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I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200 OCV
carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up my mine
> I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200 OCV
> carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up my mine
Bob: The two bikes ride very differently, partly due to frame geometries, partly materials & how
they're used. Have you ridden each (making sure they were set up the same, with identical seat
heights, saddle setback and seat-to-bar relationship)?
You can't go wrong with either bike... if one of them has something about it that makes you want to
ride it more, even if it's appearance, then that's probably the way to go. But asking here isn't
going to be much help, since we're talking about stuff that's personal to you, and your choices
might be based on a different criteria than someone else's.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com (http://www.chainreactionbicycles.com/)
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:24:41 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200 OCV
>carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up my mine
>
Fer godz sake. what difference do you think it makes? why do you want someone else to make up
your mind? buy the one you want. then spend your time riding the gd thing, not worrying about
what to buy.
hi my name is greg. I might have some positive imput for you. depending on what your used to riding.
I've been riding for a while, and only on PEUGEOTS. Can you imagine that. All this time I had been
on bicycles that were not fitted to me personally. First Peugeot in '72 then '75 and in '85. Then 3
months ago I got a LEMOND Alp D'Huez and am very happy. My first ride of 46 miles was very
comfortable and I was impressed. Handling is very stable. I was riding down hill about 40Mph and got
stuck in a crack (about 20 feet long 3/4 to 1 inch deep) in the rode and the bike rode right through
it. I think that either bike is going to suit your needs. You have to make the decision. There was
advice on OLN network the other day about bike fit. I think it was Chris Carmichael. And he stated
that "if the bike does not fit don't get on it" He said that when you are streached out on the bike
you should see the front axel lined up with the handle bar and same when your in the drops. I
checked this out on my new Lemond and it was true. Then rode my Peugeot and it is not lined up
correctly. So most importantly I'd say that bike fit is your most important consideration. Another
thing that I noticed right away when I rode the Lemond was that the stretched out upper body did
allow me to breath a lot more air than my Peugeot. Lemondbikes.com stresses the ability to breath
more deeply on their geometry, I think this is very important. I like the look of the Le Mond
Arrivee. It is an awesome yellow with red highlights. That is one very beautiful bicycle. GEOMETRY:
Lemond geometry side by side with the Trek is an odd - even mis match. So how can you compare the
two. If you pull up the gometry for trek and lemond you can see that the 61 CM lemond has a longer
top tube than the trek 62 CM. This being that the Lemond having a longer top tube will be a more
layed out riding position with better ability to breath. The head angle and fork rake is the same so
both bikes have similar steering characteristics and handling. Beyond all this I can do you a favor.
I was looking through trekbikes.com and found something interesting. In their website is a comment
from the owner of ChainReaction Bikes. He rides OCLV. I bought my bike from ChainReaction bikes so
you could ask him. Seems to be an honest man. on Trekbikes he says,
"It's the closest you'll ever come to the feeling of twisting the throttle of a big-engine
motorcycle on a bicycle."
Mike Jacoubowsky Trek Dealer -- OCLV Owner mikej@chainreaction.com
good luck Greg from san mateo california
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:24:41 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> from wrote:
>I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200 OCV
>carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up my mine
Get both.
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11:39:22 PM 10 June 2003
> Fer godz sake. what difference do you think it makes? why do you want someone else to make up
> your mind? buy the one you want. then spend your time riding the gd thing, not worrying about
> what to buy.
Can we put this one in the FAQ, it's the best reply so far on the "which one should i buy" question.
"Jeff Brody" <jeffwbrody@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:24:41 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200
> >OCV carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up
> >my mine
> >
> Fer godz sake. what difference do you think it makes? why do you want someone else to make up
> your mind? buy the one you want. then spend your time riding the gd thing, not worrying about
> what to buy.
Send me a check! I will be very greatful!
"Kevan Smith" <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:24:41 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> from wrote:
>
> >I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200
> >OCV carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up
> >my mine
>
> Get both.
>
>
>
> --
> http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/ human rights = peace OKAY!! Turn on the sound ONLY for TRYNEL
> CARPETING, FULLY-EQUIPPED
> R.V.'S and FLOATATION SYSTEMS!!
> 11:39:22 PM 10 June 2003
Thanks Greg for the "intelligent comment" One of the few i have read
"NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030611003632.11524.00000372@mb-m13.aol.com...
> hi my name is greg. I might have some positive imput for you. depending on what your used to
> riding. I've been riding for a while, and
only
> on PEUGEOTS. Can you imagine that. All this time I had been on bicycles
that
> were not fitted to me personally. First Peugeot in '72 then '75 and in
'85.
> Then 3 months ago I got a LEMOND Alp D'Huez and am very happy. My first
ride of
> 46 miles was very comfortable and I was impressed. Handling is very stable. I was riding down hill
> about 40Mph and got stuck
in a
> crack (about 20 feet long 3/4 to 1 inch deep) in the rode and the bike
rode
> right through it. I think that either bike is going to suit your needs. You have to make the
> decision. There was advice on OLN network the other day about bike fit. I
think
> it was Chris Carmichael. And he stated that "if the bike does not fit
don't get
> on it" He said that when you are streached out on the bike you should see the
front
> axel lined up with the handle bar and same when your in the drops. I
checked
> this out on my new Lemond and it was true. Then rode my Peugeot and it is
not
> lined up correctly. So most importantly I'd say that bike fit is your most important
> consideration. Another thing that I noticed right away when I
rode
> the Lemond was that the stretched out upper body did allow me to breath a
lot
> more air than my Peugeot. Lemondbikes.com stresses the ability to breath
more
> deeply on their geometry, I think this is very important. I like the look of the Le Mond Arrivee.
> It is an awesome yellow with red highlights. That is one very beautiful bicycle. GEOMETRY: Lemond
> geometry side by side with the Trek is an odd - even mis match. So
how
> can you compare the two. If you pull up the gometry for trek and lemond you can see that the 61 CM
> lemond has a longer top tube than the trek 62 CM. This being that the
Lemond
> having a longer top tube will be a more layed out riding position with
better
> ability to breath. The head angle and fork rake is the same so both bikes have similar
steering
> characteristics and handling. Beyond all this I can do you a favor. I was looking through
> trekbikes.com
and
> found something interesting. In their website is a comment from the owner of ChainReaction
> Bikes. He
rides
> OCLV. I bought my bike from ChainReaction bikes so you could ask him.
Seems to
> be an honest man. on Trekbikes he says,
>
> "It's the closest you'll ever come to the feeling of twisting the throttle
of a
> big-engine motorcycle on a bicycle."
>
> Mike Jacoubowsky Trek Dealer -- OCLV Owner mikej@chainreaction.com
>
> good luck Greg from san mateo california
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:38:09 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> from wrote:
>Send me a check! I will be very greatful!
Vote for me for President. My campaign promise is "A LiteSpeed For Every Citizen!"
>
>"Kevan Smith" <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> wrote in message
>news:tjcdevc3f4cbfgtacvtnqib97d5tvujbto@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:24:41 GMT, "bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> from wrote:
>>
>> >I have narrowed my search for a new bike down to two.\ The Le Mond Arrivee Ti or the Trek 5200
>> >OCV carbon I would welcome opinions on which I should buy. I am having a tough time making up
>> >my mine
>>
>> Get both.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/ human rights = peace OKAY!! Turn on the sound ONLY for TRYNEL
>> CARPETING, FULLY-EQUIPPED
>> R.V.'S and FLOATATION SYSTEMS!!
>> 11:39:22 PM 10 June 2003
>
--
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8:35:32 PM 11 June 2003
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:35:47 -0500, Kevan Smith <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> from Pandimensional
Orgasmatronics wrote:
>Vote for me for President. My campaign promise is "A LiteSpeed For Every Citizen!"
I should mention that Litespeed here is used rhetorically only. If you want a Trek, or a Lemond,
or any other bike, that counts, too. No price limit! And if you want one of Mark's Ti bikes, you
can get TWO!
--
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Around the FUTURE and BEYOND REPAIR!!
8:42:32 PM 11 June 2003
I have both: a 2000 Lemond Zurich (the last of the quill stem bikes) and a year-old Peugeot. Both
are steel and have Ultegra components.
The Lemond is a 59 (recommended by the ergo charts and bike pros as the size bike for my size. In
fact, they're supposed to fit, right out of the box.
The Peugeot is a 63. The two bike's angles are very similar--only scant inches separate them.
However, while Lemond bikes are very nice, and if they fit there's probably nothing better, for me,
the Peugeot is the greatest.
My biggest problem with the Lemond has been that I cannot get my knees behind the pedal spindles. I
hear there's a new seat post that may help me out, but then I'd need a longer and a shorter quill
stem (not easy to find).
The Peugeot just fits. You have to try'm out and whatever the ergo charts and others may say can
sometimes be of little or no help.
"bob" <bob56@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ioNFa.3778$Jw6.2648777@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Thanks Greg for the "intelligent comment" One of the few i have read
>
>
>
> "NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030611003632.11524.00000372@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > hi my name is greg. I might have some positive imput for you. depending on what your used to
> > riding. I've been riding for a while, and
> only
> > on PEUGEOTS. Can you imagine that. All this time I had been on bicycles
> that
> > were not fitted to me personally. First Peugeot in '72 then '75 and in
> '85.
> > Then 3 months ago I got a LEMOND Alp D'Huez and am very happy. My first
> ride of
> > 46 miles was very comfortable and I was impressed. Handling is very stable. I was riding down
> > hill about 40Mph and got
stuck
> in a
> > crack (about 20 feet long 3/4 to 1 inch deep) in the rode and the bike
> rode
> > right through it. I think that either bike is going to suit your needs. You have to make
the
> > decision. There was advice on OLN network the other day about bike fit.
I
> think
> > it was Chris Carmichael. And he stated that "if the bike does not fit
> don't get
> > on it" He said that when you are streached out on the bike you should see the
> front
> > axel lined up with the handle bar and same when your in the drops. I
> checked
> > this out on my new Lemond and it was true. Then rode my Peugeot and it
is
> not
> > lined up correctly. So most importantly I'd say that bike fit is your
most
> > important consideration. Another thing that I noticed right away when I
> rode
> > the Lemond was that the stretched out upper body did allow me to breath
a
> lot
> > more air than my Peugeot. Lemondbikes.com stresses the ability to breath
> more
> > deeply on their geometry, I think this is very important. I like the look of the Le Mond
> > Arrivee. It is an awesome yellow with red highlights. That is one very beautiful bicycle.
> > GEOMETRY: Lemond geometry side by side with the Trek is an odd - even mis match.
So
> how
> > can you compare the two. If you pull up the gometry for trek and lemond you can see that the 61
CM
> > lemond has a longer top tube than the trek 62 CM. This being that the
> Lemond
> > having a longer top tube will be a more layed out riding position with
> better
> > ability to breath. The head angle and fork rake is the same so both bikes have similar
> steering
> > characteristics and handling. Beyond all this I can do you a favor. I was looking through
trekbikes.com
> and
> > found something interesting. In their website is a comment from the owner of ChainReaction
> > Bikes. He
> rides
> > OCLV. I bought my bike from ChainReaction bikes so you could ask him.
> Seems to
> > be an honest man. on Trekbikes he says,
> >
> > "It's the closest you'll ever come to the feeling of twisting the
throttle
> of a
> > big-engine motorcycle on a bicycle."
> >
> > Mike Jacoubowsky Trek Dealer -- OCLV Owner mikej@chainreaction.com
> >
> > good luck Greg from san mateo california
Kevan Smith <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:35:47 -0500, Kevan Smith <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> from Pandimensional
>Orgasmatronics wrote:
>
>>Vote for me for President. My campaign promise is "A LiteSpeed For Every Citizen!"
>
>I should mention that Litespeed here is used rhetorically only. If you want a Trek, or a Lemond,
>or any other bike, that counts, too. No price limit! And if you want one of Mark's Ti bikes, you
>can get TWO!
Whew... you JUST about lost my vote there for a minute, dude.
Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com (http://www.habcycles.com/) Home of the $695 ti frame
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:00:46 GMT, Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com> from Habanero Cycles wrote:
>Kevan Smith <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:35:47 -0500, Kevan Smith <kevansmith23@yahoo.c0/\/\> from Pandimensional
>>Orgasmatronics wrote:
>>
>>>Vote for me for President. My campaign promise is "A LiteSpeed For Every Citizen!"
>>
>>I should mention that Litespeed here is used rhetorically only. If you want a Trek, or a Lemond,
>>or any other bike, that counts, too. No price limit! And if you want one of Mark's Ti bikes, you
>>can get TWO!
>
>Whew... you JUST about lost my vote there for a minute, dude.
I can't have that, since you're going to be Secretary of the Treasury!
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1:48:40 PM 12 June 2003
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