Hybrid recommendations??

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Claude

Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and hence
looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and can get a new one
for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its attractive because of the LX/XT
componentry, albeit a little heavy. Does anyone have any views on other
options or places in Melbourne to buy (including used)?
Thanks
Claude

Comfort Gusset

"Claude" <Claude@claude.com> wrote in message
news:YqrJc.1975$K53.252@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and hence
> looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and can get a new
one
> for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its attractive because of the LX/XT
> componentry, albeit a little heavy. Does anyone have any views on other
> options or places in Melbourne to buy (including used)?
> Thanks
> Claude
>
>

"Hybrid.....the worst of both worlds."

Comfort Gusset

"Comfort Gusset" <fart@work.oz> wrote in message news:40f64a4b@news1...
>
> "Claude" <Claude@claude.com> wrote in message
> news:YqrJc.1975$K53.252@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and hence
> > looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and can get a new
> one
> > for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its attractive because of the LX/XT
> > componentry, albeit a little heavy. Does anyone have any views on other
> > options or places in Melbourne to buy (including used)?
> > Thanks
> > Claude
> >
> >
>
>
> "Hybrid.....the worst of both worlds."
>
>

Seriously, spend a little more and get a Road and MTN bike. The thief has
given you the perfect opportunity.

DRS

"Comfort Gusset" <fart@work.oz> wrote in message news:40f65237$1@news1
> "Comfort Gusset" <fart@work.oz> wrote in message
> news:40f64a4b@news1...
>> "Claude" <Claude@claude.com> wrote in message
>> news:YqrJc.1975$K53.252@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and
>>> hence looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and
>>> can get a new one for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its
>>> attractive because of the LX/XT componentry, albeit a little heavy.
>>> Does anyone have any views on other options or places in Melbourne
>>> to buy (including used)?
>>
>> "Hybrid.....the worst of both worlds."
>
> Seriously, spend a little more and get a Road and MTN bike. The
> thief has given you the perfect opportunity.

He said he was happy with his hybrid, you arrogant fool.

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kingsley

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:47:57 +1000, Comfort Gusset wrote:

> Seriously, spend a little more and get a Road and MTN bike. The thief has
> given you the perfect opportunity.

I don't get the whole "master of none" anti hybrid arguments.

Around here (rural-urban fringe) you get everything from fresh hotmix
to fairly dusty dirt roads. Which bike should I take for my ride - the
roadie that gets me to the backroads, or the MTB that performs
(supposedly) better once I get to the dirt?

The ride position (more upright) argument is a complete wed herring,
since damn-near all mass produced bikes have oodles of flexibility with
seat positioning and handlebar height. You can ride sitting up or as
aerodynamic as you choose.

And where does the Road | Hybrid | Mountain bike distinction
start and end... What about something like Trek's 1200 "road bike
with flat bars" Is that a hybrid? Is it a roadie? What about touring
bikes like Cannondale's T2000 - it has the drop-bars, yet that longer
chainstay, does the chainstay make it hybrid and no good?

Of course one of the traditional MTB Vs Road distinctions was the sloping
top-tube. How many bikes in this years TdF _don't_ have this. Are all
700C wheeled bikes with a sloping top tube hybrid bikes?, what if they
have a triple chainring? Flat bars? Are ridden on mountain trails?

Just because a bike is particularly specialised for either riding on road,
or riding on mountain trails doesn't make it good or bad. A bike is
perfect when the _rider_ finds it suitable for the intended purpose.

-kt

PS> sorry if this sounded like a rant, although I guess it is a bit.

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Yuri Budilov

FWIW

I was going to buy a hybrid for me and my wife to share as our first bicycle
late last year (2003)......

In my research on various bicycle types I have found that the problem with
all so called hybrid designs is that they are not driven by competitive
cycling sport as much as say pure MTB and pure road/racing bicycles are. And
they sell far fewer hybrids than MTB bikes according to what I could find.

I also found that hybrid bicycles often cost more than more or less
equivalent MTB bikes. This all is probably due to low volumes they sell to
re-coup their investment. Not sure. And often, but not always, hybrids are
as heavy or heavier than MTB too. Check out Trek MTB versus Trek hybrid
prices and specs, on the web as example.

All this made me buy MTB than a hybrid as first bicycle. But then I also
bought a road/racing bike as well but that is another story! You can say the
cycling bug bit me 8^)

good luck regardless

"kingsley" <kingsley@maddogsbreakfast.com.au> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.15.22.04.55.277748@maddogsbreakfast.com.au...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:47:57 +1000, Comfort Gusset wrote:
>
> > Seriously, spend a little more and get a Road and MTN bike. The thief
has
> > given you the perfect opportunity.
>
> I don't get the whole "master of none" anti hybrid arguments.
>
> Around here (rural-urban fringe) you get everything from fresh hotmix
> to fairly dusty dirt roads. Which bike should I take for my ride - the
> roadie that gets me to the backroads, or the MTB that performs
> (supposedly) better once I get to the dirt?
>
> The ride position (more upright) argument is a complete wed herring,
> since damn-near all mass produced bikes have oodles of flexibility with
> seat positioning and handlebar height. You can ride sitting up or as
> aerodynamic as you choose.
>
> And where does the Road | Hybrid | Mountain bike distinction
> start and end... What about something like Trek's 1200 "road bike
> with flat bars" Is that a hybrid? Is it a roadie? What about touring
> bikes like Cannondale's T2000 - it has the drop-bars, yet that longer
> chainstay, does the chainstay make it hybrid and no good?
>
> Of course one of the traditional MTB Vs Road distinctions was the sloping
> top-tube. How many bikes in this years TdF _don't_ have this. Are all
> 700C wheeled bikes with a sloping top tube hybrid bikes?, what if they
> have a triple chainring? Flat bars? Are ridden on mountain trails?
>
> Just because a bike is particularly specialised for either riding on road,
> or riding on mountain trails doesn't make it good or bad. A bike is
> perfect when the _rider_ finds it suitable for the intended purpose.
>
> -kt
>
> PS> sorry if this sounded like a rant, although I guess it is a bit.
>
> --
> Kingsley Turner,
> (mailto: kingsley@maddogsbreakfast.com.au)
> http://MadDogsBreakfast.com/ABFAQ - news:aus.bicycle Frequenly Asked
Questions
>

Tamyka Bell

Claude wrote:
>
> Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and hence
> looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and can get a new one
> for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its attractive because of the LX/XT
> componentry, albeit a little heavy. Does anyone have any views on other
> options or places in Melbourne to buy (including used)?
> Thanks
> Claude

Having not looked at hybrids I don't know their RRP but $999 seems
pretty expensive, doesn't it?

As for recommendations, I suppose it depends on what you want to use it
for. I was happy with my first bike until I tried a new one, you know?
If you pay cash, you could get a road bike for that price, and it won't
be as heavy. I bought a learsport 8000 for $1320 including freight to
BrisVegas, their model with tiagra components is $1099 rrp so they'd
bring it down. I love this bike, it's my commute and training bike, it's
not my race bike.

But if you carry a heavy backpack and ride for more than about half an
hour I wouldn't recommend a roadie for the commute unless you want to
develop nice callouses on your bum, and a hybrid is probably a better
choice, particularly if you're off the main roads, possibly worse
surfaces and/or don't mind the extra weight anyway. Where I used to
commute, buses would regularly pass with about 2 cm clearance. I was
fond of jumping the kerb to save my life and the MTB made the landings a
bit more cushy.

I know a lot of people hold the view that, considering a hybrid and a
mtb at the same rrp, the mtb generally has a better frame. I have no
idea about that, and to be honest I don't see why that would be true. I
only had a short commute so I left the off-road tyres on my mtb but I
know a lot of people who use slicks - which basically converts your
bike.

I forgot your question so I don't know if I answered it.

Tamyka

HUMBUG

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:04:36 +1000, DRS <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> Wrote :
>
> He said he was happy with his hybrid, you arrogant fool.

Seeing as you NEVER seem to have anything but insults...plonk...

>

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just us

I have a Diamond Back Topanga - bought it several years ago and love it. I
learnt to ride again on it - am 46 Female, not into MTB riding at all - eeek
to gravel rash and pain! But that bike got me back on the road and loving a
ride again after about 30 yrs off a bike!
We have just done a 850kms ride on a tandem, and a lot of people had Hybrid
bikes.. it started me thinking that I too would like a Hybrid bike. I dont
want to race, my shoulders are stuffed so I dont want to be leaning too far
forward - my old Diamond back's gearing seems all wrong for long trips on
the road so I was considering updating to a Hybrid after a lot of folks on
this ride sang their praises!
I too have forgotten the question, but hey - I think I will be going out and
buying a Hybrid.
kathy.

DRS

"HUMBUG" <humbug@bit.bucket> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:04:36 +1000, DRS <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au>
> Wrote :
>>
>> He said he was happy with his hybrid, you arrogant fool.
>
> Seeing as you NEVER seem to have anything but insults...plonk...

Oh, good, another moron gone.

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DRS

"Tamyka Bell" <tbell@hms.uq.edu.au> wrote in message
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> Claude wrote:
>>
>> Had my Shogun Metro LX stolen from the garage on Monday night and
>> hence looking for a new bike. I was happy with the Metro LX and can
>> get a new one for $999 at Melbourne Bike Centre - its attractive
>> because of the LX/XT componentry, albeit a little heavy. Does
>> anyone have any views on other options or places in Melbourne to buy
>> (including used)?
>
> Having not looked at hybrids I don't know their RRP but $999 seems
> pretty expensive, doesn't it?

No, not for that level of equipment. Deore LX is very nice. I have the
Deore version of that bike and I love it. All he need do is put some
clip-on aerobars on for a decent alternative riding position, as I did, and
he's got an excellent all-rounder.

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kingsley

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:40:36 +0000, Yuri Budilov wrote:

> In my research on various bicycle types I have found that the problem with
> all so called hybrid designs is that they are not driven by competitive
> cycling sport as much as say pure MTB and pure road/racing bicycles are.

But the whole groupset is basically pulled straight from MTB.

That leaves the frame & wheels, I can believe that there isn't much
"race technology" in the frame, but if we're really looking for this,
do you really get anything approaching recent technology in a bike
under $2-2.5k ? 700C wheels aren't non-existant in racing, but perhaps
I'd have to admit that the wider wheels used in most hybrids may
only see racing in something like a European cycle-cross event.

> I also found that hybrid bicycles often cost more than more or less
> equivalent MTB bikes. This all is probably due to low volumes they sell to
> re-coup their investment. Not sure. And often, but not always, hybrids are
> as heavy or heavier than MTB too. Check out Trek MTB versus Trek hybrid
> prices and specs, on the web as example.

Hmmm, I'll have to check this out.
It's a valid point.

cheers,
-kt

::dom::

I had a Specialized Sirrus Sport which I thought was great. Light, fast, good group, suspension seat post, great saddle, fantastic handle bar grips, reasonable price.