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What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend a
lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the nostril and
blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper respiratory
tract?
Nasal conchii (plural of 'conch' I hope) condition air on inspiration by
filtering and humidification. As respiration rate rises so does the
'wetness' of the conchii. Try some high altitude (as in zero humidity and
potential damage to mouth breathers) mountaineering and watch your water use
go waaay up.
"matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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| What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
| road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend
a
| lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the nostril
and
| blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper
respiratory
| tract?
|
|
On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:41:18 +0200, "matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
>What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
>road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend a
>lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the nostril and
>blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper respiratory
>tract?
My olfactory is very productive, too.
When cycling, we breathe a lot. This includes not just air, but also
various dust and crud in the air. Even if you haven't got any hint
of allergy, just breathing miscellaneous debris will cause your body
to produce mucus to trap and remove the crud.
Allergies that aren't strong enough to be noticeable under normal
breathing would come to the forefront while riding, I'm sure; and
where I am, it is certainly allergy season. The air is so thick with
pollen that anything white turns yellow in a day. My poor pickup
truck really needs to get washed...well, it's raining hard today.
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"matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
> road riding?
I firmly believe that this is a system designed to prevent respiratory
illness. Germs that are caught in the sticky mucus of your nose are then
carried out of the body. Your chance of getting a respiratory infection is
much lower.
Commuters are particularly fortunate in terms of the timing of their rides
and the opportunities twice a day to clear out the system. If you are
exposed to anything while at work, you blow it out on your way home. Lying
in bed, it would seem more likely nasty somethings would settle in -- but
you blow them all out on the way to work.
This winter, I injured my back, and didn't ride my bike for five days.
Shortly thereafter, I caught a cold -- the only one I got all season.
It also demonstrates to me the importance of blowing out the mucus as
opposed to snorfling it up. I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then
gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems rather
unsanitary.
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
>using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then
>gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems rather
>unsanitary.
The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't seem any more
sanitary; one can wash one's hands and face at the next available
stop with the seal-the-nostril method.
However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-out, producing
way too much volume for either of those methods to work well. A
kerchief would become quickly unusable, not to mention difficult to
carry. Seal-the-nostril gets _very_ messy with large quantities, and
really very gross with a mustache (not a problem for you, Claire).
A half a box of Kleenexes can clear out my nose for a few minutes,
at that point. Seal-the-nostril (somewhere with some privacy) and a
few wet-naps is one on-the-road method that is [barely] sufficient.
Stupid high-capacity nose.
I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or cold
medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I think my nose will
act up.
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"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>Commuters are particularly fortunate in terms of the timing of their rides
>and the opportunities twice a day to clear out the system. If you are
>exposed to anything while at work, you blow it out on your way home. Lying
>in bed, it would seem more likely nasty somethings would settle in -- but
>you blow them all out on the way to work.
I am subject to some pretty nasty sinus issues, and on the mornings I
wake up with the start of a sinus headache I know how it's going to
end up. If I have a morning bike ride scheduled, it'll get better as
I blow a HUGE amount of phlegm onto the road. If I don't have time
for a ride, the headache will get progressively worse during the day.
>It also demonstrates to me the importance of blowing out the mucus as
>opposed to snorfling it up. I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
>using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then
>gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems rather
>unsanitary.
I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee method. Place
right index finger on left side of nose, press inward while sliding
finger down toward nostril. Said finger collects contents of nose
which can then be strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward
something deserving a little "nose lube".
It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward. Social
niceties demand it.
Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> >I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
> >using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief
then
> >gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems rather
> >unsanitary.
>
> The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't seem any more
> sanitary;
You don't think shooting all your germy mucus on to the street is
unsanitary? I'm concentrating mucus in a single, controlled location for
laundering. You're spreading it far and wide.
> However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-out, producing
> way too much volume for either of those methods to work well. A
> kerchief would become quickly unusable, not to mention difficult to
> carry.
The kerchief is tied around my neck, and is air-dried as I ride. My husband
tucks a corner of his into the waistband of his bike shorts, which bears
greater risk of loss. With either method, in heavy rain, it does get quite
soggy.
> Seal-the-nostril gets _very_ messy with large quantities, and
> really very gross with a mustache (not a problem for you, Claire).
If you feel seal-the-nostril is the only way to handle the river of snot you
produce, then I suggest you still wear the kerchief. You can use it to do
the delicate mustache wiping that follows the main evacuation on the to
pavement. Otherwise, you'll be tempted to use that terry strip on your
gloves. Then your gloves get even ewweyer faster.
> I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or cold
> medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I think my nose will
> act up.
If you have allergies, that's one thing. But I would not take cold medicine
to prevent mucus production simply because of weather conditions.
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In article <c971ft$no8$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr>,
"matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
> road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend a
> lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the nostril and
> blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper respiratory
> tract?
In my own experience, the effect occurs mainly during the
first 15 minutes of riding. So I think it might have to do
with acclimatizing -- going from an indoor environment to the
outdoors. In warmer weather it doesn't happen as much to me.
I've come to look forward to that early-in-the-ride nose blow
because breathing feels so good after that.
If your symptoms are more persistent than that it may be, as
has been suggested, some sort of allergic reaction. Or maybe
your lungs are bigger than mine so it takes longer to clear
all the stale, indoor "house" air out of them.
I wouldn't be surprised if forced-air heating exacerbates
the effect.
cheers,
Tom
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:19:40 -0700, Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com>
wrote:
>I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee method. Place
>right index finger on left side of nose, press inward while sliding
>finger down toward nostril. Said finger collects contents of nose
>which can then be strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward
>something deserving a little "nose lube".
Good idea... I often do this with a kleenex placed prophylactically
between my hand and my nose. However, that reduces one's ability to
fling the nose lube.
>It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward. Social
>niceties demand it.
Eww, crusty shorts. Wipe finger on nearby trees, grass, or curb.
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In article <isleb0du0drrj91t0cl9gsro455c1hghbv@4ax.com>,
Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com> writes:
> I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee method. Place
> right index finger on left side of nose, press inward while sliding
> finger down toward nostril. Said finger collects contents of nose
> which can then be strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward
> something deserving a little "nose lube".
>
> It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward. Social
> niceties demand it.
I'm hesitant to use such demonstrative methods
when I'm about to go into the supermarket to do
some grocery shopping. In fact, there seems to
be no way to discretely blow one's nose anywhere
near a supermarket; there's always an audience.
One time I thought I found a private little spot
in the shipping bay, but there was a bunch of
store employees on their lunch break, sitting on
the loading platform, gawking at me.
Anyway, that's one of the unspoken logistical
problems of utility cycling.
cheers,
Tom
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Rick Onanian wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:19:40 -0700, Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com>
> wrote:
>> I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee method.
>> Place right index finger on left side of nose, press inward while
>> sliding finger down toward nostril. Said finger collects contents
>> of nose which can then be strategically aimed as a ballistic payload
>> toward something deserving a little "nose lube".
>
> Good idea... I often do this with a kleenex placed prophylactically
> between my hand and my nose. However, that reduces one's ability to
> fling the nose lube.
>
>> It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward. Social
>> niceties demand it.
>
> Eww, crusty shorts. Wipe finger on nearby trees, grass, or curb.
OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.
Freaks.
Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom forced to resort to nose
debris expellation (dry climate contributes perhaps?)" S.
Claire Petersky wrote:
:: "Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
:: news:nvjeb0heog7cliakodase6m1gq8nv63vkq@4ax.com...
::: On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
::: <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
:::: I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
:::: using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The
:::: kerchief then gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while
:::: handy, seems rather unsanitary.
:::
::: The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't seem any more
::: sanitary;
::
:: You don't think shooting all your germy mucus on to the street is
:: unsanitary?
How could it be? It's not like anyone is going to come in contact with it
since the volume is so small compared to where it ends up.......it gets
spread out and absorbed...
:: I'm concentrating mucus in a single, controlled location
:: for laundering. You're spreading it far and wide.
Having it in a controlled location makes it more unsanitary to anyone who
comes in contact with it, imo.
::
::: However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-out, producing
::: way too much volume for either of those methods to work well. A
::: kerchief would become quickly unusable, not to mention difficult to
::: carry.
::
:: The kerchief is tied around my neck, and is air-dried as I ride. My
:: husband tucks a corner of his into the waistband of his bike shorts,
:: which bears greater risk of loss. With either method, in heavy rain,
:: it does get quite soggy.
::
::: Seal-the-nostril gets _very_ messy with large quantities, and
::: really very gross with a mustache (not a problem for you, Claire).
::
:: If you feel seal-the-nostril is the only way to handle the river of
:: snot you produce, then I suggest you still wear the kerchief. You
:: can use it to do the delicate mustache wiping that follows the main
:: evacuation on the to pavement. Otherwise, you'll be tempted to use
:: that terry strip on your gloves. Then your gloves get even ewweyer
:: faster.
::
::: I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or cold
::: medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I think my nose will
::: act up.
::
:: If you have allergies, that's one thing. But I would not take cold
:: medicine to prevent mucus production simply because of weather
:: conditions.
I'm not sure he indicated using medicine because of weather conditions.
On Fri, 28 May 2004 15:45:40 GMT, "S o r n i"
<sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote:
>OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.
>
>Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom forced to resort to nose
>debris expellation (dry climate contributes perhaps?)" S.
Routing that through your mouth isn't nasty?
I've done it a couple times, and it certainly is gross to me.
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Claire Petersky wrote:
> :: "Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
> :: news:nvjeb0heog7cliakodase6m1gq8nv63vkq@4ax.com...
> ::: On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> ::: <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> :::: I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only
> :::: using the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The
> :::: kerchief then gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while
> :::: handy, seems rather unsanitary.
Maybe I'm a geek, but i carry some kleenex in my pocket, usually one of
those little packages. Also, sometimes in cooler weather, I carry some
bunched up in my sleeve, just at the wrist. My nose tends to run in cooler
weather, now with the pollen it happens as well. If I get a chance to stop
at a light, I take out the kleenex and give a good HONK! Ahhh. Also, one
reason I carry Kleenex is for potty stops. T-paper isn't always available at
public toilets along the route.
Rick Onanian wrote:
:: On Fri, 28 May 2004 15:45:40 GMT, "S o r n i"
:: <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote:
::: OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.
:::
::: Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom forced to
::: resort to nose debris expellation (dry climate contributes
::: perhaps?)" S.
::
:: Routing that through your mouth isn't nasty?
::
:: I've done it a couple times, and it certainly is gross to me.
Nasty and gross are relative terms. The thought of your snot (or anyone's)
anywhere near me or within earshot would certainly be gross and nasty.... :)
In article <2hp92uFfp54kU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nasty and gross are relative terms. The thought of your snot (or anyone's)
> anywhere near me or within earshot would certainly be gross and nasty.... :)
BTW, the correct term for the one-finger/one-nostril voiding procedure
is "farmer blow".
back when i was a teener in Munich on my English Racer (a raliegh w/ the
dynohub), i ... it's too gross. i had a cold. i can't. But i got some
poor guy rillly bad. Ever get splashed by passing bus? ya, it was
kinda like that. eeeeew! it was the '70's.
..max
looks both ways now.
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>"S o r n i" sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com
wrote:
>OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.
"Farmer blows" and "snot rockets" are a reason to not shake anyone's hand after
a hard group ride.
Regards,
Bob Hunt
Max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
> BTW, the correct term for the one-finger/one-nostril voiding procedure
> is "farmer blow".
yea, just for god's sake if you're gonna do that clear your baffles. i have
a vivid memory of coming up behind a guy on portland ave in minneapolis one
early spring morning. as i came up on his wheel i eased off a bit to check
the traffic to pass and while i looking to the rear i was hit all across the
front of my jersey with snot blast.
i imagine he used your technique (to the rightside).
there's not much to say to someone after that. i passed him pretty quickly
afterwards, shot him a variation of "the look" i usually save for evil
accursed car drivers and dusted him (ho not in buffy fashion).
> back when i was a teener in Munich on my English Racer (a raliegh w/ the
> dynohub), i ... it's too gross. i had a cold. i can't. But i got some
> poor guy rillly bad. Ever get splashed by passing bus? ya, it was
> kinda like that. eeeeew! it was the '70's.
yea. spend any time in minneapolis?
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reuteler@visi.com
In article <40b77b1d$0$8705$a18e6209@newsreader.visi.com>,
David Reuteler <reuteler@visi.com> wrote:
> [...]clear your baffles.
(ss)?
..max
ssn-575
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> What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus, in my case, when
> road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend
a
> lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the nostril
and
> blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper
respiratory
> tract?
I found that drinking milk in the morning before a ride contributed greatly
to excess mucus during a ride. When I went on the Atkins diet, the reduction
in mucus production was startling.
Pat in TX
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