Rene Clancy
Go Jan GO!!!!
Ullrich DESTROYED Lance!
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Scott Downie
What was it? 1:30 over 45k ? Even the most hardcore Ullrich haters must appreciate that one !
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Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
<gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Go Jan GO!!!!
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Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
<gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Go Jan GO!!!!
Harris
"Rene Clancy" wrote:
> Go Jan GO!!!!
www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
immediately goes into his team truck."
Art Harris
> Go Jan GO!!!!
www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
immediately goes into his team truck."
Art Harris
Hasse R . Hanse
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:18:01 +0200, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
>Go Jan GO!!!!
I always said that Jan is winning this years tour,
like he said : Ill be back
mvh.Hasse R. Hansen
>Go Jan GO!!!!
I always said that Jan is winning this years tour,
like he said : Ill be back
mvh.Hasse R. Hansen
Dwjones
ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to be able to match lance in
the Pyrenees or in the team time trial. this will be a close race to the finish. but i still feel
confident that lance will win in a white knuckler. "Scott Downie" <Cillyman@adelphia.net> wrote in
message news:3rURa.4829$KZ.1698002@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> What was it? 1:30 over 45k ? Even the most hardcore Ullrich haters must appreciate that one !
>
> --
> Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
> <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
the Pyrenees or in the team time trial. this will be a close race to the finish. but i still feel
confident that lance will win in a white knuckler. "Scott Downie" <Cillyman@adelphia.net> wrote in
message news:3rURa.4829$KZ.1698002@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> What was it? 1:30 over 45k ? Even the most hardcore Ullrich haters must appreciate that one !
>
> --
> Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
> <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
B. Lafferty
Lance Armstrong had that lovely white scum, a la Simoni, around his mouth near the end. The man was
clearly not happy with his ride from the snippet shown of him on OLN.
Great to see Vinni only lose 30 seconds on Armstrong. The next few days will be
wonderful...........except late, prime-time, over commercialized Sunday OLN coverage of Stage 14.
Then again, at least ist's not CBS.
"Harris" <n2ah@spam.sprynet.com> wrote in message
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> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes into his team truck."
>
> Art Harris
clearly not happy with his ride from the snippet shown of him on OLN.
Great to see Vinni only lose 30 seconds on Armstrong. The next few days will be
wonderful...........except late, prime-time, over commercialized Sunday OLN coverage of Stage 14.
Then again, at least ist's not CBS.
"Harris" <n2ah@spam.sprynet.com> wrote in message
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> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes into his team truck."
>
> Art Harris
Jean-Yves Hervé
In article <1IURa.29626$n95.4055906@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, "Harris"
<n2ah@spam.sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes into his team truck."
on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in yellow"
reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious, smiling, and
friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on French TV, and I
can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am no Lance fan by
any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has been quite
admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself liking the guy
despite miself :-)
jyh.
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<n2ah@spam.sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes into his team truck."
on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in yellow"
reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious, smiling, and
friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on French TV, and I
can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am no Lance fan by
any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has been quite
admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself liking the guy
despite miself :-)
jyh.
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jean-yves herve' /\ Department of Computer Science \/ e-mail --> jyh@cs.uri.edu and Statistics /\
University of Rhode Island \/ Tel. --> (401) 874-4400 Kingston, RI 02881-0816 /\ Fax. --> (401)
874-4617 USA \/
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Nick Burns
"Harris" <n2ah@spam.sprynet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes
That has been the same thing all year. Just wait until the Tour though. You just wait.
into his team truck."
>
> Art Harris
news:1IURa.29626$n95.4055906@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>
> "Rene Clancy" wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> www.eurosport.com reports that, "Lance Armstrong looks very upset. He gets off his bike and
> immediately goes
That has been the same thing all year. Just wait until the Tour though. You just wait.
into his team truck."
>
> Art Harris
Robert Oliver
> I am no Lance fan by any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior
> has been quite admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself
> liking the guy despite miself :-)
I can't help but wonder how you responded to Jan's behavior in the last few years.
> has been quite admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself
> liking the guy despite miself :-)
I can't help but wonder how you responded to Jan's behavior in the last few years.
Nick Burns
"dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to
be
> able to match lance in the Pyrenees or in the team time trial.
Do you think Jan will lose more time in any of the other team time trials? There are only what,
3 more TTTs? Don't forget there are also 2 more prologues and then a sudden death ice hockey
shoot out.
this will be
> a close race to the finish. but i still feel confident that lance will win in a white knuckler.
> "Scott Downie" <Cillyman@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3rURa.4829$KZ.1698002@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > What was it? 1:30 over 45k ? Even the most hardcore Ullrich haters must appreciate that one !
> >
> > --
> > Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
> > <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Go Jan GO!!!!
> >
>
news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to
be
> able to match lance in the Pyrenees or in the team time trial.
Do you think Jan will lose more time in any of the other team time trials? There are only what,
3 more TTTs? Don't forget there are also 2 more prologues and then a sudden death ice hockey
shoot out.
this will be
> a close race to the finish. but i still feel confident that lance will win in a white knuckler.
> "Scott Downie" <Cillyman@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3rURa.4829$KZ.1698002@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > What was it? 1:30 over 45k ? Even the most hardcore Ullrich haters must appreciate that one !
> >
> > --
> > Irrationally held truths may be more harmfull than reasoned errors. "Rene Clancy"
> > <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote in message news:bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Go Jan GO!!!!
> >
>
Nev Shea
jean-yves hervé <jyh@cs.uri.edu> wrote in news:jyh-5697EB.12244918072003@news-cm.club-internet.fr:
> on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
> very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in yellow"
> reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious, smiling, and
> friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on French TV, and I
> can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am no Lance fan by
> any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has been quite
> admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself liking the guy
> despite miself :-)
Thanks for posting this. I'd like to know if your perceptions have been influenced by the French
press this year. The reports we've heard in the past have been that the French press has taken every
opportunity to smear and criticize Armstrong; are they being less critical this year, or maybe even
positive from caught up in the 100 years celebrations and all that?
NS
> on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
> very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in yellow"
> reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious, smiling, and
> friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on French TV, and I
> can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am no Lance fan by
> any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has been quite
> admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself liking the guy
> despite miself :-)
Thanks for posting this. I'd like to know if your perceptions have been influenced by the French
press this year. The reports we've heard in the past have been that the French press has taken every
opportunity to smear and criticize Armstrong; are they being less critical this year, or maybe even
positive from caught up in the 100 years celebrations and all that?
NS
Kurgan Gringion
"Nev Shea" <spamtrap@garbage.net> wrote in message
news:OYVRa.108022$Io.9212836@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> jean-yves hervé <jyh@cs.uri.edu> wrote in news:jyh-5697EB.12244918072003@news-cm.club-internet.fr:
>
>
> > on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
> > very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in
> > yellow" reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious,
> > smiling, and friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on
> > French TV, and I can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am
> > no Lance fan by any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has
> > been quite admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself
> > liking the guy despite miself :-)
>
>
> Thanks for posting this. I'd like to know if your perceptions have been influenced by the French
> press this year. The reports we've heard in the past have been that the French press has taken
> every opportunity to smear and criticize Armstrong; are they being less critical this year, or
> maybe even positive from caught up in the 100 years celebrations and all that?
He has gotten more relaxed and less paranoid in his dealing with the press.
news:OYVRa.108022$Io.9212836@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> jean-yves hervé <jyh@cs.uri.edu> wrote in news:jyh-5697EB.12244918072003@news-cm.club-internet.fr:
>
>
> > on French TV, less than 5 minutes after the race, he gave a very nice and gracious interview (in
> > very good french), gave credit to Ullrich, said the expected "too early to tell, still in
> > yellow" reply to the idiotic questions. All in all, I am quite impressed by his gracious,
> > smiling, and friendly attitude so far. It's the first time in 3 years that I watch the TdF on
> > French TV, and I can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998. I am
> > no Lance fan by any means (been a Jan fan since 1996), but this year, Armstrong's behavior has
> > been quite admirable so far (can't say for the last couple of years). I actually find miself
> > liking the guy despite miself :-)
>
>
> Thanks for posting this. I'd like to know if your perceptions have been influenced by the French
> press this year. The reports we've heard in the past have been that the French press has taken
> every opportunity to smear and criticize Armstrong; are they being less critical this year, or
> maybe even positive from caught up in the 100 years celebrations and all that?
He has gotten more relaxed and less paranoid in his dealing with the press.
Daniel Connelly
Nev Shea wrote:
> I can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998.
Maybe the psychotherapy helped.
> I can hardly believe it is the person as the obnoxious guy who won in 1998.
Maybe the psychotherapy helped.
Marlene Blansha
In article <bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
> Go Jan GO!!!!
JAN!!!
But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
presentation, ya shmucks!
> Go Jan GO!!!!
JAN!!!
But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
presentation, ya shmucks!
Ken Very Big Li
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:05:09 +0200, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse@REMOVEramlev.dk> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:18:01 +0200, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
>
>>Go Jan GO!!!!
>
>I always said that Jan is winning this years tour,
>
>like he said : Ill be back
>mvh.Hasse R. Hansen
Funny how he's winning without wearing The Jersey. Now all he needs to do is climb those mountains a
little better.
---
Kelly Beard, a.k.a. Mr. K.V.B. Liar
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:18:01 +0200, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
>
>>Go Jan GO!!!!
>
>I always said that Jan is winning this years tour,
>
>like he said : Ill be back
>mvh.Hasse R. Hansen
Funny how he's winning without wearing The Jersey. Now all he needs to do is climb those mountains a
little better.
---
Kelly Beard, a.k.a. Mr. K.V.B. Liar
Nick Burns
"Marlene Blanshay" <blanshay@total.net> wrote in message
news:blanshay-1807031427340001@192.168.1.3...
> In article <bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Rene Clancy"
> <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> JAN!!!
>
> But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
> wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
> presentation, ya shmucks!
On the west coast they have the final showing from 5:30 to 8:00 so I hope they will show it since
they have an extra 30 minutes to fit it in.
news:blanshay-1807031427340001@192.168.1.3...
> In article <bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Rene Clancy"
> <gorgonzola@canada.com> wrote:
>
> > Go Jan GO!!!!
>
> JAN!!!
>
> But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
> wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
> presentation, ya shmucks!
On the west coast they have the final showing from 5:30 to 8:00 so I hope they will show it since
they have an extra 30 minutes to fit it in.
Dave
"dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to be able to match lance
> in the Pyrenees
Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
Dave
news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to be able to match lance
> in the Pyrenees
Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
Dave
Marlene Blansha
In article <S6YRa.526$Mz3.151@news.randori.com>, "Nick Burns" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Marlene Blanshay" <blanshay@total.net> wrote in message
> news:blanshay-1807031427340001@192.168.1.3...
> > In article <bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Go Jan GO!!!!
> >
> > JAN!!!
> >
> > But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
> > wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
> > presentation, ya shmucks!
>
> On the west coast they have the final showing from 5:30 to 8:00 so I hope they will show it since
> they have an extra 30 minutes to fit it in.
Yeah, I'll watch the end of the evening coverage, or the coverage on canal evasion. They seem to
stay on a few minutes longer. I bet if Lance won the stage they'd have stayed with him.
> "Marlene Blanshay" <blanshay@total.net> wrote in message
> news:blanshay-1807031427340001@192.168.1.3...
> > In article <bf92qt$cfvr7$1@ID-5759.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Rene Clancy" <gorgonzola@canada.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Go Jan GO!!!!
> >
> > JAN!!!
> >
> > But Thhhbbtttt! for OLN for not sticking around to show the podium presentation. WTF!!! The guy
> > wins his first stage in who knows how long, it's his big comeback, stick around for the
> > presentation, ya shmucks!
>
> On the west coast they have the final showing from 5:30 to 8:00 so I hope they will show it since
> they have an extra 30 minutes to fit it in.
Yeah, I'll watch the end of the evening coverage, or the coverage on canal evasion. They seem to
stay on a few minutes longer. I bet if Lance won the stage they'd have stayed with him.
Dwjones
no he doesn't. vinokurov is a member of his previous team "Dave" <dhansen2@socal.rr.com> wrote in
message news:kI_Ra.16109$nq3.546381@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
> "dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team
to be
> > able to match lance in the Pyrenees
>
>
> Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
>
> Dave
message news:kI_Ra.16109$nq3.546381@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
> "dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team
to be
> > able to match lance in the Pyrenees
>
>
> Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
>
> Dave
Warren
In article <kI_Ra.16109$nq3.546381@twister.socal.rr.com>, Dave <dhansen2@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> "dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to be able to match lance
> > in the Pyrenees
>
>
> Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
So far this Tour, when the bunch has been reduced to 7-10 guys how many USPA were there and how many
Bianchi and Telekom were there?
I predict Heras and Armstrong will attack hard because Ullrich can't do that.
-WG
> "dwjones" <dwjones45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5SURa.79539$sY2.35727@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > ullrich had a spectaular time trial. however he does not have the team to be able to match lance
> > in the Pyrenees
>
>
> Sure he does...the team of the current 2nd place rider, Vinokurov
So far this Tour, when the bunch has been reduced to 7-10 guys how many USPA were there and how many
Bianchi and Telekom were there?
I predict Heras and Armstrong will attack hard because Ullrich can't do that.
-WG
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