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Learning from those who ride bents long before me and the dislike of horses for
'bents has stood me in good stead. Today when I was out on Mr N Frosty, a horse
& rider were coming down a hill I was going up. So I stopped, beckoned for the
rider to proceed and kept nattering to rider and horse as they came down. The
rider stopped alongside me (on opposite side of road) and thanked me for my
courtesy, saying that the horse she was on was a young horse and learning about
being on the road. She went on to say that talking to her and the horse was
exactly the right thing to do as it showed the horse I was not a threat and
that if all road users were as courteous as I was (head swells...), life would
be so much easier.

So thanks guys - the 'bent threads proved exceedingly useful today :-)

Cheers, helen s




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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
> Learning from those who ride bents long before me and the dislike of horses for
> 'bents has stood me in good stead. Today when I was out on Mr N Frosty, a horse
> & rider were coming down a hill I was going up. So I stopped, beckoned for the
> rider to proceed and kept nattering to rider and horse as they came down. The
> rider stopped alongside me (on opposite side of road) and thanked me for my
> courtesy, saying that the horse she was on was a young horse and learning about
> being on the road. She went on to say that talking to her and the horse was
> exactly the right thing to do as it showed the horse I was not a threat and
> that if all road users were as courteous as I was (head swells...), life would
> be so much easier.
>
> So thanks guys - the 'bent threads proved exceedingly useful today :-)
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
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Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.
Cheers
Graham
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"Graham Bowers (Zen)" <graham@nospam.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
> and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
> self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
the beaten track to cede ROW.
But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.

Pete

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:47:44 +0000, Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:

> Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
> and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to self
> and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

Do you mean the horse rider dismounting or the cyclist? I've known horse
riders turn so the horse couldn't see the road, and I have also stopped
and waited for a horse to calm down. Dismounting and getting onto the
verge is something I need to do a couple of times a year, when there's a
tractor or other agricultural machine that is taking up more than the
width of the road. Better to get off than be flailed by a combine I
reckon.


Mike

>Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
>the beaten track to cede ROW.

The rider today offered to stop for me, but I indicated for her to proceed & I
stopped. A little bit of courtesy doesn't hurt and costs nothing. Turns out
that she appreicated it as the horse was a young horse she is training. I must
have helped, as when I started off again, the horse wanted to follow me - seems
I made a friend ;-)

>But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
>many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
>methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.

Indeed. It was something the rider & I passed comment on today - non-motorised
road users helping each other.

Cheers, helen s


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Mike Causer wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:47:44 +0000, Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:
>
>
>>Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
>>and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to self
>>and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.
>
>
> Do you mean the horse rider dismounting or the cyclist?
I meant the horse rider dismounting, but I see I wasn't very clear.
I've known horse
> riders turn so the horse couldn't see the road, and I have also stopped
> and waited for a horse to calm down.
I also always stop and don't mind at all, life's too short anyway
without risking upsetting a ton of bone and muscle with an ounce of
brain :-)). I've always found the horse riders to be appreciative too.
Just wondered what other experiences were out there.
Dismounting and getting onto the
> verge is something I need to do a couple of times a year, when there's a
> tractor or other agricultural machine that is taking up more than the
> width of the road. Better to get off than be flailed by a combine I
> reckon.
>
>
> Mike

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:

>>Yes, I have on occasion, they haven't dismounted but have pulled well off
>>the beaten track to cede ROW.
>
>
> The rider today offered to stop for me, but I indicated for her to proceed & I
> stopped. A little bit of courtesy doesn't hurt and costs nothing.
Agreed, and is a pleasure to give. As I said, I have no issue, just
curious about other experiences.
Turns out
> that she appreicated it as the horse was a young horse she is training. I must
> have helped, as when I started off again, the horse wanted to follow me - seems
> I made a friend ;-)
>
>
>>But I don't mind giving way anyway, they are another minority group that
>>many motorists would like to see off the road, (something we have in common
>>methinks) whereas to me they're part of the rural scene I enjoy.
>
>
> Indeed. It was something the rider & I passed comment on today - non-motorised
> road users helping each other.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
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Oh well, more field research needed on my part. I suppose I should
impersonate a lady some of the time to determine if gender is a factor
in exchanges that take place.
Cheers
Graham

Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:
> ...I suppose I should
> impersonate a lady some of the time to determine if gender is a
factor
> in exchanges that take place.

why not just impersonate one for the simple pleasure it affords one
like the rest of us?

best wishes
jane (on a w/e :)

Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:
>>
>Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
>and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
>self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

You can be pretty sure your bike won't panic and take off on its own
while you are dismounted, the horse rider can't be so sure and has
more control if they stay mounted.

Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:

> Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
> and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
> self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.

I've had horse riders ride up a farm track off the road before to take
their skittery steed away from the "perceived threat" of me approaching
on my PDQ recumbent, so at least round here it's not all one sided.

--
Colin

This reminded me of an incident earlier this summer when I was cycling along
a country lane in deepest Norfolk minding my own business. Up ahead I
noticed a slightly agitated horse being pulled along seemingly against its
will. I slowed down and followed at a safe distance. Things eventually
calmed down and I caught up with the horse party whereupon I heard the
surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like llamas!
This is not something you hear every day, and looking round a couple of
llamas were calmly peering at us over the fence no doubt wondering what the
fuss was about.

Happy New Year
Paul

"Colin" <usenet@spiralFOOTpathways.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:
>
>> Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider "yielding"
>> and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding the risk to
>> self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one sided to me.
>
> I've had horse riders ride up a farm track off the road before to take
> their skittery steed away from the "perceived threat" of me approaching on
> my PDQ recumbent, so at least round here it's not all one sided.
>
> --
> Colin

> why not just impersonate one for the simple pleasure it affords one
> like the rest of us?
>
> best wishes
> jane (on a w/e :)
>
I've taken up the bagpipes to legitimise my wearing of a skirt :-)

Mind you I wasn't wearing my skirt when I came across a string of skittish
race horses out by Middleham. Now there's a category of road user that
needs lots of calm and soothing talk. The lead rider was very good with me
and the horses :-)

t'other Vernon
in Leeds

> Things eventually
> calmed down and I caught up with the horse party whereupon I heard the
> surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like
llamas!
> This is not something you hear every day, and looking round a couple of
> llamas were calmly peering at us over the fence no doubt wondering what
the
> fuss was about.

I'm not surprised at all. I was startled by some llamas near Guisely just
outside Leeds. They're not the sort of thing one expects to see when one is
strolling along a foot path minding one's own business and admiring the
scenery. Gave me quite a shock and nearly put me off my beer. Thankfully I
made a near instant recovery.

t'other Vernon
in Leeds

Graham Bowers (Zen) wrote:
> Just curious if anybody in here has ever experienced a rider
> "yielding" and dismounting? I haven't. I have no issue with avoiding
> the risk to self and rider by dismounting, but it seems a bit one
> sided to me. Cheers

From my recollection of riding in my distant youth, you're in a lot more
control on the buggers back than if you're just hanging off the reins at the
head end.

You're far more able to project calm to the animal, also getting off is
tricky if he's acting nervy.

--
Andy Morris

AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK


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>I heard the
>surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like llamas!

Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.

Cheers, helen s


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"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <wafflycathcs@aol.compomcom> wrote in
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> >I heard the
> >surprising explanation for the bother was that the horse didn't like
llamas!
>
> Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
> garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.
>
There used to be a flamingo that paddles in a cooling pond in the Teeside
industrial estate - folk used to use it as a landmark - 'turn right by the
Flamingo'. When it happened to me I was looking for a night club or pub to
navigate by and enjoyed one of those special jaw dropping moments.

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:

> Well in Wendling, one of the inhabitants has had ostriches in his front
> garden... No, not me, three cats are quite sufficient.

It would lead to trouble. Waffles would by trying to drag the ostriches
in through the cat flap.

--
Dave...

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

The correct way to pass a horse is to stand on your pedals and bob up
and down a little. It then thinks you are also a horse-rider.
--
Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot',
you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
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Richard Bates wrote:
> The correct way to pass a horse is to stand on your pedals and bob up
> and down a little. It then thinks you are also a horse-rider.

There's a challenge for you next time you're out on Mr Frosty and you
meet a horse, Helen ;-)

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

>
>There's a challenge for you next time you're out on Mr Frosty and you
>meet a horse, Helen ;-)

Neigh lad, it would be an impossibility not a challenge!

Cheers, helen s


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