NASCAR drivers are NOT athletes.
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Hey,
Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
baseball players.
Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
and down repeatedly?
Mike
When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the
same opinion as you.
But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a circuit.
I liked it so much that I started racing and then took a
license to race in the local karting championships (I live
in Galicia, northwest of Spain). What I want to inform you
is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort sport, in
fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power to spend when
you train and race. Of course it cannot be compared with
cycling in terms of physical effort (anyway the list of
those sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
driver you must be very well physically. If you don't
believe this please try to check it by driving a racing kart
(I mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who
are inside the sport to tell you.
For your information, I have raced during six years in
cycling (1980-85) and two years in karting (1994-95). Now I
play chess (2003-?)
Regards Antonio Sanchez
"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> escribió en el
mensaje
news:62f26b38.0407102230.7f7a3f84@posting.google.com...
> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then
straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-
clockwise. then straight, then....
"Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message news:rs5Ic.4778$vN3.1833@twister.rdc-
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>
> "ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:62f26b38.0407102230.7f7a3f84@posting.google.com...
> > Hey,
> >
> > Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> > baseball players.
> >
> > Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
>
> What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
> and down repeatedly?
>
> Mike
In article
<62f26b38.0407102230.7f7a3f84@posting.google.com>,
rondechumpion@aol.com says...
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
How much more crap is going to spew forth from your
keyboard?
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Alex
ronde chumpion wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
Whatever happened to the british bid to have Contract Bridge
included in the summer olympics? (I did not make this up)
AMG wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:30:56 -0700, ronde chumpion wrote:
>
>
>>Hey,
>>
>> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
>> baseball players.
>>
>>Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
>
>
> That goes for golfers, too. Walking is not a sport (nor is
> riding in a golf cart).
>
> AMG
Golf is a sport when you carry your own bag. Kind of an
endurance sport, walking 18 holes, hauling around all that
weight in the sun and still trying to hit the ball well. All
bets are off when you have a caddy and a cart, tho.
"Monty" <monty@nanandmont.com> wrote in message
news:fMbIc.1007$Oj4.826@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then
> straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-
> clockwise. then straight, then....
Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to
practice turning one way. That tip should cut down on their
workout routine.
Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it
and smoke a cigarette at the same time.
-- Mike
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
Some sports are VERY aerobic, very physical, others are
significantly less so.
It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is
90% mental, so the physical and strength and exertion part
is only 10%, right? Could one then say the top NASCAR guy
and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90% the
same champion?
Frank Dumoulan (FRA), Tanu Kiriakov (BUL), Tao Luna (CHN)
and Jonas Edman (SWE) participate in what must be the LEAST
aerobic sports in the olympics, but their medals from
Syndey 2000 are just as GOLD as all the others! And their
sport is just as mentailly demanding, maybe more-so than
most of the others.
Poole Arizona (in training for 2008)
> What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
> and down repeatedly?
>
I think thats riding a bike...... I will never understand
the apeal nascar has to some people. Why is dale
e...whatever regarded as such a hero?
"Bill Poole" <billpoolenewsgroup@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PThIc.357$h57.58416@news.uswest.net...
> It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is
> 90% mental, so the physical and strength and exertion part
> is only 10%, right? Could one then say the top NASCAR guy
> and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90% the
> same champion?
Maybe in future Olympics, they could include the sport of
writing legal briefs. That's kind of mental, and the trips
on the steps the law library could divide the sprinters from
the climbers.
M.
Michael wrote:
> "Monty" <monty@nanandmont.com> wrote in message
> news:fMbIc.1007$Oj4.826@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then
>>straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-
>>clockwise. then straight, then....
>
>
> Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to
> practice turning one way. That tip should cut down on
> their workout routine.
>
> Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it
> and smoke a cigarette at the same time.
>
> -- Mike
>
>
How about have a bear gut and still compete at the top
level?
"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message news:ccsal0$sul@dispatch.concentric.net...
> Michael wrote:
> > "Monty" <monty@nanandmont.com> wrote in message
> > news:fMbIc.1007$Oj4.826@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then
> >>straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight, then
> >>counter-clockwise. then straight, then....
> >
> >
> > Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to
> > practice turning one way. That tip should cut down on
> > their workout routine.
> >
> > Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at
> > it and smoke a cigarette at the same time.
> >
> > -- Mike
> >
> >
>
> How about have a bear gut and still compete at the
> top level?
Warren Sapp.
M.
Bill Poole wrote:
>> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
>> baseball players.
>
>
> Some sports are VERY aerobic, very physical, others are
> significantly less so.
>
> It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is
> 90% mental, so the physical and strength and exertion part
> is only 10%, right? Could one then say the top NASCAR guy
> and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90% the
> same champion?
>
> Frank Dumoulan (FRA), Tanu Kiriakov (BUL), Tao Luna (CHN)
> and Jonas Edman (SWE) participate in what must be the
> LEAST aerobic sports in the olympics, but their medals
> from Syndey 2000 are just as GOLD as all the others! And
> their sport is just as mentailly demanding, maybe more-so
> than most of the others.
>
> Poole Arizona (in training for 2008)
>
>
I think I'd accept car racing in the olympics if the drivers
had to compete in one of these:
http://www.pedalcar.com/
What about Poker? It's on ESPN! :-)
"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
"Antonio Sanchez" <tony.sanchez@finecycling.com> wrote in message
news:ccra3i$kn3186@cesio.mundo-r.com...
> When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the
> same opinion as you.
>
> But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a
> circuit. I liked it so much that I started racing and then
> took a license to race in the local karting championships
> (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain). What I want to
> inform you is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort
> sport, in fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power
> to spend when you train and race. Of course it cannot be
> compared with cycling in terms of physical effort (anyway
> the list of those sports is not so big), but in order to
> be a good driver you must be very well physically. If you
> don't believe this please try to check it by driving a
> racing kart
(I
> mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who are
> inside the
sport
> to tell you.
>
> For your information, I have raced during six years in
> cycling (1980-85)
and
> two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess (2003-?)
>
> Regards Antonio Sanchez
>
IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure
'athletes' in the same vein as cyclists, basketball players,
etc., they do have to have some level of physical fitness to
be able to drive a car around for hours on end at very high
rates of speed. Like any pro-level athlete, they make it
look easy because they are on a different plane than your
average weekend warrior. In addition, similar to pro
cyclists superhuman genetics, I believe top racecar drivers
have their own superhuman genetics - reflexes and
concentration abilities.
Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not enough
- get out there and drive in a real race to get the full
effect. It's not as easy as it looks - both physically and
mentally. Jeff
>
>
>
>
> "ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> escribió en el
> mensaje
> news:62f26b38.0407102230.7f7a3f84@posting.google.com...
> > Hey,
> >
> > Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> > baseball players.
> >
> > Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
In article <xnmIc.47541$9t6.23345@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, J Jones
<nfw@spammers.net> wrote:
> "Antonio Sanchez" <tony.sanchez@finecycling.com> wrote in
> message news:ccra3i$kn3186@cesio.mundo-r.com...
> > When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have
> > the same opinion as you.
> >
> > But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a
> > circuit. I liked it so much that I started racing and
> > then took a license to race in the local karting
> > championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
> > What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by no
> > means a no-effort sport, in fact there is a lot of
> > energy and muscle power to spend when you train and
> > race. Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in
> > terms of physical effort (anyway the list of those
> > sports is not so big), but in order to be a good driver
> > you must be very well physically. If you don't believe
> > this please try to check it by driving a racing kart
> (I
> > mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who
> > are inside the
> sport
> > to tell you.
> >
> > For your information, I have raced during six years in
> > cycling (1980-85)
> and
> > two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess
> > (2003-?)
> >
> > Regards Antonio Sanchez
> >
>
> IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure
> 'athletes' in the same vein as cyclists, basketball
> players, etc., they do have to have some level of physical
> fitness to be able to drive a car around for hours on end
> at very high rates of speed. Like any pro-level athlete,
> they make it look easy because they are on a different
> plane than your average weekend warrior. In addition,
> similar to pro cyclists superhuman genetics, I believe top
> racecar drivers have their own superhuman genetics -
> reflexes and concentration abilities.
>
> Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not
> enough - get out there and drive in a real race to get the
> full effect. It's not as easy as it looks - both
> physically and mentally. Jeff
People should watch the video of Jeff Gordon getting out of
his car in victory circle after he won the Infineon race. He
could barely craw out of his car because he was so wipped
out. Thigs were worse for Jeff because his airconditioned
driving suit failed so he was dealing with 150 degree heat
in his car during the last 1/2 of his race. Also road
courses are much tougher than oval tracks.
Look at the riders who are near the top of the driver
standings in NASCAR. They are not overweight or out of
shape. The top drivers are in good shape ( not in the fattie
masters category).
Als if auto racing is not physically demanding how come
there aren't a bunch of women in the top levels of racing.
Of course there is some good old boy club" mentality that
helps make it tough on women drivers but there are enough
women in the ower levels of racing so that if physical
concerns weren't important a few more of them should have
cricked into the top ranks of racing by now.
"Casey Kerrigan" <casey@caseykerrigan.com> wrote in message
news:110720041919396422%CAsey@caseykerrigan.com...
> In article <xnmIc.47541$9t6.23345@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
> J Jones <nfw@spammers.net> wrote:
>
> > "Antonio Sanchez" <tony.sanchez@finecycling.com> wrote
> > in message news:ccra3i$kn3186@cesio.mundo-r.com...
> > > When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have
> > > the same opinion as you.
> > >
> > > But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a
> > > circuit. I liked it so much that I started racing and
> > > then took a license to race in the local karting
> > > championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
> > > What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by
> > > no means a no-effort sport, in fact there is a lot of
> > > energy and muscle power to spend when you train and
> > > race. Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in
> > > terms of physical effort (anyway the list of those
> > > sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
> > > driver you must be very well physically. If you don't
> > > believe this please try to check it by driving a
> > > racing kart
> > (I
> > > mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who
> > > are inside the
> > sport
> > > to tell you.
> > >
> > > For your information, I have raced during six years in
> > > cycling (1980-85)
> > and
> > > two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess
> > > (2003-?)
> > >
> > > Regards Antonio Sanchez
> > >
> >
> > IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure
> > 'athletes' in the same vein as cyclists, basketball
> > players, etc., they do have to have some level of
> > physical fitness to be able to drive a car around for
> > hours on end at very high rates of speed. Like any pro-
> > level athlete, they make it look easy because they are
> > on a different plane than your average weekend warrior.
> > In addition, similar to pro cyclists superhuman
> > genetics, I believe top racecar drivers have their own
> > superhuman genetics - reflexes and concentration
> > abilities.
> >
> > Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not
> > enough - get out there and drive in a real race to get
> > the full effect. It's not as easy as it looks - both
> > physically and mentally. Jeff
>
> People should watch the video of Jeff Gordon getting out
> of his car in victory circle after he won the Infineon
> race. He could barely craw out of his car because he was
> so wipped out.
Yeah, diesel truck drivers are like that too.
M.
Formula 1 guys have heart rates at around 180 bpm during a
race, i have heard. With all that 3 and 4 g's and stuff.
"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball
players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
rondechumpion@aol.com (ronde chumpion) wrote in message news:<62f26b38.0407102230.7f7a3f84@posting.google.com>...
> Hey,
>
> Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most
> baseball players.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
If you can successfully define athlete so that it excludes
the groups above, it'd be worth hearing.
In my experience, people decide they don't like something
THEN they figure out a way to denigrate it. You may not
be that type of person, but it sure seems like it from
your post.
Roland
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