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bentupright
  
Interesting... a guy who moved in beside me has a partly rusted road bike frame (I figure about 15 years old), set up with 26X1.5 wheels/tires, the old 'lever' shifters, LUGGED FRAME, and he's probably better set up for loaded touring than my (somewhat oversized) Trek 1000. If I like the ride on HIS bike better, I might ask him to 'swap' with me, have the frame stripped and repainted, put some fenders on it, and call it MY ultimate touring bike! Gee, there are still frames around that allow my ENTIRE foot to touch the ground when I dismount!:eek:

Sure beats trying to find the same thing made THESE days! If STEEL isn't considered sacreligious, or LUGGED frames, then 26 inch set up for long haul touring surely is! This is what I have been envisioning:

1- steel frame (NO oversized tubes!)
2- 26 inch road geometry (NOT a mountain bike frame... I want the panniers/racks lower to the ground than a 700c makes for, AND the more readily avaliable 26 inch, "wider is better" tires, that should also allow for fenders as well)
3- as many bottle mounts as practicable
4- the mounts for brazed-on levers (on the down tube)
5- 26 inch wheels with as many spokes as possible (probably ones typically set up for tandem bikes)
6- three rings in front, eight speeds in the back (or SOMETHING close to it)
7- frame can be fitted with the best CHROMOLOY rack system still available (what few are still available by special order, NEVER found at a TYPICAL LBS!)
8- somewhere around the $1,500 price range, once it's all done
9- LUGGED frame WOULD be nice (if it would be possible to do with qualifier #10)
10- the bike isn't on a three month-plus waiting list to order

[tell me the truth... is this SO impossible that you are laughing at me?:D ]

daveornee
  
Interesting... a guy who moved in beside me has a partly rusted road bike frame (I figure about 15 years old), set up with 26X1.5 wheels/tires, the old 'lever' shifters, LUGGED FRAME, and he's probably better set up for loaded touring than my (somewhat oversized) Trek 1000. If I like the ride on HIS bike better, I might ask him to 'swap' with me, have the frame stripped and repainted, put some fenders on it, and call it MY ultimate touring bike! Gee, there are still frames around that allow my ENTIRE foot to touch the ground when I dismount!:eek:

Sure beats trying to find the same thing made THESE days! If STEEL isn't considered sacreligious, or LUGGED frames, then 26 inch set up for long haul touring surely is! This is what I have been envisioning:

1- steel frame (NO oversized tubes!)
2- 26 inch road geometry (NOT a mountain bike frame... I want the panniers/racks lower to the ground than a 700c makes for, AND the more readily avaliable 26 inch, "wider is better" tires, that should also allow for fenders as well)
3- as many bottle mounts as practicable
4- the mounts for brazed-on levers (on the down tube)
5- 26 inch wheels with as many spokes as possible (probably ones typically set up for tandem bikes)
6- three rings in front, eight speeds in the back (or SOMETHING close to it)
7- frame can be fitted with the best CHROMOLOY rack system still available (what few are still available by special order, NEVER found at a TYPICAL LBS!)
8- somewhere around the $1,500 price range, once it's all done
9- LUGGED frame WOULD be nice (if it would be possible to do with qualifier #10)
10- the bike isn't on a three month-plus waiting list to order

[tell me the truth... is this SO impossible that you are laughing at me?:D ]

I agree with your points.... but I am not sure if the $ target and the lugged frame are realities.
I ride a 26" wheeled touring bicycle. Mine meets most of your criteria (however fat tubes, higher price, and not lugged).
Velocity Synergy rims have an Offset rear when combined with 135 mm OLD hub makes for a very durable wheel. (Bontrager and Ritchey also make offset rear rims, but...)
Tubus, Bruce Gordon, ??? Beckman racks.
Tubus cargo for rear and Tara front are stock items in a few shops that cater to serious touring riders.


Have you read Bruce Gordons rants on touring bicycles?
Have you looked at the BLT?

bikeguy2004
  
Of course touring bikes are sill made today. And I’m also sure that they are better that that 15 year old rusty bike you have been looking at.



Here is a web site that should help you find the bike you want.



http://www.adventurecycling.org/features/buyersguide2004.cfm (http://www.adventurecycling.org/features/buyersguide2004.cfm)



http://www.adventurecycling.org/features/buyersguide_bikes2004.cfm (http://www.adventurecycling.org/features/buyersguide_bikes2004.cfm)

cachehiker
  
I toyed with the idea of building one of these up for a while, but I eventually settled on a Soma Double-Cross.

http://www.surlybikes.com/longhaul.html

dhk
  
I toyed with the idea of building one of these up for a while, but I eventually settled on a Soma Double-Cross.

http://www.surlybikes.com/longhaul.html
One of the guys I ride with got a Surly Long-Haul Trucker this season. It's starting to grow on me, even the pea-soup green color. It's a lot of touring frame for the money.

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