TDF timing question

[Mrbob]

The prologue was timed to the 1/1000th of a second. What about the other stages?

Is the precision of the official timings for later stages the same? I was under the (possibly wrong)
impression that some stages only time to the second. If different precision is used for different
stages, does a rider's prologue result act as a de facto tie breaker?

Hoping for another 8 second GC margin of victory,

MrBob

[Jean-Yves Hervé]

In article <bobmaher-108294.14005405072003@news.it.northwestern.edu>, MrBob
<bobmaher@dontspamonme.nwuDOTTedu.dontspamonme> wrote:

>
> Is the precision of the official timings for later stages the same? I was under the (possibly
> wrong) impression that some stages only time to the second. If different precision is used for
> different stages, does a rider's prologue result act as a de facto tie breaker?

they use the timing in seconds for the GC, but in time trials they have to go down to ms to rank the
riders. So in, fact, the ms timing is more important for the Green Jersey than for the GC.

jyh.

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[Martin Verstrun]

It is also used as a tie-breaker if all of the other criteria are (stage wins, placings, etc)
inconclusive.

"MrBob" <bobmaher@dontspamonme.nwuDOTTedu.dontspamonme> wrote in message
news:bobmaher-108294.14005405072003@news.it.northwestern.edu...
> The prologue was timed to the 1/1000th of a second. What about the other stages?
>
> Is the precision of the official timings for later stages the same? I was under the (possibly
> wrong) impression that some stages only time to the second. If different precision is used for
> different stages, does a rider's prologue result act as a de facto tie breaker?
>
> Hoping for another 8 second GC margin of victory,
>
> MrBob

[Daniel Connelly]

Martin Verstrunk wrote:
> It is also used as a tie-breaker if all of the other criteria are (stage wins, placings, etc)
> inconclusive.
>

It's strange they don't just use the fractions by default (rounding once) instead of only as a tie
breaker (round multiple times). Consider the following case:

I assume rounding is relative to stage winner time, to highest integral second less than or equal to
actual time.

Rider A time trial times: .99 seconds (round to 0) .99 seconds (round to 0) .99 seconds (round to 0)

Rider B time trial times
1.00 seconds (round to 1) .00 seconds (round to 0) .00 seconds (round to 0)

Rider A wins on GC, considering these 3 stages only, with 0 seconds, versus 1 second for rider B.

This is despite the fact the total time is
2.97 seconds, versus 1.00 for rider B.

On the other hand, if the winner of stage 1 had been 0.01 seconds faster, rider B would win (1
second to 1 second, wins on tie breaker). He benefits from someone else being faster....

Dan

[Inconnu]

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:44:23 +0000, Daniel Connelly wrote:

>
>
> Martin Verstrunk wrote:
>> It is also used as a tie-breaker if all of the other criteria are (stage wins, placings, etc)
>> inconclusive.
>>
>
> It's strange they don't just use the fractions by default (rounding once) instead of only as a tie
> breaker (round multiple times). Consider the following case:
>
> I assume rounding is relative to stage winner time, to highest integral second less than or equal
> to actual time.
>
> Rider A time trial times: .99 seconds (round to 0) .99 seconds (round to 0) .99 seconds
> (round to 0)
>
> Rider B time trial times
> 1.00 seconds (round to 1) .00 seconds (round to 0) .00 seconds (round to 0)
>
> Rider A wins on GC, considering these 3 stages only, with 0 seconds, versus 1 second for rider B.
>
> This is despite the fact the total time is
> 2.97 seconds, versus 1.00 for rider B.
>
> On the other hand, if the winner of stage 1 had been 0.01 seconds faster, rider B would win (1
> second to 1 second, wins on tie breaker). He benefits from someone else being faster....
>
> Dan

nope

standard mathematical rules of rounding apply

.0 - to .49 go down

.50 to .99 go up