Mrbadog
Robbie does it again : http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
View Full Version : If there were a jersey for running your mouth . . .
Ken Papai
"mrbadog" <.google.com...
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
Wrote in part, "When you're lying on the road with broken
bones and have abuse shouted at you, it's beneath contempt.
McEwen doesn't have any friends and certainly won't make any
if he continues like this," said an enraged Peter Wrolich,
Haselbacher's team-mate, in an interview with Austrian
television channel ORF.
"I've informed the Lotto-Domo team and the race organisation
of McEwen's disgraceful occurrence. Whoever gives way to his
lowest instincts should be sent home," said Gerolsteiner
team manager Hans-Michael Holczer. Following an official
complaint from Holczer to the Tour de France management and
the Lotto-Domo team, McEwen apologised for his faux pas. "
OLN had a secret Eurosport video that showed Hasselbacher's
crash -- it was tricky to see but it appears the catch of
the slower Flecha started the pile-up. Hassel. did not seem
to hook the barriers on anyone else.
-Ken
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
Wrote in part, "When you're lying on the road with broken
bones and have abuse shouted at you, it's beneath contempt.
McEwen doesn't have any friends and certainly won't make any
if he continues like this," said an enraged Peter Wrolich,
Haselbacher's team-mate, in an interview with Austrian
television channel ORF.
"I've informed the Lotto-Domo team and the race organisation
of McEwen's disgraceful occurrence. Whoever gives way to his
lowest instincts should be sent home," said Gerolsteiner
team manager Hans-Michael Holczer. Following an official
complaint from Holczer to the Tour de France management and
the Lotto-Domo team, McEwen apologised for his faux pas. "
OLN had a secret Eurosport video that showed Hasselbacher's
crash -- it was tricky to see but it appears the catch of
the slower Flecha started the pile-up. Hassel. did not seem
to hook the barriers on anyone else.
-Ken
Max Taylor
mrbadog wrote:
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
"From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
“I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was holding
my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown into the
barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of one the
barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor holding my
head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in my face:
'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
"From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
“I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was holding
my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown into the
barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of one the
barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor holding my
head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in my face:
'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
Trg
mrbadog wrote:
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
Chris
"mrbadog" <mrbadog@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
I want to know what kind of handlebars he was using.
news:34308c7.0407110902.1fef7f2b@posting.google.com...
> Robbie does it again :
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
I want to know what kind of handlebars he was using.
Stig Are M. Bot
On 2004-07-11, trg <trg@world.REMOVETHIS.std.com> wrote:
> mrbadog wrote:
>> Robbie does it again :
>> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
> it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
> who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
Nope. He went down in the 3. stage without taking
anyone with him.
--
Stig Are M. Botterli samb@midgardsormen.net
> mrbadog wrote:
>> Robbie does it again :
>> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
> it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
> who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
Nope. He went down in the 3. stage without taking
anyone with him.
--
Stig Are M. Botterli samb@midgardsormen.net
Tom Kunich
"max taylor" <m@t> wrote in message news:ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com...
> mrbadog wrote:
> > Robbie does it again :
> > http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
> "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
> them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
> pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
> liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
>
> “I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
> stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was
> holding my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown
> into the barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of
> one the barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor
> holding my head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in
> my face: 'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
>
> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
> handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
All of the manufacturers have been going to lighter and
lighter bars and stems and so NO it isn't unusual anymore
for them to break. I don't buy or use stupid light stuff and
it surprises me that racers do. Can anyone suggest why a 225
gram dangerously thin bar would be preferable to a 240 gram
bullet proof one?
> mrbadog wrote:
> > Robbie does it again :
> > http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
> "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
> them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
> pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
> liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
>
> “I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
> stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was
> holding my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown
> into the barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of
> one the barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor
> holding my head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in
> my face: 'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
>
> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
> handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
All of the manufacturers have been going to lighter and
lighter bars and stems and so NO it isn't unusual anymore
for them to break. I don't buy or use stupid light stuff and
it surprises me that racers do. Can anyone suggest why a 225
gram dangerously thin bar would be preferable to a 240 gram
bullet proof one?
Richard Adams
max taylor wrote:
> mrbadog wrote:
>
>> Robbie does it again :
>> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
> "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
> them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
> pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
> liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
>
> “I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
> stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was
> holding my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown
> into the barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of
> one the barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor
> holding my head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in
> my face: 'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
>
> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
> handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
I'm sure it's amazing and very disappointing to find
yourself going 60km/Hr and find handlebar parts in your
hands, moving independently of the stem. There was some
issue in the 2002 TdF of a batch of Dedacci breaking on one
teams bikes at the end of a stage. Granted, there could have
been some problem with the mechanic overtightening the stem
and exceding the elastic coeficient (or putting it
perilously close so a good hard pull would fracture the
bar.) Most fo the riders were able to coast to a stop
without falling.
> mrbadog wrote:
>
>> Robbie does it again :
>> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
> "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> rider is nursing a broken nose, three broken ribs – one of
> them making it hard to breathe and speak because it’s
> pressing on one lung - in addition to bleeding from the
> liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains what happened:
>
> “I was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand side. As I
> stood up in the saddle I heard this crack and I was
> holding my handlebars in two pieces. Then I was thrown
> into the barrier. I probably broke my ribs on the foot of
> one the barriers. I was lying on the ground, the doctor
> holding my head, when McEwen came up to me and screamed in
> my face: 'You’re doing the same **** as last year.'"
>
> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
> handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
I'm sure it's amazing and very disappointing to find
yourself going 60km/Hr and find handlebar parts in your
hands, moving independently of the stem. There was some
issue in the 2002 TdF of a batch of Dedacci breaking on one
teams bikes at the end of a stage. Granted, there could have
been some problem with the mechanic overtightening the stem
and exceding the elastic coeficient (or putting it
perilously close so a good hard pull would fracture the
bar.) Most fo the riders were able to coast to a stop
without falling.
Richard Adams
trg wrote:
> mrbadog wrote:
>
>>Robbie does it again :
>>http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
>
> it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
> who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
>
>
IIRC he came unclipped and zagged into the barriers.
> mrbadog wrote:
>
>>Robbie does it again :
>>http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>
>
> it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
> who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
>
>
IIRC he came unclipped and zagged into the barriers.
Kurgan Gringion
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "max taylor" <m@t> wrote in message
news:ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > mrbadog wrote:
> > > Robbie does it again :
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=3D228
> > "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> > rider is
nursing
> > a broken nose, three broken ribs =E2=80=93 one of them
> > making it hard
to breathe
> > and speak because it=E2=80=99s pressing on one lung - in
> > addition to
bleeding
> > from the liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains
> > what happened:
> >
> > =E2=80=9CI was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand
> > side. As I
stood up in
> > the saddle I heard this crack and I was holding my
> > handlebars in
two
> > pieces. Then I was thrown into the barrier. I probably
> > broke my
ribs on
> > the foot of one the barriers. I was lying on the ground,
> > the doctor holding my head, when McEwen came up to me
> > and screamed in my face: 'You=E2=80=99re doing the same
> > **** as last year.'"
> >
> > Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising
> > for the
handlebars
> > (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
>
> All of the manufacturers have been going to lighter and
> lighter bars
and
> stems and so NO it isn't unusual anymore for them to
> break. I don't
buy or
> use stupid light stuff and it surprises me that racers do.
> Can anyone suggest why a 225 gram dangerously thin bar
> would be preferable to a
240
> gram bullet proof one?
Dumbass -
240 gram handlebars aren't bulletproof (although they may be
to Cat 5-type Freds who don't generate much force or ride
many miles)
> "max taylor" <m@t> wrote in message
news:ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > mrbadog wrote:
> > > Robbie does it again :
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=3D228
> > "From his hospital bed in Angers where the Gerolsteiner
> > rider is
nursing
> > a broken nose, three broken ribs =E2=80=93 one of them
> > making it hard
to breathe
> > and speak because it=E2=80=99s pressing on one lung - in
> > addition to
bleeding
> > from the liver and the kidneys, Haselbacher explains
> > what happened:
> >
> > =E2=80=9CI was passing Bernhard Eisel on the left-hand
> > side. As I
stood up in
> > the saddle I heard this crack and I was holding my
> > handlebars in
two
> > pieces. Then I was thrown into the barrier. I probably
> > broke my
ribs on
> > the foot of one the barriers. I was lying on the ground,
> > the doctor holding my head, when McEwen came up to me
> > and screamed in my face: 'You=E2=80=99re doing the same
> > **** as last year.'"
> >
> > Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising
> > for the
handlebars
> > (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
>
> All of the manufacturers have been going to lighter and
> lighter bars
and
> stems and so NO it isn't unusual anymore for them to
> break. I don't
buy or
> use stupid light stuff and it surprises me that racers do.
> Can anyone suggest why a 225 gram dangerously thin bar
> would be preferable to a
240
> gram bullet proof one?
Dumbass -
240 gram handlebars aren't bulletproof (although they may be
to Cat 5-type Freds who don't generate much force or ride
many miles)
patch70
Originally posted by Richard Adams
IIRC he came unclipped and zagged into the barriers And stuffed up the run in of several the top sprinters. Hence making him earn a reputation as being dangerous in sprints.
IIRC he came unclipped and zagged into the barriers And stuffed up the run in of several the top sprinters. Hence making him earn a reputation as being dangerous in sprints.
Tritonrider
>ken@kenpapai.com
>Date: 7/11/2004 1:36 PM Eastern
>OLN had a secret Eurosport video that showed Hasselbacher's
>crash -- it was tricky to see but it appears the catch of
>the slower Flecha started the pile-up. Hassel. did not seem
>to hook the barriers on anyone else.
>
>
>-Ken
>
Is McWhiner the lowest form of life on the circuit or what?
Has anything negative ever been his fault? He's always got
someone else, or something else to blame. I don't think
that I've ever heard him say "I screwed up, sorry." What a
complete loser. Every time he goes off I keep seeing the
scene from "Breaking Away" with the tire pump and thinking
that this could happen to McWhiner and noone would have
seen a thing when the officials asked. Bill C
>Date: 7/11/2004 1:36 PM Eastern
>OLN had a secret Eurosport video that showed Hasselbacher's
>crash -- it was tricky to see but it appears the catch of
>the slower Flecha started the pile-up. Hassel. did not seem
>to hook the barriers on anyone else.
>
>
>-Ken
>
Is McWhiner the lowest form of life on the circuit or what?
Has anything negative ever been his fault? He's always got
someone else, or something else to blame. I don't think
that I've ever heard him say "I screwed up, sorry." What a
complete loser. Every time he goes off I keep seeing the
scene from "Breaking Away" with the tire pump and thinking
that this could happen to McWhiner and noone would have
seen a thing when the officials asked. Bill C
patch70
Originally posted by Mrbadog
Robbie does it again Last year Robbie lost the Green Jersey by about 1 point (roughly). Hasselbacher, who is known as a rider that causes crashes in sprints, takes out Robbie and deprives him of at least 20 points. If you were in Robbie's position, you don't think you'd be at least a little annoyed?
Robbie does it again Last year Robbie lost the Green Jersey by about 1 point (roughly). Hasselbacher, who is known as a rider that causes crashes in sprints, takes out Robbie and deprives him of at least 20 points. If you were in Robbie's position, you don't think you'd be at least a little annoyed?
Alex Rodriguez
In article <ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com>, m@t says...
>Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
>handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
Not during this tour. During the TTT one of the phonak
riders also broke their bars. Anyone know what kind of bars
these riders were riding on? How about what kind of tires
was Phonak riding during the TTT, they had a lot more flats
than the other teams.
--------------
Alex
>Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising for the
>handlebars (on what must be some amazing bike) to break?
Not during this tour. During the TTT one of the phonak
riders also broke their bars. Anyone know what kind of bars
these riders were riding on? How about what kind of tires
was Phonak riding during the TTT, they had a lot more flats
than the other teams.
--------------
Alex
Raptor
Stig Are M. Botterli wrote:
> On 2004-07-11, trg <trg@world.REMOVETHIS.std.com> wrote:
>
>>mrbadog wrote:
>>
>>>Robbie does it again :
>>>http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>>
>>it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
>>who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
>
>
> Nope. He went down in the 3. stage without taking anyone
> with him.
But just barely. Cooke & McEwen were both fighting him off
when he fell.
--
--
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"We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"
> On 2004-07-11, trg <trg@world.REMOVETHIS.std.com> wrote:
>
>>mrbadog wrote:
>>
>>>Robbie does it again :
>>>http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=228
>>
>>it doesn't excuse McEwen, but wasn't Hasselbacker the one
>>who caused the huge pileup in last year's stage 1?
>
>
> Nope. He went down in the 3. stage without taking anyone
> with him.
But just barely. Cooke & McEwen were both fighting him off
when he fell.
--
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
"We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"
Benjamin Weiner
tritonrider@aol.com (TritonRider) wrote:
> Is McWhiner the lowest form of life on the circuit or
> what? Has anything negative ever been his fault? He's
> always got someone else, or something else to blame. I
> don't think that I've ever heard him say "I screwed up,
> sorry." What a complete loser. Every time he goes off I
> keep seeing the scene from "Breaking Away" with the tire
> pump and thinking that this could happen to McWhiner and
> noone would have seen a thing when the officials asked.
McWhiner did lose a lot of skin in the crash, and he
can't have known Hasselbacher's bars broke - that doesn't
happen that often. None of that excuses yelling at some
poor bloodied schmuck on the ground. But hell, I've seen
heated arguments about minor blocking incidents after fat
masters races ...
After he won his stage, McEwen was interviewed for TV and
said "I'd like to dedicate this race to Matt White who
couldn't start, and to Stive Vermaut who is being buried
today in Belgium, who used to ride for our team." That was
classy. So he does have a higher impulse every now and then.
> Is McWhiner the lowest form of life on the circuit or
> what? Has anything negative ever been his fault? He's
> always got someone else, or something else to blame. I
> don't think that I've ever heard him say "I screwed up,
> sorry." What a complete loser. Every time he goes off I
> keep seeing the scene from "Breaking Away" with the tire
> pump and thinking that this could happen to McWhiner and
> noone would have seen a thing when the officials asked.
McWhiner did lose a lot of skin in the crash, and he
can't have known Hasselbacher's bars broke - that doesn't
happen that often. None of that excuses yelling at some
poor bloodied schmuck on the ground. But hell, I've seen
heated arguments about minor blocking incidents after fat
masters races ...
After he won his stage, McEwen was interviewed for TV and
said "I'd like to dedicate this race to Matt White who
couldn't start, and to Stive Vermaut who is being buried
today in Belgium, who used to ride for our team." That was
classy. So he does have a higher impulse every now and then.
Steven L. Sheff
On 07/11/2004 09:48 PM, in article cct1mc$8t4$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu,
"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote:
> In article <ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com>, m@t says...
>
>> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising
>> for the handlebars (on what must be some amazing
>> bike) to break?
>
> Not during this tour. During the TTT one of the phonak
> riders also broke their bars. Anyone know what kind of
> bars these riders were riding on? How about what kind of
> tires was Phonak riding during the TTT, they had a lot
> more flats than the other teams.
Continental track tires.
--
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"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote:
> In article <ccs2g402ui0@enews2.newsguy.com>, m@t says...
>
>> Forgive my ignorance here, but isn't it surprising
>> for the handlebars (on what must be some amazing
>> bike) to break?
>
> Not during this tour. During the TTT one of the phonak
> riders also broke their bars. Anyone know what kind of
> bars these riders were riding on? How about what kind of
> tires was Phonak riding during the TTT, they had a lot
> more flats than the other teams.
Continental track tires.
--
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at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
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