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I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
options including medications.
I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
Thank You for your help,
--RSK
Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net> wrote in part:
>I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
>HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
>
>I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
>options including medications.
>
>I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
>
>Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
>
>Thank You for your help,
>--RSK
Yes. Assuming no clinically significant heart disease as yet, I would not
consider medication without making severe lifestyle changes first: Ideal body
weight; sharply reduced carbohydrate and sat fat; near zero trans fat; fish
oil and DHA supplements or lots of fatty fish; tree nuts; plant sterol/stanol
supplements/margarines; daily strenuous exercise.
Then retest.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
> Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
>
Depending on how progressive your doc is, you might try to also determine
your Lp(a) number. If it is also high, you could possibly add niacin as a
supplement to help raise your HDL (still need to exercise regularly to bring
this up) and lower your Lp(a) as well. Everyone is different, but I also
drink a glass of orange juice daily and I drink a dark beer 3-4x per week.
All of the things I listed helped raise my HDL about 20 points.
Good luck!
Robert,
You have the same profile I had 10 years ago. Low HDL and high trig
are two signs of metabolic syndrome - so ask you doc about that. If
you also have high blood pressure and/or central obesity that may
confirm it. The best drug to raise HDL is Niaspan - see
www.niaspan.com Non-drug approaches - moderate drinking and aerobic
exercise. My HDL went from 35 to 69 now without drugs. For nutrition
advice see http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html
Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<1bovsvg5g6kqndevtc9jr364pna899elvj@4ax.com>...
> I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
> HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
>
> I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
> options including medications.
>
> I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
>
> Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
>
> Thank You for your help,
> --RSK
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Robert Kershaw wrote:
> I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
> HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
>
> I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
> options including medications.
>
> I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
>
What about losing weight if you are overweight?
What is your height and weight, anyway?
>
> Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
>
Depends on whether you have MetS.
>
> Thank You for your help,
> --RSK
You are welcome.
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jim Chinnis wrote:
> Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net> wrote in part:
>
> >I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
> >HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
> >
> >I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
> >options including medications.
> >
> >I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
> >
> >Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
> >
> >Thank You for your help,
> >--RSK
>
> Yes. Assuming no clinically significant heart disease as yet, I would not
> consider medication without making severe lifestyle changes first: Ideal body
> weight;
Yes. Especially if there is MetS.
> sharply reduced carbohydrate and sat fat; near zero trans fat; fish
> oil and DHA supplements or lots of fatty fish; tree nuts; plant sterol/stanol
> supplements/margarines; daily strenuous exercise.
Don't like the margarines or any other fats that are solid at 4 degrees
fahrenheit.
>
>
> Then retest.
>
In about 6-8 weeks.
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Don't like the margarines or any other fats that are solid at 4 degrees
> fahrenheit.
All edible fats are solid at 4F. Even 4C is refrigerator temperature
and would cause almost all fats and oils to congeal.
Butter liquefies at about 90F or 32C.
A typo?
Pastorio
Since I left out a lot of other information here it is:
I am 41 years old,
I am on a beta blocker, Tenormin, to control high BP for the past
several years. It has worked wonders on my BP, plus I do a lot of
speaking in front of large audiences and it helps with the jitters.
My father did his first stress test and it came back positive for some
blockage, he it to undergo further studies where they inject the dye
around the heart and look at the veins. Possible angioplatsy(sp?) or
stent. He is now on Plavix, a beta blocker, and nitro until the
procedure. He has never had high cholesterol. So now I guess I have
some history.
I am 6 foot 5, very broad shouldered and weight in at 270. My BMI had
never made sense for me, I asked my doctor and she said since I have
such a large frame the BMI for does not come out right.
For the past several years, I did not pay attention to what I ate, now
I do. I am trying to eat very low fat and carbo, lots of veggies and
fruit., I had way too much fat in my diet, and now I am changing
that.
My exercise has been sporadic the last few years. I mountain bike and
go to a fitness club. Besides working full time I am also in graduate
school and have a family with 2 small kids. Its hard to find time.
I do drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
This recent blood test was the second one my doctor ordered, the
previous one about 6 months ago showed my triglycerides at 335. They
have come down to 235. My total cholesterol have always hovered just
under 200.
I was thinking a small dose of a statin like Lipitor or zocor, plus
lifestyle changes would be the most beneficial. Maybe I will talk with
my doctor about other options as well. She has warned me that I should
go on medication to lower triglycerides & LDL, and also raise my HDL.
I was wondering if a person does have a build up of fat in the veins,
does treatment consist of preventing any further build up or does it
just stop and further build up. In other words are the affects
somewhat reversible.
Thank you all for your comments,
Robert Kershaw
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<cardiologist@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Robert Kershaw wrote:
>
>> I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
>> HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
>>
>> I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
>> options including medications.
>>
>> I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
>>
>
>What about losing weight if you are overweight?
>
>What is your height and weight, anyway?
>
>>
>> Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
>>
>
>Depends on whether you have MetS.
>
>>
>> Thank You for your help,
>> --RSK
>
>You are welcome.
>
>Humbly,
>
>Andrew
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:25:44 GMT, Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net>
wrote:
> Since I left out a lot of other information here it is:
>
> I am 41 years old,
>
> I am on a beta blocker, Tenormin, to control high BP for the past
> several years. It has worked wonders on my BP, plus I do a lot of
> speaking in front of large audiences and it helps with the jitters.
>
> My father did his first stress test and it came back positive for some
> blockage, he it to undergo further studies where they inject the dye
> around the heart and look at the veins. Possible angioplatsy(sp?) or
> stent. He is now on Plavix, a beta blocker, and nitro until the
> procedure. He has never had high cholesterol. So now I guess I have
> some history.
>
> I am 6 foot 5, very broad shouldered and weight in at 270. My BMI had
> never made sense for me, I asked my doctor and she said since I have
> such a large frame the BMI for does not come out right.
>
> For the past several years, I did not pay attention to what I ate, now
> I do. I am trying to eat very low fat and carbo, lots of veggies and
> fruit., I had way too much fat in my diet, and now I am changing
> that.
>
> My exercise has been sporadic the last few years. I mountain bike and
> go to a fitness club. Besides working full time I am also in graduate
> school and have a family with 2 small kids. Its hard to find time.
>
> I do drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
>
> This recent blood test was the second one my doctor ordered, the
> previous one about 6 months ago showed my triglycerides at 335. They
> have come down to 235. My total cholesterol have always hovered just
> under 200.
>
> I was thinking a small dose of a statin like Lipitor or zocor, plus
> lifestyle changes would be the most beneficial. Maybe I will talk with
> my doctor about other options as well. She has warned me that I should
> go on medication to lower triglycerides & LDL, and also raise my HDL.
>
> I was wondering if a person does have a build up of fat in the veins,
> does treatment consist of preventing any further build up or does it
> just stop and further build up. In other words are the affects
> somewhat reversible.
Robert,
I had been planning on starting a topic that 1. explains what
atherosclerosis is and why it is important, using histology slides during
the discussion. 2. how atherosclerosis is reversible, with histology slides
to serve as visuals, and many other tools to convey more information about
this process. You and another gentleman are asking very similar questions
(if you have been following my posts on MIBI scans, you already know this).
This forum discussion/presentation on the web will be similar to one I am
scheduled to give at Wild Oats Market in Kansas City, Jan 6.
http://www.wildoats.com
The open discussion will begin early Monday morning on my website
http://www.sonoscore.com and last for as long as people have questions.
For all others interested, you are all welcome to attend. A chat room is
available on the site, and a session can be started by anyone wanting to do
so, at any time. I have been wanting to share histology slides and examples
on SMC, but I was told it is not possible.
Hope to see you and others there. I would suggest anyone wanting to join in
to register and take advantage of the forum - it is free for anyone wanting
to use it. You might spend some of your spare time on the forum this
weekend, practicing how to use chat and uploading files you wish to share
with others.
Regards,
--
~~~
Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
Board Certified in Family Practice
http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
~~~
SonoScore
Winning against heart attack and stroke
http://www.sonoscore.com
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Robert Kershaw wrote:
> Since I left out a lot of other information here it is:
>
> I am 41 years old,
>
> I am on a beta blocker, Tenormin, to control high BP for the past
> several years. It has worked wonders on my BP, plus I do a lot of
> speaking in front of large audiences and it helps with the jitters.
>
> My father did his first stress test and it came back positive for some
> blockage, he it to undergo further studies where they inject the dye
> around the heart and look at the veins. Possible angioplatsy(sp?) or
> stent. He is now on Plavix, a beta blocker, and nitro until the
> procedure. He has never had high cholesterol. So now I guess I have
> some history.
>
> I am 6 foot 5, very broad shouldered and weight in at 270.
Too much, nonetheless.
> My BMI had
> never made sense for me, I asked my doctor and she said since I have
> such a large frame the BMI for does not come out right.
>
Sounds like your doctor is reluctant about saying you are overweight. I do
not understand this. However, Dr. Blanchard seems to have sentiments similar
to your doctor's.
See:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
>
> For the past several years, I did not pay attention to what I ate, now
> I do. I am trying to eat very low fat and carbo, lots of veggies and
> fruit., I had way too much fat in my diet, and now I am changing
> that.
>
> My exercise has been sporadic the last few years. I mountain bike and
> go to a fitness club. Besides working full time I am also in graduate
> school and have a family with 2 small kids. Its hard to find time.
>
> I do drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
>
> This recent blood test was the second one my doctor ordered, the
> previous one about 6 months ago showed my triglycerides at 335. They
> have come down to 235.
Still too high for someone who probably has metabolic syndrome (MetS).
> My total cholesterol have always hovered just
> under 200.
>
> I was thinking a small dose of a statin like Lipitor or zocor, plus
> lifestyle changes would be the most beneficial. Maybe I will talk with
> my doctor about other options as well. She has warned me that I should
> go on medication to lower triglycerides & LDL, and also raise my HDL.
>
That would happen even without medications if you choose to lose weight.
>
> I was wondering if a person does have a build up of fat in the veins,
You probably mean arteries (ie atherosclerosis)
>
> does treatment consist of preventing any further build up or does it
> just stop and further build up. In other words are the affects
> somewhat reversible.
They are reversible.
>
>
> Thank you all for your comments,
>
You are welcome :-)
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bob Pastorio wrote:
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Don't like the margarines or any other fats that are solid at 4 degrees
> > fahrenheit.
>
> All edible fats are solid at 4F.
Oops. Sorry, I meant 4 degrees centigrade.
> Even 4C is refrigerator temperature
> and would cause almost all fats and oils to congeal.
>
Don't like the ones that are solid.
>
> Butter liquefies at about 90F or 32C.
>
Don't like butter.
>
> A typo?
>
Yes. Sorry about that.
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"Patrick Blanchard, M.D." wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:25:44 GMT, Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Since I left out a lot of other information here it is:
> >
> > I am 41 years old,
> >
> > I am on a beta blocker, Tenormin, to control high BP for the past
> > several years. It has worked wonders on my BP, plus I do a lot of
> > speaking in front of large audiences and it helps with the jitters.
> >
> > My father did his first stress test and it came back positive for some
> > blockage, he it to undergo further studies where they inject the dye
> > around the heart and look at the veins. Possible angioplatsy(sp?) or
> > stent. He is now on Plavix, a beta blocker, and nitro until the
> > procedure. He has never had high cholesterol. So now I guess I have
> > some history.
> >
> > I am 6 foot 5, very broad shouldered and weight in at 270. My BMI had
> > never made sense for me, I asked my doctor and she said since I have
> > such a large frame the BMI for does not come out right.
> >
> > For the past several years, I did not pay attention to what I ate, now
> > I do. I am trying to eat very low fat and carbo, lots of veggies and
> > fruit., I had way too much fat in my diet, and now I am changing
> > that.
> >
> > My exercise has been sporadic the last few years. I mountain bike and
> > go to a fitness club. Besides working full time I am also in graduate
> > school and have a family with 2 small kids. Its hard to find time.
> >
> > I do drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
> >
> > This recent blood test was the second one my doctor ordered, the
> > previous one about 6 months ago showed my triglycerides at 335. They
> > have come down to 235. My total cholesterol have always hovered just
> > under 200.
> >
> > I was thinking a small dose of a statin like Lipitor or zocor, plus
> > lifestyle changes would be the most beneficial. Maybe I will talk with
> > my doctor about other options as well. She has warned me that I should
> > go on medication to lower triglycerides & LDL, and also raise my HDL.
> >
> > I was wondering if a person does have a build up of fat in the veins,
> > does treatment consist of preventing any further build up or does it
> > just stop and further build up. In other words are the affects
> > somewhat reversible.
>
> Robert,
>
> I had been planning on starting a topic that 1. explains what
> atherosclerosis is and why it is important, using histology slides during
> the discussion. 2. how atherosclerosis is reversible, with histology slides
> to serve as visuals, and many other tools to convey more information about
> this process. You and another gentleman are asking very similar questions
> (if you have been following my posts on MIBI scans, you already know this).
>
> This forum discussion/presentation on the web will be similar to one I am
> scheduled to give at Wild Oats Market in Kansas City, Jan 6.
>
> http://www.wildoats.com
>
> The open discussion will begin early Monday morning on my website
> http://www.sonoscore.com and last for as long as people have questions.
January 6 is a Tuesday, Patrick.
>
>
> For all others interested, you are all welcome to attend. A chat room is
> available on the site, and a session can be started by anyone wanting to do
> so, at any time. I have been wanting to share histology slides and examples
> on SMC, but I was told it is not possible.
>
> Hope to see you and others there. I would suggest anyone wanting to join in
> to register and take advantage of the forum - it is free for anyone wanting
> to use it. You might spend some of your spare time on the forum this
> weekend, practicing how to use chat and uploading files you wish to share
> with others.
What is your "mission statement" for this?
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:47:21 GMT, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> What is your "mission statement" for this?
>
http://tinyurl.com/y004
--
~~~
Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
Board Certified in Family Practice
http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
~~~
SonoScore
Winning against heart attack and stroke
http://www.sonoscore.com
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>>Don't like the margarines or any other fats that are solid at 4 degrees
>>>fahrenheit.
>>
>>All edible fats are solid at 4F.
>
> Oops. Sorry, I meant 4 degrees centigrade.
>
>>Even 4C is refrigerator temperature
>>and would cause almost all fats and oils to congeal.
>>
> Don't like the ones that are solid.
I don't understand. Is your reference to margarines or natural oils
like coconut oil?
Olive oil will solidify at 4C, as will most culinary oils.
Which oils are you referring to that you like? I assume you're using
the ratios of sat and unsat and polyunsat versus mono unsat as indices.
Pastorio
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"Patrick Blanchard, M.D." wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:47:21 GMT, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > What is your "mission statement" for this?
> >
> http://tinyurl.com/y004
> --
> ~~~
> Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
> Board Certified in Family Practice
> http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
> ~~~
> SonoScore
> Winning against heart attack and stroke
> http://www.sonoscore.com
That's interesting, Patrick.
There's probably at least 180 million people here in the U.S. over the
age of 35 years old.
180 million times $375.00 comes out to $67.5 billion dollars for
atherosclerosis screening using a test that can be positive in infants
(ie significant false positive rate).
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
Why does it seam most cardiologists disklike the Beam Tomography testing so
much? My doctor shook his head when he found out I got this test. Shouldn't
someone be concerned if they score high on these tests? If you have multiple
risk factors, isn't it wise to get a test like this?
Frank
"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:3FD23385.C2E0E428@heartmdphd.com...
> "Patrick Blanchard, M.D." wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:47:21 GMT, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is your "mission statement" for this?
> > >
> > http://tinyurl.com/y004
> > --
> > ~~~
> > Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
> > Board Certified in Family Practice
> > http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
> > ~~~
> > SonoScore
> > Winning against heart attack and stroke
> > http://www.sonoscore.com
>
> That's interesting, Patrick.
>
> There's probably at least 180 million people here in the U.S. over the
> age of 35 years old.
>
> 180 million times $375.00 comes out to $67.5 billion dollars for
> atherosclerosis screening using a test that can be positive in infants
> (ie significant false positive rate).
>
> Humbly,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
> http://www.heartmdphd.com/
>
>
Robert,
Oops! You've got metabolic syndrome. Your high BP (without meds)
confirms it. Read up on it from the Cleveland Clinic:
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3000/3057.asp?index=10783
Re: low fat diet. No longer benefical. You need to change the types
of fat in your diet. See (from Harvard)
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats.html
Robert Kershaw <NOSPAM_kg4asz@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<qr32tv4b0flt4phb5el77tdlmovm4mb63e@4ax.com>...
> Since I left out a lot of other information here it is:
>
> I am 41 years old,
>
> I am on a beta blocker, Tenormin, to control high BP for the past
> several years. It has worked wonders on my BP, plus I do a lot of
> speaking in front of large audiences and it helps with the jitters.
>
> My father did his first stress test and it came back positive for some
> blockage, he it to undergo further studies where they inject the dye
> around the heart and look at the veins. Possible angioplatsy(sp?) or
> stent. He is now on Plavix, a beta blocker, and nitro until the
> procedure. He has never had high cholesterol. So now I guess I have
> some history.
>
> I am 6 foot 5, very broad shouldered and weight in at 270. My BMI had
> never made sense for me, I asked my doctor and she said since I have
> such a large frame the BMI for does not come out right.
>
> For the past several years, I did not pay attention to what I ate, now
> I do. I am trying to eat very low fat and carbo, lots of veggies and
> fruit., I had way too much fat in my diet, and now I am changing
> that.
>
> My exercise has been sporadic the last few years. I mountain bike and
> go to a fitness club. Besides working full time I am also in graduate
> school and have a family with 2 small kids. Its hard to find time.
>
> I do drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day.
>
> This recent blood test was the second one my doctor ordered, the
> previous one about 6 months ago showed my triglycerides at 335. They
> have come down to 235. My total cholesterol have always hovered just
> under 200.
>
> I was thinking a small dose of a statin like Lipitor or zocor, plus
> lifestyle changes would be the most beneficial. Maybe I will talk with
> my doctor about other options as well. She has warned me that I should
> go on medication to lower triglycerides & LDL, and also raise my HDL.
>
> I was wondering if a person does have a build up of fat in the veins,
> does treatment consist of preventing any further build up or does it
> just stop and further build up. In other words are the affects
> somewhat reversible.
>
> Thank you all for your comments,
>
> Robert Kershaw
>
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <cardiologist@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Robert Kershaw wrote:
> >
> >> I just got my blood work results and I had Total C of 192, LDL of 150,
> >> HDL of 32, and triglyceride = 235.
> >>
> >> I am going to meet with my doctor in a few days to discuss treatment
> >> options including medications.
> >>
> >> I am in the process of changing my diet and exercising more.
> >>
> >
> >What about losing weight if you are overweight?
> >
> >What is your height and weight, anyway?
> >
> >>
> >> Any recommendations on medication for this blood profile?
> >>
> >
> >Depends on whether you have MetS.
> >
> >>
> >> Thank You for your help,
> >> --RSK
> >
> >You are welcome.
> >
> >Humbly,
> >
> >Andrew
Yes, it appears this test adds valuable info. See
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/64/72478.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_ln_06
"Frank" <fchern@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<l9ednah6o-bIxU-i4p2dnA@comcast.com>...
> Why does it seam most cardiologists disklike the Beam Tomography testing so
> much? My doctor shook his head when he found out I got this test. Shouldn't
> someone be concerned if they score high on these tests? If you have multiple
> risk factors, isn't it wise to get a test like this?
>
> Frank
>
>
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:3FD23385.C2E0E428@heartmdphd.com...
> > "Patrick Blanchard, M.D." wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:47:21 GMT, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is your "mission statement" for this?
> > > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/y004
> > > --
> > > ~~~
> > > Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
> > > Board Certified in Family Practice
> > > http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
> > > ~~~
> > > SonoScore
> > > Winning against heart attack and stroke
> > > http://www.sonoscore.com
> >
> > That's interesting, Patrick.
> >
> > There's probably at least 180 million people here in the U.S. over the
> > age of 35 years old.
> >
> > 180 million times $375.00 comes out to $67.5 billion dollars for
> > atherosclerosis screening using a test that can be positive in infants
> > (ie significant false positive rate).
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > http://www.heartmdphd.com/
> >
> >
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Measuring CIMT with ultrasound is not "Beam Tomography" (aka EBCT).
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
"Frank" <fchern@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<l9ednah6o-bIxU-i4p2dnA@comcast.com>...
> Why does it seam most cardiologists disklike the Beam Tomography testing so
> much? My doctor shook his head when he found out I got this test. Shouldn't
> someone be concerned if they score high on these tests? If you have multiple
> risk factors, isn't it wise to get a test like this?
>
> Frank
>
>
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:3FD23385.C2E0E428@heartmdphd.com...
> > "Patrick Blanchard, M.D." wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:47:21 GMT, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is your "mission statement" for this?
> > > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/y004
> > > --
> > > ~~~
> > > Patrick Blanchard, M.D., A.B.F.P.
> > > Board Certified in Family Practice
> > > http://www.familydoctor.org/blanchard
> > > ~~~
> > > SonoScore
> > > Winning against heart attack and stroke
> > > http://www.sonoscore.com
> >
> > That's interesting, Patrick.
> >
> > There's probably at least 180 million people here in the U.S. over the
> > age of 35 years old.
> >
> > 180 million times $375.00 comes out to $67.5 billion dollars for
> > atherosclerosis screening using a test that can be positive in infants
> > (ie significant false positive rate).
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > http://www.heartmdphd.com/
> >
> >
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bob Pastorio <pastorio@rica.net> wrote in message news:<vt41i0jlh8gjb5@corp.supernews.com>...
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> >
> >>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>Don't like the margarines or any other fats that are solid at 4 degrees
> >>>fahrenheit.
> >>
> >>All edible fats are solid at 4F.
> >
> > Oops. Sorry, I meant 4 degrees centigrade.
> >
> >>Even 4C is refrigerator temperature
> >>and would cause almost all fats and oils to congeal.
> >>
> > Don't like the ones that are solid.
>
> I don't understand. Is your reference to margarines or natural oils
> like coconut oil?
To oils that are truly solid at +4 deg C
> Olive oil will solidify at 4C, as will most culinary oils.
Olive oil is quite viscous at +4C. It is not solid.
> Which oils are you referring to that you like?
Oils that are not solid in the refrigerator.
> I assume you're using
> the ratios of sat and unsat and polyunsat versus mono unsat as indices.
>
> Pastorio
Saturated fats will have a tough time being liquid in the refrigerator.
Humbly,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com
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