saeco's new jersey

[Chris]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970

nice "subtle protest"

[Mathias Koerber]

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:09:31 +0000, Chris wrote:

> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
>
> nice "subtle protest"

Is related to the following?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/jul03/jul13newsL

¨[...] Fines:

Each Saeco rider was fined 200 FS for irregular uniforms. The team was also fined 500 FS for
each rider for the same reason. [...]¨

[Chris]

"Mathias Koerber" <mathias@koerber.org> wrote in news:pan.2003.07.13.04.18.01.833395@koerber.org:

> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:09:31 +0000, Chris wrote:
>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH297
>>
>>
>> nice "subtle protest"
>
> Is related to the following?
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/jul03/jul13newsL
>
> ¨[...] Fines:
>
> Each Saeco rider was fined 200 FS for irregular uniforms. The team was also fined 500 FS for
> each rider for the same reason. [...]¨
>

yes it would. cannondale's new bike is just under the legal weight and this was the teams way of
protesting UCI Min. weight rule.

[Mathias Koerber]

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:04:29 +0000, Chris wrote:

>> Each Saeco rider was fined 200 FS for irregular uniforms. The team was also fined 500 FS for
>> each rider for the same reason. [...]¨
>>
>>
> yes it would. cannondale's new bike is just under the legal weight and this was the teams way of
> protesting UCI Min. weight rule.

But why would that jersey be deemed irregular? Just because of the protest printed on it? Or was
there something else irregular about it?

[Kbh]

> yes it would. cannondale's new bike is just under the legal weight and this was the
teams
> way of protesting UCI Min. weight rule.

Correction, this was Cannondale's way of protesting the weight rule.

[Jan]

Mathias Koerber wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 05:04:29 +0000, Chris wrote:
>
>>> Each Saeco rider was fined 200 FS for irregular uniforms. The team was also fined 500 FS
>>> for each rider for the same reason. [...]¨
>>>
>>>
>> yes it would. cannondale's new bike is just under the legal weight and this was the teams way of
>> protesting UCI Min. weight rule.
>
> But why would that jersey be deemed irregular? Just because of the protest printed on it? Or was
> there something else irregular about it?

Well if it wasn't in the teams registered colours, I suppose that would be deemed irregular. ;-))

Jan

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[Steven L. Sheff]

On 7/12/03 11:04 PM, in article Xns93B6EB1782B24vik187hotmailcom@24.70.95.211, "Chris"
<vik187@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Mathias Koerber" <mathias@koerber.org> wrote in news:pan.2003.07.13.04.18.01.833395@koerber.org:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 03:09:31 +0000, Chris wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH297
>>>
>>>
>>> nice "subtle protest"
>>
>> Is related to the following?
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/jul03/jul13newsL
>>
>> ¨[...] Fines:
>>
>> Each Saeco rider was fined 200 FS for irregular uniforms. The team was also fined 500 FS for
>> each rider for the same reason. [...]¨
>>
>
> yes it would. cannondale's new bike is just under the legal weight and this was the teams way of
> protesting UCI Min. weight rule.

Simoni's bike had weights glued to the top tube to bring its weight UP to meet the requirements.

[Todd Kuzma]

Chris wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
>
> nice "subtle protest"
>

It's no protest. It's marketing. Every manufacturer there could build a bike under the UCI
weight limit.

Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776
http://www.heronbicycles.com (http://www.heronbicycles.com/) http://www.tullios.com (http://www.tullios.com/)

[Chris]

Todd Kuzma <tullio@TheRamp.net> wrote in news:3F119B56.4080600@TheRamp.net:

> Chris wrote:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
>>
>> nice "subtle protest"
>>
>
> It's no protest. It's marketing. Every manufacturer there could build a bike under the UCI
> weight limit.
>
> Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776
> http://www.heronbicycles.com (http://www.heronbicycles.com/) http://www.tullios.com (http://www.tullios.com/)
>
>
>
>

sarcasm doesn't come across that well in an email(sorry)

[Kenny]

> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
>
> nice "subtle protest"

Yes, but a fine of 200 Swiss Francs for each rider

[Daniel S. Lieb]

Did the French riders that wore the French national soccer jersey the day of the World Cup Final in
1998 have to pay fines?

Daniel

Kenny wrote:

> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
> >
> > nice "subtle protest"
>
> Yes, but a fine of 200 Swiss Francs for each rider

[Stewart Fleming]

Kenny wrote:
>>http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
>>
>>nice "subtle protest"
>
>
> Yes, but a fine of 200 Swiss Francs for each rider

Any word on whether or not anyone on Saeco got fined for not having sleeves? One or two riders
had very abbreviated jerseys in the first two mountain stages. Or is it OK because the shoulders
were covered?

[Nick Burns]

"Stewart Fleming" <drmofe@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3F11FADA.1080400@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Kenny wrote:
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
> >>
> >>nice "subtle protest"
> >
> >
> > Yes, but a fine of 200 Swiss Francs for each rider
>
> Any word on whether or not anyone on Saeco got fined for not having sleeves? One or two riders had
> very abbreviated jerseys in the first two mountain stages. Or is it OK because the shoulders were
> covered?

They get away with it by cutting the seam at the bottom and then rolling it up. If the sleeve is
already loose, they don't need to cut it. As long as the fabric is intact, I don't think they get
fined. That is how it has been enforced AFAIK.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <3F119B56.4080600@TheRamp.net>,
Todd Kuzma <tullio@TheRamp.net> wrote:

> Chris wrote:
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage7/CH2970
> >
> > nice "subtle protest"
> >
>
> It's no protest. It's marketing. Every manufacturer there could build a bike under the UCI
> weight limit.

So, what do you think: when Cannondale starts selling this bike, will they include a little set of
weights with it with stern instructions about how the weights must be added if this bike is to be
used in any race held under the sanction of the UCI?

Might be amusing the first time one Cat 4 nitwit protests another Cat 4 nitwit's bike at a local
crit due to a weight violation.

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