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Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?
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gclark8
Triple, always a triple.. you can have a closer ratio rear casette with a triple.
lohsnest
Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?Go with a triple. There are no disadvantages in having a triple, in fact, the triple was invented for just such an environment. The only perceived disadvantage is you gain a few grams of weight, oh, and you might be called a wuss by some on this forum for having a granny ring. Pay no heed. There is nothing wrong with having a third ring and it really doesn't make you any less of a rider. Remember this, it's never about the bike or how much you spend on it, or how many rings you have... it's all about the rider!
dhk
Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?
All depends how low a gear you need to climb your best. If you often climb at speeds of 8 mph or less, and like to say seated most of the time on the long grades (like I do) then a triple is a good way to go. Great to have on long mountain century rides, even if you rarely need it on daily training or club runs.
You can run a 30 inner ring with a 12-23 or -25 cassette and have a good tight set of climbing gears, plus keep all the mid and top gears you're used to. A 100-150 gram weight penalty is well worth it to have the gearing you need on a long mountain ride.
As for as the "pro look", Team Navigators used triples for the big climb stage at the T d Georgia this spring. Lance got away with a 27 rear cog on his double, but he climbs just a bit faster than most of us.
All depends how low a gear you need to climb your best. If you often climb at speeds of 8 mph or less, and like to say seated most of the time on the long grades (like I do) then a triple is a good way to go. Great to have on long mountain century rides, even if you rarely need it on daily training or club runs.
You can run a 30 inner ring with a 12-23 or -25 cassette and have a good tight set of climbing gears, plus keep all the mid and top gears you're used to. A 100-150 gram weight penalty is well worth it to have the gearing you need on a long mountain ride.
As for as the "pro look", Team Navigators used triples for the big climb stage at the T d Georgia this spring. Lance got away with a 27 rear cog on his double, but he climbs just a bit faster than most of us.
strummer_fan
All depends how low a gear you need to climb your best. If you often climb at speeds of 8 mph or less, and like to say seated most of the time on the long grades (like I do) then a triple is a good way to go. Great to have on long mountain century rides, even if you rarely need it on daily training or club runs.
You can run a 30 inner ring with a 12-23 or -25 cassette and have a good tight set of climbing gears, plus keep all the mid and top gears you're used to. A 100-150 gram weight penalty is well worth it to have the gearing you need on a long mountain ride.
As for as the "pro look", Team Navigators used triples for the big climb stage at the T d Georgia this spring. Lance got away with a 27 rear cog on his double, but he climbs just a bit faster than most of us.
The only other difference is a that your will have a wider "Q-Factor" - aka - the distance between your pedals. The difference isn't much and most non-professional riders don't even notice it.
I ride a triple and it has actually helped my climbing. I try to stay on my middle chainraing, and only bail to the "granny gear" when I have given it my best. This has allowed me to attempt hills that I wouldn't even try if I only had the double. Over the last few months, I've been able to climb better and better, knowing that I can bail to the 30T ring if i get in trouble.
cheers!
You can run a 30 inner ring with a 12-23 or -25 cassette and have a good tight set of climbing gears, plus keep all the mid and top gears you're used to. A 100-150 gram weight penalty is well worth it to have the gearing you need on a long mountain ride.
As for as the "pro look", Team Navigators used triples for the big climb stage at the T d Georgia this spring. Lance got away with a 27 rear cog on his double, but he climbs just a bit faster than most of us.
The only other difference is a that your will have a wider "Q-Factor" - aka - the distance between your pedals. The difference isn't much and most non-professional riders don't even notice it.
I ride a triple and it has actually helped my climbing. I try to stay on my middle chainraing, and only bail to the "granny gear" when I have given it my best. This has allowed me to attempt hills that I wouldn't even try if I only had the double. Over the last few months, I've been able to climb better and better, knowing that I can bail to the 30T ring if i get in trouble.
cheers!
VeganRider
A standard double with a 12-27 cassette has never let me down. I've ridden up hills right next to ridders walking some very expensive bikes, that must suck. I don't know how many years you have on your legs, but just remember: pain is a good friend.:) Get as much of it as you can as often as possible.
nun
I think its really up to you. If you are a good strong cyclist going for speed and pain the double may be ok. Personally I'm more of a tourer so I go for comfort and find the triple makes my days far more comfortable and enjoyable. I used to have a 52,42,30 and a 12-28 on my bike, but found that I rarely used the 52 so I changed the crank to a 46,36,26. I can get a good work out up the hills using the 36, but when the legs give out I can go down to the 26 and crawl up the hill. The 46/12 gives me enough on the flats and down hills. Gearing is a personal thing and getting it wrong can make you miserable on the bike.
Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?
Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?
spow
Seriously, having a triple makes you look like a wuss. I do not have one. But if I knew nobody could see me I would consider it.
lohsnest
Seriously, having a triple makes you look like a wuss. I do not have one. But if I knew nobody could see me I would consider it.Whatever you say. I have a triple crank and I never use the granny ring. It was a gift and it's better than not having this crank (FSA Team Carbon). I guess one has to have a pretty low self-image of one's self to feel so embarassed about being seen riding a triple crank.
Seeing that you are one of those people who can judge another person on their abilities simply by looking at the number of rings on their crankset, it is probably safe to assume that you are just another one of those posseurs who has to show their worth by flashing their brand-new blinged-out carbon bike(s).
RL
Seeing that you are one of those people who can judge another person on their abilities simply by looking at the number of rings on their crankset, it is probably safe to assume that you are just another one of those posseurs who has to show their worth by flashing their brand-new blinged-out carbon bike(s).
RL
Scotty_Dog
Seriously, having a triple makes you look like a wuss. I do not have one. But if I knew nobody could see me I would consider it.
Congratulations on your very first post to this forum! :) It gives us a keen insight to your superb intellectual mentality.
Congratulations on your very first post to this forum! :) It gives us a keen insight to your superb intellectual mentality.
JohnO
I have one, still use it every so often. I think of it as 'carrying your courage on your chainring'.
Seriously, it's handy, but it's also beneficial if you can stay out of wimp gear. A higher gear is harder to push, but you're at the top of the hill quicker, and not putting out the effort for as long. Just a matter of conditioning.
As for appearance... the people I ride with don't rag on me for having a triple... they whine because they don't have a set of Zipp wheels...
Seriously, it's handy, but it's also beneficial if you can stay out of wimp gear. A higher gear is harder to push, but you're at the top of the hill quicker, and not putting out the effort for as long. Just a matter of conditioning.
As for appearance... the people I ride with don't rag on me for having a triple... they whine because they don't have a set of Zipp wheels...
baj32161
I ride a triple and I don't care what other riders think, nor should you. I rarely use the granny ring but I am darned glad that is there when I need it. There have been a few rides when that alone was the difference between me walking or riding home.....I will take riding anytime.
Brian
Brian
WINGNUTT
I use a double, but have a 12-30 gear on the back that lets me climb the steep hills. On my second set of wheels I've got a 12-23 cassette that's ideal for flats and rolling hills. This seems to be a perfect setup as far as I'm concerned, but it does require an extra rear wheel.
Also, nobody knows I'm a wuss because they just look at my double ring and don't even think to check the size of the rear sprocket. I just look over at the dude with a badass look on my face - what the fawk you lookin at cracka.
Seriously though it's WAY more important to be geared properly than to blow your legs out running a gear that's too big. Who cares what the other guy thinks - he's an insecure loser anyway if he's sizing up your gear setup, and his penor is probably less than half the size of the average man's.
Also, nobody knows I'm a wuss because they just look at my double ring and don't even think to check the size of the rear sprocket. I just look over at the dude with a badass look on my face - what the fawk you lookin at cracka.
Seriously though it's WAY more important to be geared properly than to blow your legs out running a gear that's too big. Who cares what the other guy thinks - he's an insecure loser anyway if he's sizing up your gear setup, and his penor is probably less than half the size of the average man's.
dhk
It's pretty interesting that the macho issue about not having the gears you need has been around for 100 years. Wasn't it Henri Degrange, founder of the TdF, who said "it was better to triumph on muscle power alone than by the artifice of gears". The Tour didn't even allow rear derailleurs until 1937.
Back before derailleurs, you had to be a real man to race the TdF; not a pampered, lycra-clad wussy clicking through 20 gears. No HRMs, or fancy sport drinks, or team mechanics. If you flatted, or your bike broke, you fixed it yourself. When you felt like a smoke, you stopped with your team and lit up. Anybody miss the good old days?
Back before derailleurs, you had to be a real man to race the TdF; not a pampered, lycra-clad wussy clicking through 20 gears. No HRMs, or fancy sport drinks, or team mechanics. If you flatted, or your bike broke, you fixed it yourself. When you felt like a smoke, you stopped with your team and lit up. Anybody miss the good old days?
astroluc
A standard double with a 12-27 cassette has never let me down. I've ridden up hills right next to ridders walking some very expensive bikes, that must suck. I don't know how many years you have on your legs, but just remember: pain is a good friend.:) Get as much of it as you can as often as possible.
yes, I agree!!
yes, I agree!!
nun
It's pretty interesting that the macho issue about not having the gears you need has been around for 100 years. Wasn't it Henri Degrange, founder of the TdF, who said "it was better to triumph on muscle power alone than by the artifice of gears". The Tour didn't even allow rear derailleurs until 1937.
Back before derailleurs, you had to be a real man to race the TdF; not a pampered, lycra-clad wussy clicking through 20 gears. No HRMs, or fancy sport drinks, or team mechanics. If you flatted, or your bike broke, you fixed it yourself. When you felt like a smoke, you stopped with your team and lit up. Anybody miss the good old days?
The double vs triple "wuss factor" is completely stupid. If that argument is true it makes fixed gear people the real studs and the double folks are only marginally less wussy than us triple guys.
Back before derailleurs, you had to be a real man to race the TdF; not a pampered, lycra-clad wussy clicking through 20 gears. No HRMs, or fancy sport drinks, or team mechanics. If you flatted, or your bike broke, you fixed it yourself. When you felt like a smoke, you stopped with your team and lit up. Anybody miss the good old days?
The double vs triple "wuss factor" is completely stupid. If that argument is true it makes fixed gear people the real studs and the double folks are only marginally less wussy than us triple guys.
artmichalek
Go with what you like. Personally I use a tripple because it lets me use a tight cog spacing without giving up the high or low end. It also gives me a pretty straight chain line at the 42-15/16 combos which feels good on the flats. There's not too much that I can't climb with the 42-23, but it's nice to have the smaller ring on longer rides when I just don't feel like grinding my knees on every hill.
vchu7105
Are their any disadvantages to getting a triple. I will be riding in hilly locations, would it be ridiculous to get a double? If I'm going to ride centuries and half centuries full of hills would there be any reason not to go with a triple?
I have a triple On a Trek 1000, year 2005, and Just about Never go in to the smallest gear. If I knew better, I would have never bought a triple. I just dont use it. Beginner Rider here, been riding 3 to 4 times a week about 20miles each day. One day a week with a club for 30 miles.
I have a triple On a Trek 1000, year 2005, and Just about Never go in to the smallest gear. If I knew better, I would have never bought a triple. I just dont use it. Beginner Rider here, been riding 3 to 4 times a week about 20miles each day. One day a week with a club for 30 miles.
Doctor Morbius
... I use a tripple because it lets me use a tight cog spacing without giving up the high or low end. It also gives me a pretty straight chain line at the 42-15/16 combos which feels good on the flats. ... but it's nice to have the smaller ring on longer rides when I just don't feel like grinding my knees on every hill.Ditto. It's nice to have when you need or want it.
I guess that makes me too much of a wuss to hang out with Spow and his crowd. Damnit!! :rolleyes:
I guess that makes me too much of a wuss to hang out with Spow and his crowd. Damnit!! :rolleyes:
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