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Phil Cave
  
Hi all,

I have been a lurker for a few days now, since the time that I unsubscribed from uk.rec.motorcycles.

Three years ago I went through a nasty divorce, increased my weight to over 20 stone, collected a
wallet full of credit cards and bought a 180 mph motorcycle.

I assumed that the motorcycle would be my insurance against ever having to pay for the credit cards.
Happily I was wrong :o)

Could somebody give me £20k? No, I thought not..... But seriously....

about 18 months ago I decided that enough was enough. I stopped smoking 60 fags a day and have not
touched one since may 5th last year. I no longer drink 2 bottles of wine and half bottle of spirits
a day, and this is the best bit, I have lost 5 stone.

There is another better bit. I am getting married to a wonderful lady in 30 days :o)

Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to the gym, however this is
boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a mountain bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a
time on this I find this mind numbing.

I am now going to purchase a road bike in the hope that I can get further afield with a little less
effort, but I am loath to continue doing this on my lonesome.

Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?

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Regards, Phil Cave

Smile Maker, Enthusiast and Pure Genius BOTAFOT #64

Sandy Morton
  
In article <b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Phil Cave <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?

Don't know but I like your sig.

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Alex Graham
  
Phil Cave wrote:

> Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?

There are bound to be. Several clubs ride in the Chilterns - it is a very popular area. I'm
afraid I cant remember any of their names! Theres probably a list of clubs somewhere. Try your
local CTC section (London West?) you could join that or go on a run with them and talk to people
about local clubs.

Not much help I know!

:-)

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Simon Proven
  
Phil Cave wrote:
> Hi all,

> Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?

http://www.southbuckscycling.org.uk/rides.html

Seems there's an Aylesbury section of the CTC.

Simon

Wafflycathcsdir
  
> I stopped smoking 60 fags a day and have not touched one since may 5th last year. I no longer
> drink 2 bottles of wine and half bottle of spirits a day, and this is the best bit, I have lost
> 5 stone.

Well done you - good going.

>There is another better bit. I am getting married to a wonderful lady in 30 days :o)

Congratulations :)

>Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?

Give the CTC a call on 0870 873 0060 and ask about groups local to you. Joining the CTC is cheap &
you get insurance cover too.

Also see British Cycling - Aylesbury is in... hmm... Central region. For clubs see
http://www.bcf.uk.com/clubsasp/central.asp

For time trial clubs see http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/pages/clublinks.html

Hope this helps.

Cheers, helen s

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Simon Mason
  
"Phil Cave" <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to the gym, however this is
> boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a mountain bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a
> time on this I find this mind numbing.

Try taking a walkman, MD or MP3 player with you. If you were a biker then you will be able to cope
in traffic with a slightly reduced level of hearing. When I had a bike, with the helmet on and a
short pipe, I couldn't hear anything anyway. I find I can clock up hours of cycling with a varied
selection of stuff to listen too and not get bored.

At the moment I'm listening to some old Talk Radio shows that last over 4 hours downloaded from
www.clarkey.net. The brilliant thing is that the ride and the soundtrack become linked together, so
that when I listen to the same show again at night in bed, I get the ride visually replayed in my
head, even with some smells. Very relaxing, especially if the ride was a summer one to the coast
and you listen again in midwinter.

Simon

Dave
  
"Phil Cave" <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi all,
Hi Phil ;-)

<snip>

> Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to the gym, however this is
> boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a mountain bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a
> time on this I find this mind numbing.
>
Don't scrap the MTB. If you can, find somewhere with a bit of downhill singletrack. It's a good
allover workout, more so than road riding and the adrenalin rushes ensure yo mind don't go numb !! I
do both and enjoy both immensely

> I am now going to purchase a road bike in the hope that I can get further afield with a little
> less effort, but I am loath to continue doing this on my lonesome.
>
> Are there any clubs local to Aylesbury that would be suitable for an unfit fat bloke like me?
>
>
> --
> Regards, Phil Cave
>
> Smile Maker, Enthusiast and Pure Genius BOTAFOT #64
>
>

Cheers, Dave...

Phil Cave
  
Thanks for all the advice. I'll take most of it, especially the listening to music whilst cycling.

I'm off to buy an MP3 player this weekend, and a new road bike.

I think i'll stick the MTB in the back of the Volvo and take it to Epping forest for some fun.

Thanks again.

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Regards, Phil Cave

Smile Maker, Enthusiast and Pure Genius BOTAFOT #64

Jeremy Parker
  
Clubs do vary, from quite slow to practice-for-racers. Try asking at a bike shop. They probably know
what clubs are around, and their characteristics. Bigger clubs will likely have different kinds of
rides, and a grading system.

Rides tend to be broken up by stops for elevenses/lunch/tea etc. which gives you time to recover
between sections. Although you might do quite a long distance overall, there might well be no
section longer than 15 miles. In between sections, apart from eating/drinking, you will be sitting
round socializing, and have a chance to ask questions, although don't expect everybody to agree on
what the correct answer is.

good luck

Jeremy Parker

Dave Larrington
  
Phil Cave wrote:

> I think i'll stick the MTB in the back of the Volvo and take it to Epping forest for some fun.

I don't know if it's still possible, but way back in the mists of pre-history, they used to do MTB
events near Wendover, which might be a bit more convenient...

Dave Larrington - http://legslarry.crosswinds.net/
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Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
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Wideboythin
  
> I'm off to buy an MP3 player this weekend, and a new road bike.
I'd recommend the higher-end sony net walkmans; very light, long (internal rechargeable) battery
life, and super slick. :)

Let us know what happens with the road bike purchase!

> I think i'll stick the MTB in the back of the Volvo and take it to Epping forest for some fun.

Oh, such fond memories of belting around Epping Forest (having cycled across London to get
there...), climbing the hill to High Beech and letting rip on the way down. Makes me feel guilty the
poor old Kona MTB is now used for supermarket trips in the flat lands of Cambridgeshire.

Have fun!

WBT

Hedgehog & Mark
  
"Phil Cave" <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi all,
>
> I have been a lurker for a few days now, since the time that I
unsubscribed
> from uk.rec.motorcycles.
>
> about 18 months ago I decided that enough was enough. I stopped smoking 60 fags a day and have not
> touched one since may 5th last year. I no longer drink 2 bottles of wine and half bottle of
> spirits a day, and this is the best bit, I have lost 5 stone.

Well done Phil.....you've beaten a whole bunch of demons there!
>
> There is another better bit. I am getting married to a wonderful lady in
30
> days :o)

Even more congratulations.....can you get her to cycle with you?

> Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to the gym, however this is
> boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a mountain bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a
> time on this I find this mind numbing.

hmmm, agree with you there....I use an MP3 player (low volume, only in one ear). I suppose this does
reduce my awareness of traffic, but acceptably I think given I cycle on quiet roads

try working harder....the more excruiating the pain, the less I think about how boring it is!! Or
maybe cycle with a goal in mind (like to a picnic site for lunch, or to a zoo - how far is Woburn
from you....cycling through the lion pen should be quite amusing!!)

Probably not much help....but hope you and the new Mrs Phil are extraordinarily happy
together....congrats once again on your achievements in the last 18 months.

Smudger
  
"Simon Mason" <MasonS@BP.com> wrote in message
news:8862a1cc.0305072349.4202b040@posting.google.com...
> "Phil Cave" <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
> > Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to
the
> > gym, however this is boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a
mountain
> > bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a time on this I find this
mind
> > numbing.
>
> Try taking a walkman, MD or MP3 player with you. If you were a biker then you will be able to
> cope in traffic with a slightly reduced level of hearing. When I had a bike, with the helmet on
> and a short pipe, I couldn't hear anything anyway. I find I can clock up hours of cycling with a
> varied selection of stuff to listen too and not get bored.
>
> At the moment I'm listening to some old Talk Radio shows that last over 4 hours downloaded from
> www.clarkey.net. The brilliant thing is that the ride and the soundtrack become linked together,
> so that when I listen to the same show again at night in bed, I get the ride visually replayed in
> my head, even with some smells. Very relaxing, especially if the ride was a summer one to the
> coast and you listen again in midwinter.
>
> Simon

Is smoking a pipe on a motorbike an offence?

Smudger
  
"Dave Larrington" <legs_larry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9dj9c$hq248$2@ID-120318.news.dfncis.de...
> Phil Cave wrote:
>
> > I think i'll stick the MTB in the back of the Volvo and take it to Epping forest for some fun.
>
> I don't know if it's still possible, but way back in the mists of pre-history, they used to do MTB
> events near Wendover, which might be a
bit
> more convenient...
>
> Dave Larrington - http://legslarry.crosswinds.net/
> ===========================================================
> Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
> http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
> ===========================================================
>
>

The Wendover Downhill Bash. Invented by Mr Geoff Apps I believe.

Msa
  
Simon Mason <MasonS@BP.com> wrote in message news:8862a1cc.0305072349.4202b040@posting.google.com...
> "Phil Cave" <phil@pscave.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<b9bsv6$1on$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
> > Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to
the
> > gym, however this is boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a
mountain
> > bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a time on this I find this
mind
> > numbing.
>
> Try taking a walkman, MD or MP3 player with you.

Personally would not recommend this but the choice is yours.

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Mark
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Msa
  
> Is smoking a pipe on a motorbike an offence?
>
>

Probably not but I wouldn't vouch for the efficiency of the ash tray.

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Eatmorepies
  
> Now that I am only 15st and 4Lb I don't feel too embarrassed to go to the gym, however this is
> boring. I sold the motor cycle and brought a mountain bike, but although I do about 15 miles at a
> time on this I find this mind numbing.
>
> I am now going to purchase a road bike in the hope that I can get further afield with a little
> less effort, but I am loath to continue doing this on my lonesome.

Pleased to see so much good stuff going on. But, mind numbing? I find ripping round the muck and
bullets off road stuff far more interesting than tarmac. I know it's horses for courses but do have
a go at some gnarly off road stuff. Sorry to say I can't give you any information about your area
but you must be able to access some decent off road going - experts in this group will advise.

30 days to the wedding. This will give you about another 60 days to get ready before the Bash. This
is a 4 day mountain bike event in Mid-Wales taking place in and around Llanwrtyd Wells over the
first weekend of August. Try it once and be hooked.

All the best for the big day.

John

Simon Mason
  
"MSA" <onyerbikemark@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >
> > Try taking a walkman, MD or MP3 player with you.
>
> Personally would not recommend this but the choice is yours.
>

If I didn't have a radio, I would not cycle at all, except to the shops and back, so the very small
safety risk, which is debatable, unless it's so loud you can't talk to anyone, is more than offset
by the health benefits of me covering c. 5000 miles per year. To me it's like doing hours of
aerobics with no music - boring and no motivation.
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Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W http://www.simonmason.karoo.net (http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/)

Blagger
  
>If I didn't have a radio, I would not cycle at all, except to the shops and back, so the very small
>safety risk, which is debatable, unless it's so loud you can't talk to anyone, is more than offset
>by the health benefits of me covering c. 5000 miles per year. To me it's like doing hours of
>aerobics with no music - boring and no motivation.

Don't you find that, after an hour or so, the rhythm of the ride and the landscape gliding past
stops one thinking too hard? That's why I love cycling on my own. No distractions, no one else
cycling too fast or too slow, just the countryside and the fresh air.

(Sounds idyllic. Think I'll get my bike out this afternoon..)

B.

Simon Mason
  
"blagger" <blag@blagger.com> wrote in message news:qb5nbvkgj7u7jvddsrhrq99uvpfq76fhve@4ax.com...
>
> >
> >If I didn't have a radio, I would not cycle at all, except to the shops
and
> >back, so the very small safety risk, which is debatable, unless it's so
loud
> >you can't talk to anyone, is more than offset by the health benefits of
me
> >covering c. 5000 miles per year. To me it's like doing hours of aerobics with no music - boring
> >and no motivation.
>
> Don't you find that, after an hour or so, the rhythm of the ride and the landscape gliding past
> stops one thinking too hard? That's why I love cycling on my own. No distractions, no one else
> cycling too fast or too slow, just the countryside and the fresh air.

Most of my cycling is commuting 24 miles along the same route , so the same landscape tends to pall
after a while.
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Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W http://www.simonmason.karoo.net (http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/)

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