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Is it still the hardest race if you're doped?





Sharon Peters
  
Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking
about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour Preview
in it. She said that the article calls the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought
it was true. I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking drugs. Even
that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would think that with
the riders taking all these drugs to race well, it must be easier for them, thus not the hardest
race in the world. You know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going to work after a
triple espresso. I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't
that diminish the prestige of the event? Am I right? Thanks! -----Sharon Peters Personal Trainer to
the Stars-------- Remove "No Junk" to reply please!!!

Lindsay
  
On 02 Jul 2003 17:18:29 GMT, cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk (Sharon Peters) wrote:

>Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking
>about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour
>Preview in it. She said that the article calls the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she
>thought it was true. I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking drugs.
>Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would think that
>with the riders taking all these drugs to race well, it must be easier for them, thus not the
>hardest race in the world. You know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going to work
>after a triple espresso. I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help",
>doesn't that diminish the prestige of the event? Am I right?

Nope, you are not right. That Post Office team did not get caught for steroids.

Lindsay
----------------------------
"One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."

P.J. O'Rourke

David Ryan
  
Lindsay wrote:
>
> On 02 Jul 2003 17:18:29 GMT, cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk (Sharon Peters) wrote:
>
> >Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking
> >about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour
> >Preview in it. She said that the article calls the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that
> >she thought it was true. I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking
> >drugs. Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would
> >think that with the riders taking all these drugs to race well, it must be easier for them, thus
> >not the hardest race in the world. You know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going
> >to work after a triple espresso. I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a
> >little "help", doesn't that diminish the prestige of the event? Am I right?
>
> Nope, you are not right. That Post Office team did not get caught for steroids.
>
> Lindsay

Also, there no rule against espresso in moderate quantities.

Jay Hill
  
Sharon Peters wrote:

> I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking drugs.

uh-uh

> Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before.

uh-uh

Michael McMurra
  
Good attempt at a troll... Mike

cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk (Sharon Peters) wrote in message
news:<20030702131829.25923.00000023@mb-m29.aol.com>...
> Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking
> about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour
> Preview in it. She said that the article calls the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that
> she thought it was true. I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking
> drugs. Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would
> think that with the riders taking all these drugs to race well, it must be easier for them, thus
> not the hardest race in the world. You know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going
> to work after a triple espresso. I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little
> "help", doesn't that diminish the prestige of the event? Am I right? Thanks! -----Sharon Peters
> Personal Trainer to the Stars-------- Remove "No Junk" to reply please!!!

S. Anderson
  
"Sharon Peters" <cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk> wrote in message
news:20030702131829.25923.00000023@mb-m29.aol.com...
> Hi-

<<snip..>>

> I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't that diminish
> the prestige of the event? Am I right? Thanks! -----Sharon Peters Personal Trainer to the
> Stars-------- Remove "No Junk" to reply please!!!

The whole field is doped...so you're still competing on a level playing field.

Cheers,

Scott..

Lewdvig
  
I read something about the psychology of drug use in Cycling and apparently the drug use is about
minimizing the pain they endure. This seems to contradict what the drugs themselves are supposed to
do - most are performance enhancers (stimulants, blood doping and strength enhancers). Seemed odd.

The difficulty, in absolute terms, has nothing to do with the state of the participants but the
course I think. I don't know that the drugs really add that much to the rider's inherent
capabilities - it is enough to sway the results though. It may help with their suffering, but their
is still lots. Enough to probably kill an average person I think.

OT: Have you heard the proverb about the candle that burns brightest burning our fastest? Guys like
Antequil and Bartali benefited from longevity as a result of their cycling careers. I wonder if the
current generation will. I suspect that the abuse their bodies are taking (chemically induced or
not) will shorten their lives.

The drug users are willing to sacrifice (potentially) years of their life for the glory of the tour.

"Sharon Peters" <cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk> wrote in message
news:20030702131829.25923.00000023@mb-m29.aol.com...
> Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning,
and we
> got to talking about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy
of
> the new Velo News with the Tour Preview in it. She said that the article
calls
> the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought it was true. I disagreed, because
> they have found that most of the riders are taking
drugs.
> Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would think
> that with the riders taking all these drugs to race well, it must be easier for them, thus not the
> hardest race in the world.
You
> know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going to work after a triple espresso. I mean
> come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't that diminish the
> prestige of the event? Am I right? Thanks! -----Sharon Peters Personal Trainer to the
> Stars-------- Remove "No Junk" to reply please!!!

Alex Rodriguez
  
In article <20030702131829.25923.00000023@mb-m29.aol.com>, cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk says...
>
>
>Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking
>about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour
>Preview in it. She said that the article
calls
>the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought it was true. I disagreed, because they
>have found that most of the riders are taking drugs. Even that Post Office team got caught for
>steriods last year or the year before. I would think that with the riders taking all these drugs to
>race well, it must be easier for them, thus not the hardest race in the world. You know, kind of
>like going to work without coffee, and going to work after a triple espresso. I mean come on, its a
>hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't that diminish the prestige of the
>event? Am I right?

Troll.
----------------
Alex

Bob Schwartz
  
Sharon Peters <cyclorazzi@aol.comnojunk> wrote:

Sharon, darling. It is pretty clear you need some tips on trolling.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

Ep
  
No.

"Sharon Peters" <cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk> wrote in message
news:20030702131829.25923.00000023@mb-m29.aol.com... Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin
class at the gym this morning, and we got to talking about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea
had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour Preview in it. She said that the article calls the
Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought it was true. I disagreed, because they
have found that most of the riders are taking drugs. Even that Post Office team got caught for
steriods last year or the year before. I would think that with the riders taking all these drugs to
race well, it must be easier for them, thus not the hardest race in the world. You know, kind of
like going to work without coffee, and going to work after a triple espresso. I mean come on, its a
hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't that diminish the prestige of the
event? Am I right? Thanks! -----Sharon Peters Personal Trainer to the Stars-------- Remove "No
Junk" to reply please!!!

Qui Si Parla Ca
  
sharon quips-<< My girlfriend Andrea had a copy of the new Velo News with the Tour Preview in it.
She said that the article calls the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought it was
true. I disagreed, because they have found that most of the riders are taking drugs.
>><BR><BR>

oh really...how do you know this??

<< Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before >><BR><BR>

Bugle Oil....

<< I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help", doesn't that diminish
the prestige of the event? Am I right? >><BR><BR>

nope, you are wrong and full of ****e-

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Raymo853
  
Even if all the riders were drugged name one other bicycle race where they would not also be
drugged. Actually name one other sport in which the players are not drugged? Every sport in the US,
from college gymnastics to NASCAR racers, and every sport in the world, from badminton in India to
soccer in Ireland, is so in denial about the drug use that goes on everyday.

"Lindsay" <ldblueSPASMSUX@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1n46gv41ginmb5gbhjkv8ra0fn192lf5ci@4ax.com...
> On 02 Jul 2003 17:18:29 GMT, cyclorazzi@aol.comNoJunk (Sharon Peters) wrote:
>
> >Hi- So some of my friends and I were in spin class at the gym this morning,
and we
> >got to talking about the Tour de France. My girlfriend Andrea had a copy
of
> >the new Velo News with the Tour Preview in it. She said that the article
calls
> >the Tour the hardest race in the world, and that she thought it was true. I disagreed, because
> >they have found that most of the riders are taking
drugs.
> >Even that Post Office team got caught for steriods last year or the year before. I would think
> >that with the riders taking all these drugs to
race
> >well, it must be easier for them, thus not the hardest race in the world.
You
> >know, kind of like going to work without coffee, and going to work after
a
> >triple espresso. I mean come on, its a hard race and all, but if you have a little "help",
> >doesn't that diminish the prestige of the event? Am I right?
>
> Nope, you are not right. That Post Office team did not get caught for steroids.
>
> Lindsay
> ----------------------------
> "One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
> difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
> remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."
>
> P.J. O'Rourke

Bruce Johnston
  
"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message news:vg7b6r327met5e@corp.supernews.com...
> Sharon Peters <cyclorazzi@aol.comnojunk> wrote:
>
> Sharon, darling. It is pretty clear you need some tips on trolling.
>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

Since EP set the record for post with most replies, EP has recently given away clearly who EP might
or might not be.

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