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Svend P.
  
From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will be
of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th victory in
a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very modest.
Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he has a
excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious
man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

Svend

David Ryan
  
"Svend P." wrote:
>
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
> channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
> have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
> be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
> victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
> modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
> has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
> cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!
>
> Svend

Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on the
west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work or a
morning ride.

J999w
  
>Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on
>the west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work
>or a morning ride.

Yup .... I come home from work at 8:30am so it's perfect for me !!

jw milwaukee

Per ElmsäTer
  
Svend P. wrote:
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
> channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
> have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
> be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
> victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
> modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
> has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
> cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!
>
> Svend

What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means I
have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle of
the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in about
45 minutes.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

B. Lafferty
  
"Svend P." <svendpet@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:3f0685e7$0$76067$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de
France
> every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you
> Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy
> nights. This year I think will be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong
> will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit,
> very confident - and very modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and
> Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis
> (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out
> for Tyler Hamilton!
>
> Svend

Ah Svend, I'll be watching Tyler in the mornings here on the East Coast but I think that you'll be
disappointed in his overall result. Now if his DS, Bjarne "Mr. 60%" Riis could get Tyler's
hematocrit up to Riis' 1996 level, Tyler would have a much more interesting race. Tyler has had an
excellent season, but I don't think he's going to be competitive for gc in the Tour. If I were going
to bet against Armstong, I put my money on Ulrich. Hope springs eternal.

Qui Si Parla Ca
  
sven-<< From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on
several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and
Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights >><BR><BR>

Actually the LeTour comes on here in CO at 7;30 in the AM, also three other times.

Don't feel sorry for us, feel sorry that we had to endure 30 minute, once per week Tour updates with
the likes of Karsten and Possey...that was punishment!!

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com (http://www.vecchios.com/) "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Davide Tosi
  
"Per Elmsäter" <perDOTelmsater@telia.com> wrote:

>What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means I
>have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle of
>the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in
>about 45 minutes.

They do not sell VCRs in Norway?

Heather Halvors
  
Davide Tosi wrote:
>
> "Per Elmsäter" <perDOTelmsater@telia.com> wrote:
>
> >What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means
> >I have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle
> >of the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in
> >about 45 minutes.
>
> They do not sell VCRs in Norway?

no doubt, i tape every stage. for one thing, i can't stand the constant repeat of the same 4
advertisements every 12 minutes. i'm still traumatized by the "run-a-way shoes.com" ad from a couple
years back.

h

Urhome
  
It's worse than that for me ... I've got about 90 channels but they're all garbage, so I didn't
realize until today that Cox cable had switched out OLN, sometime during the last year with TCM
which plays worthless old black and white movies. Turner is bad ... very, very bad.

And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink outfit like OLN. All CBS would
have to do, for instance, is divert what they're flushing on the likes of Dan Rather--I could get
that my watching reruns of propaganda from Pravda.

I guess I'll have to follow the race on the web and buy the 10 hours of CDs. I'm not going to up my
cable subscription just to get at least 20 days out of 360 of interesting TV a year.

"Svend P." <svendpet@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:3f0685e7$0$76067$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de
France
> every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you
> Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy
> nights. This year I think will be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong
> will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit,
> very confident - and very modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and
> Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis
> (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out
> for Tyler Hamilton!
>
> Svend

Warren
  
In article <wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05>, urhome <urhome@cox.net> wrote:

> It's worse than that for me ... I've got about 90 channels but they're all garbage, so I didn't
> realize until today that Cox cable had switched out OLN, sometime during the last year with TCM
> which plays worthless old black and white movies. Turner is bad ... very, very bad.
>
> And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink outfit like OLN. All CBS
> would have to do, for instance, is divert what they're flushing on the likes of Dan Rather--I
> could get that my watching reruns of propaganda from Pravda.
>
> I guess I'll have to follow the race on the web and buy the 10 hours of CDs. I'm not going to up
> my cable subscription just to get at least 20 days out of 360 of interesting TV a year.

So you're not counting live daily coverage of the Vuelta, Giro and 30-60 minute recaps of all the WC
races? Don't like Cox cable? Get a dish.

-WG

Royg
  
"urhome" <urhome@cox.net> wrote in message news:wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05...

> And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink
outfit
> like OLN.

Huh? As if ABC, NBC, or CBS would give us 2-1/2 hours of live coverage daily. You're off man. Thank
goodness OLN outbid the networks!

As Warren already suggested, get a dish.

Nick Burns
  
He wants it for free.

"RoyG" <royg at nospam> wrote in message news:jdadnZHjyekHi5qiXTWJhw@thebiz.net...
>
> "urhome" <urhome@cox.net> wrote in message news:wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05...
>
> > And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink
> outfit
> > like OLN.
>
>
> Huh? As if ABC, NBC, or CBS would give us 2-1/2 hours of live coverage daily. You're off man.
> Thank goodness OLN outbid the networks!
>
> As Warren already suggested, get a dish.

Tom Kunich
  
If you think that our Tour coverage is bad - we can't even get a decent Danish beer here in
the states.

"Svend P." <svendpet@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:3f0685e7$0$76067$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de
France
> every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain
stages: all
> day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during
the
> night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will be of special interest for
> you, not only
because
> Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but
also
> because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and
very
> modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège
and
> Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His
manager
> Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but
even he
> is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!
>
> Svend

Fred Marx
  
David Ryan wrote:

> "Svend P." wrote:
>
>>From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
>>channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
>>have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
>>be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
>>victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
>>modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
>>has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
>>cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!
>>
>>Svend
>
>
> Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on
> the west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work
> or a morning ride.

don't forget prime time reruns...

Amit
  
"Svend P." <svendpet@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:<3f0685e7$0$76067$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>...
> From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
> channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
> have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights.

...and what's worse is we're not Padan.

Svend P.
  
I am not offended by your remarks about Bjarne Riis - I don't even like him, the arrogant bastard.
In retrospect it seems like they all were "on someting" those days. However, it was a mighty fine
race i 1996 when Riis broke the boring and always defensive Indurain's ownership to the TdF. (For
the record: Riis won TdF-stages in 1993, 1994, 1996 - finished 5 in TdF 1994, 3 in 1995)

About Tyler Hamilton: I think he is better thank you tink - time will show. Here is another view:
"Put together a former Tour de France winner with a highly astonishing cycle-philosophy and some
very untraditional training methods and put him in the manager seat, then add a former lieutenant of
the Current "Tour King" and one of the major animators so far this season, with victories in
Liege-Bastogne-Liege and the Tour Of Romandie, sum it up with a young Spanish climber with enough
potential to become a major GC threat in any Grand Tour himself over the next couple of years to
come, add in a homogeneous group of loyal domestiques willing to sacrifice any chance of their own,
to be at complete service for the designated team leaders, and then you have the secret ingredients
for success in the worlds biggest cycle event?" from
http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=4188

About Ullrich: I like him too. I hope he will win. I don't think he can. My money is on Armstrong,
and if he is breakable at all, I rather think Simoni, Beloki or Hamilton could do it.

Have a nice Tour.

Svend

"B. Lafferty" <AceptNoSubstitutes@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:AIANa.27098$C83.2471895@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

> Ah Svend, I'll be watching Tyler in the mornings here on the East Coast
but
> I think that you'll be disappointed in his overall result. Now if his DS, Bjarne "Mr. 60%" Riis
> could get Tyler's hematocrit up to Riis' 1996
level,
> Tyler would have a much more interesting race. Tyler has had an excellent season, but I don't
> think he's going to be competitive for gc in the Tour. If I were going to bet against Armstong, I
> put my money on Ulrich. Hope springs eternal.

B. Lafferty
  
"Svend P." <svendpet@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:3f07e5ef$0$76055$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
>
> About Tyler Hamilton: I think he is better thank you tink - time will
show.
> Here is another view: "Put together a former Tour de France winner with a highly astonishing
> cycle-philosophy and some very untraditional training methods and put him
in
> the manager seat, then add a former lieutenant of the Current "Tour King" and one of the major
> animators so far this season, with victories in Liege-Bastogne-Liege and the Tour Of Romandie,
> sum it up with a young Spanish climber with enough potential to become a major GC threat in
> any Grand Tour himself over the next couple of years to come, add in a homogeneous group of
> loyal domestiques willing to sacrifice any chance of their own, to be at complete service for
> the designated team leaders, and then you have the secret ingredients for success in the
> worlds biggest
cycle
> event?" from http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=4188

I tink not. We'll soon see.
>
> About Ullrich: I like him too. I hope he will win. I don't think he can.
My
> money is on Armstrong, and if he is breakable at all, I rather think
Simoni,
> Beloki or Hamilton could do it.
>
> Have a nice Tour.
>

I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win this
year are 50/50. I have my doubt about Simoni in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the last 5
days of the Giro.

It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.

Inconnu
  
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:56:11 +0000, B. Lafferty wrote:

> I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win
> this year are 50/50. I have my doubt about Simoni in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the
> last 5 days of the Giro.
>
> It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.

I'd go further than that.

I wouldn't mind betting that all roads lead to the Alamo for Davey Crockett this year.

And the Malia Gialla in Parigi?

Bianco-Celeste methinks.

B. Lafferty
  
I would be nice seeing Gimondi with a real TdF champion.

"inconnu" <inconnu@cpe0050da66e294-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.07.06.12.11.54.571646@cpe0050da66e294-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:56:11 +0000, B. Lafferty wrote:
>
> > I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win
> > this year are 50/50. I have my doubt about
Simoni
> > in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the last 5 days of the Giro.
> >
> > It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.
>
> I'd go further than that.
>
> I wouldn't mind betting that all roads lead to the Alamo for Davey Crockett this year.
>
> And the Malia Gialla in Parigi?
>
> Bianco-Celeste methinks.

Otto
  
"Tom Kunich" <tkunich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<3qHNa.82508$Io.7450858@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
> If you think that our Tour coverage is bad - we can't even get a decent Danish beer here in
> the states.

you can't get a decent danish beer in denmark!

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