
>> and
>> >> a bunch of other 60-70 mile rides). On the one hand,
>> >> I'm thinking of ditching the MS 150 so that I can join
>> >> the century club. On the
>> other
>> >> hand, I'm thinking that a century is only another 25
>> >> miles (over the
>> 75
>> >> I'd be doing for the MS150), so why not ride 75 miles
>> >> for one day and 100 miles the next?
>> >>
>> >> What think ye?
>> >
>> > Sounds reasonable. If you are confident of being able
>> > to ride 75
>> miles
>> > on consecutive days, then adding another 25 to one of
>> > those days shouldn't be a major problem; it's only
>> > another 33%. I've found that
>> I
>> > can increase my long-ride mileage by 50% at a shot with
>> > no major problems, as long as I'm not riding that much
>> > every day.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Well, that is a problem -- can I ride 75 each day? Last
>> year, the 60 miles each day weren't bad, but I'd have to
>> do about 15 more the first day then about 40 more the
>> next day to do the 75+100 (and I say about because the
>> distance on my computer might not be the distance they
>> give). The other problem is that I like both charities,
>> so I'd like to give money to both (while getting a fully
>> supported ride in, too).
>
> How much training have you been doing so far this year? If
> you have been getting in at least a few 50-milers and feel
> good after them, I would think you'd be ok, as long as you
> be sure to hydrate and refuel consistently during the
> ride. I did a hill 70-miler last weekend, which was the
> longest I've ever done in a day, but I had several 50-
> milers in earlier in the year, and I made sure to carb-up
> for a couple of days before, and hydrate the day before,
> and during the ride as well. I felt great, and was able to
> do the last two miles at over 21 mph as a "finishing
> sprint".
>
>

I plan on doing many 60+ mile rides, culminating in an 80 or
so mile ride over the hardest terrain I know of.

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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:05:19 GMT, Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>I plan on doing many 60+ mile rides, culminating in an 80
>or so mile ride over the hardest terrain I know of.
>
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I believe Bob is eyeing the Luxor Pyramid, Las Vegas,
Nevada.

Everyone will be behind you Bob, uh, in virtual support and
in spirit.

-B ;-D

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:23:28 -0400, Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:05:19 GMT, Bob in CT
> <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> I plan on doing many 60+ mile rides, culminating in an 80
>> or so mile ride over the hardest terrain I know of.
>>
>> --
>> Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply
>
> I believe Bob is eyeing the Luxor Pyramid, Las
> Vegas, Nevada.
>
> Everyone will be behind you Bob, uh, in virtual support
> and in spirit.
>
> -B ;-D
>

I'm just kidding about the "hardest terrain," although it
will have quite a few hills. Nothing like the stuff the Tour
has, but fun nonetheless. I do more than I have to simply
because one time I hit the wall by not preparing enough, and
I didn't like that experience. So, now I do more than I
really have to in an effort to prevent that.

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