stents

[Balsey]

Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [ mahara
chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was waiting
for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because of
radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the chest
are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus stent
in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the old
stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was calcified
and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that gives
me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your thoughts on
so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care Balsey

[Bill]

"Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [ mahara
> chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was waiting
> for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because of
> radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the chest
> are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus stent
> in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the old
> stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was calcified
> and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that gives
> me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your thoughts on
> so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care Balsey
>
>

I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit. You may have
been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous angioplasties
because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new drug eluting
stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents indicates
underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to continue
unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure what took 3
weeks.

BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have found Dr.
Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.

Bill - not a Dr.

[Herb]

Many people have more than 3 stents. I have 6.

--

Herb
Boulder, CO



"Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [
mahara
> chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
waiting
> for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because
of
> radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the
chest
> are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus
stent
> in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the
old
> stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
calcified
> and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that
gives
> me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your
thoughts on
> so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
Balsey
>
>

[Marc Schwartz]

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:26:20 +0000, Herb wrote:

> Many people have more than 3 stents. I have 6.
>


The problem is not that it cannot be done with drug eluting stents (DES),
the problems are:

1. The present Medicare reimbursement formula for the drug eluting stents
is based upon the use of 1.5 stents per patient. That figure evolved out
of the clinical trials where roughly 1.7 to 1.8 stents were used on
average per patient. Thus, if you get one stent, the hospital makes a
little money. If you get two or more stents, the hospital loses money.
The loss increases as the number of stents goes up, because the
reimbursement does not, it is fixed. The hospital essentially has to hope
that there are enough 1 stent patients to make up for those who get two or
more stents in order to "break even" financially. Under the current
formula, high volume hospitals have projected loses in the millions of
dollars until such time as competition drives down pricing. Keep in mind
also that the use of DES is increasingly at the expense of doing more
profitable CAB surgery, so the hospital loses financially on two levels as
CAB volume declines.

2. There is no substantive data at this point to understand what happens
when patients get a high number of drug eluting stents with respect to the
actual dosages of the drugs released by the stents. The trials
demonstrated safety for the doses delivered by 1 and 2 stents. There is no
hard data that I have seen yet published on potential drug related adverse
events when multiple (>2) drug eluting stents are used. In fact, the
present product labeling for the stents raises this issue as an unknown.

3. In conjunction with number 2 above, there is no hard data yet with
respect to what issues may arise when different drug eluting stents may be
used in the same patient. In other words, what happens if you should get a
Cypher stent (which uses sirolimus) and a Taxus stent (which uses
paclitaxel) at the same time. The recent preliminary decision by the FDA
to recommend the approval of the Taxus stent raised this issue, since
Taxus will be the second approved DES on the market.

4. There are general guidelines on the use of DES with respect to
lesion length, vessel diameter, de novo (new) lesions, the location of the
lesions and so forth. The use of DES will not be appropriate for all
lesion types.

The knowledge base on the use of DES is still evolving, both with respect
to the trial data and with respect to the post market surveillance of
general use outside of controlled trials.

Hope that helps,

Marc

[Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message news:<dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [ mahara
> > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was waiting
> > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because of
> > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the chest
> > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus stent
> > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the old
> > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was calcified
> > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that gives
> > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your thoughts on
> > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care Balsey
> >
> >
>
> I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit.

Correct.

> You may have
> been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous angioplasties
> because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new drug eluting
> stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents indicates
> underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to continue
> unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure what took 3
> weeks.

Smells like a fake post. Even if the internal mammary artery in the
left breast were unusable, the right one should be (not to mention the
veins in the legs).

> BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have found Dr.
> Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.

Thank you for writing truthfully :-)

> Bill - not a Dr.

Don't have to be a doctor to write truthfully. Perhaps the peanut
gallery will learn (probably not).

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

[Ivetriedhard]

I have 5.

[Balsey]

Sorry not a fake post if only it wasn't all true but i guess breast cancer
in the right breast would put a stop to them using the artery in the right
side also was told they couldnt use the veins in the leg . Have had double
mastecomy with radiation, 2 heart attacks 4 stents all true , that's why I
asked for only those that could help me Thank you Balsey"Dr. Andrew B.
Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:a4b1bd78.0312080925.53263f16@posting.google.com...
> "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
news:<dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [
mahara
> > > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
waiting
> > > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because
of
> > > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the
chest
> > > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus
stent
> > > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the
old
> > > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
calcified
> > > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that
gives
> > > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your
thoughts on
> > > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
Balsey
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit.
>
> Correct.
>
> > You may have
> > been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous
angioplasties
> > because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new drug
eluting
> > stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents
indicates
> > underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to
continue
> > unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure what
took 3
> > weeks.
>
> Smells like a fake post. Even if the internal mammary artery in the
> left breast were unusable, the right one should be (not to mention the
> veins in the legs).
>
> > BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have found
Dr.
> > Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.
>
> Thank you for writing truthfully :-)
>
> > Bill - not a Dr.
>
> Don't have to be a doctor to write truthfully. Perhaps the peanut
> gallery will learn (probably not).
>
> Humbly,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
> http://www.heartmdphd.com

[Balsey]

Bill , Have to tell you why it took 3 weeks they couldn't make up ther mind
between triple by- pass or stents also had to pay for my stents a few
thousand dollars up front . Angiograms are only done 2 days a week so if you
come in on thursday like me had to wait until tuesday for first one, then
wait until dr. made up there mind about op. another week finally 3rd week
stents Balsey
"Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
news:dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [
mahara
> > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
waiting
> > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because of
> > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the
chest
> > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus
stent
> > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the
old
> > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
calcified
> > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that
gives
> > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your thoughts
on
> > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
Balsey
> >
> >
>
> I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit. You may
have
> been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous
angioplasties
> because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new drug
eluting
> stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents
indicates
> underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to
continue
> unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure what
took 3
> weeks.
>
> BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have found
Dr.
> Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.
>
> Bill - not a Dr.
>
>

[Balsey]

Thank you Marc , I think the fact that I have diabetes makes the use of DES
appropriate as front artery was calcified, while the other stents have a 30%
chance of calcification the new stents only have 2 % thanks for your help
Balsey
"Marc Schwartz" <MSchwartz@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.08.17.08.56.372412@mn.rr.com...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:26:20 +0000, Herb wrote:
>
> > Many people have more than 3 stents. I have 6.
> >
>
>
> The problem is not that it cannot be done with drug eluting stents (DES),
> the problems are:
>
> 1. The present Medicare reimbursement formula for the drug eluting stents
> is based upon the use of 1.5 stents per patient. That figure evolved out
> of the clinical trials where roughly 1.7 to 1.8 stents were used on
> average per patient. Thus, if you get one stent, the hospital makes a
> little money. If you get two or more stents, the hospital loses money.
> The loss increases as the number of stents goes up, because the
> reimbursement does not, it is fixed. The hospital essentially has to hope
> that there are enough 1 stent patients to make up for those who get two or
> more stents in order to "break even" financially. Under the current
> formula, high volume hospitals have projected loses in the millions of
> dollars until such time as competition drives down pricing. Keep in mind
> also that the use of DES is increasingly at the expense of doing more
> profitable CAB surgery, so the hospital loses financially on two levels as
> CAB volume declines.
>
> 2. There is no substantive data at this point to understand what happens
> when patients get a high number of drug eluting stents with respect to the
> actual dosages of the drugs released by the stents. The trials
> demonstrated safety for the doses delivered by 1 and 2 stents. There is no
> hard data that I have seen yet published on potential drug related adverse
> events when multiple (>2) drug eluting stents are used. In fact, the
> present product labeling for the stents raises this issue as an unknown.
>
> 3. In conjunction with number 2 above, there is no hard data yet with
> respect to what issues may arise when different drug eluting stents may be
> used in the same patient. In other words, what happens if you should get a
> Cypher stent (which uses sirolimus) and a Taxus stent (which uses
> paclitaxel) at the same time. The recent preliminary decision by the FDA
> to recommend the approval of the Taxus stent raised this issue, since
> Taxus will be the second approved DES on the market.
>
> 4. There are general guidelines on the use of DES with respect to
> lesion length, vessel diameter, de novo (new) lesions, the location of the
> lesions and so forth. The use of DES will not be appropriate for all
> lesion types.
>
> The knowledge base on the use of DES is still evolving, both with respect
> to the trial data and with respect to the post market surveillance of
> general use outside of controlled trials.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Marc
>

[Bigjon]

Ivetriedhard declared:

> I have 5.

I have2, but I'm working on more...
LOL
--
You can't have it all....
Where would you put it anyway ??

[Balsey]

now now dont get greedy I only have 4 LOL Balsey
"Bigjon" <bigjon@NOSPAMtqfmail.com> wrote in message
news:1808ddqztd7ia$.8t6dvhl680gb$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Ivetriedhard declared:
>
> > I have 5.
>
> I have2, but I'm working on more...
> LOL
> --
> You can't have it all....
> Where would you put it anyway ??

[Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Balsey wrote:

> Sorry not a fake post if only it wasn't all true but i guess breast cancer
> in the right breast would put a stop to them using the artery in the right
> side also was told they couldnt use the veins in the leg .

Why are the veins not usable?

> Have had double
> mastecomy with radiation,

You did not mention that in your original post. You only described a left
masectomy and left breast XRT.

> 2 heart attacks 4 stents all true , that's why I
> asked for only those that could help me

According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian bias. Is
this true?

> Thank you Balsey

You are welcome.

Even if you are anti-Christian, I would still be inclined to try to help you.
However, the quality of that help will depend on your being forthcoming with the
pertinent issues in your condition.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com



> "Dr. Andrew B.
> Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:a4b1bd78.0312080925.53263f16@posting.google.com...
> > "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
> news:<dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > > > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [
> mahara
> > > > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
> waiting
> > > > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but because
> of
> > > > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in the
> chest
> > > > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new Texus
> stent
> > > > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and the
> old
> > > > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
> calcified
> > > > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so that
> gives
> > > > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your
> thoughts on
> > > > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
> Balsey
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit.
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> > > You may have
> > > been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous
> angioplasties
> > > because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new drug
> eluting
> > > stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents
> indicates
> > > underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to
> continue
> > > unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure what
> took 3
> > > weeks.
> >
> > Smells like a fake post. Even if the internal mammary artery in the
> > left breast were unusable, the right one should be (not to mention the
> > veins in the legs).
> >
> > > BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have found
> Dr.
> > > Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.
> >
> > Thank you for writing truthfully :-)
> >
> > > Bill - not a Dr.
> >
> > Don't have to be a doctor to write truthfully. Perhaps the peanut
> > gallery will learn (probably not).
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > http://www.heartmdphd.com

[Balsey]

I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion
no I am not anti christian but what has that got to do with me asking about
my stents. I really didn't want to tell every body that I have had breast
cancer in both breasts, as this is a cardiology group and the fact that I
have been to hell in the last 2 years battling cancer and wondering when
will I have another heart attack seems to be irrelevant to you all , if
there is anything else you would like to know just ask in the meantime thank
you to those that have helped and I hope and pray that you or some-one close
to you doesn't go through what I have .
Balsey Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
in message news:7048bf80ca596021b6ac52414debb424@news.teranews.com...
> Balsey wrote:
>
> > Sorry not a fake post if only it wasn't all true but i guess breast
cancer
> > in the right breast would put a stop to them using the artery in the
right
> > side also was told they couldnt use the veins in the leg .
>
> Why are the veins not usable?
>
> > Have had double
> > mastecomy with radiation,
>
> You did not mention that in your original post. You only described a left
> masectomy and left breast XRT.
>
> > 2 heart attacks 4 stents all true , that's why I
> > asked for only those that could help me
>
> According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian
bias. Is
> this true?
>
> > Thank you Balsey
>
> You are welcome.
>
> Even if you are anti-Christian, I would still be inclined to try to help
you.
> However, the quality of that help will depend on your being forthcoming
with the
> pertinent issues in your condition.
>
> Humbly,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-Certified Cardiologist
> http://www.heartmdphd.com
>
>
>
> > "Dr. Andrew B.
> > Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:a4b1bd78.0312080925.53263f16@posting.google.com...
> > > "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
> > news:<dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > > "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > > > > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others
[
> > mahara
> > > > > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
> > waiting
> > > > > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but
because
> > of
> > > > > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in
the
> > chest
> > > > > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new
Texus
> > stent
> > > > > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and
the
> > old
> > > > > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
> > calcified
> > > > > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so
that
> > gives
> > > > > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your
> > thoughts on
> > > > > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
> > Balsey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit.
> > >
> > > Correct.
> > >
> > > > You may have
> > > > been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous
> > angioplasties
> > > > because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new
drug
> > eluting
> > > > stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents
> > indicates
> > > > underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to
> > continue
> > > > unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure
what
> > took 3
> > > > weeks.
> > >
> > > Smells like a fake post. Even if the internal mammary artery in the
> > > left breast were unusable, the right one should be (not to mention the
> > > veins in the legs).
> > >
> > > > BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have
found
> > Dr.
> > > > Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.
> > >
> > > Thank you for writing truthfully :-)
> > >
> > > > Bill - not a Dr.
> > >
> > > Don't have to be a doctor to write truthfully. Perhaps the peanut
> > > gallery will learn (probably not).
> > >
> > > Humbly,
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > > http://www.heartmdphd.com
>
>
>
>

[Bogie]

This info is true. My cardio would only put 1 medicated stent in. He
said the community does not have enough info on what the med would do
to a person. I take the med, Rapamune orally, to stop the growth of
scar tissue inside my arteries and veins. nasty stuff so far
but......I PRAY it works. Good luck. I have 8 stents, 7 reg and 1
medicated.Please and thanx, Bogie









Marc Schwartz <MSchwartz@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.08.17.08.56.372412@mn.rr.com>...
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:26:20 +0000, Herb wrote:
>
> > Many people have more than 3 stents. I have 6.
> >
>
>
> The problem is not that it cannot be done with drug eluting stents (DES),
> the problems are:
>
> 1. The present Medicare reimbursement formula for the drug eluting stents
> is based upon the use of 1.5 stents per patient. That figure evolved out
> of the clinical trials where roughly 1.7 to 1.8 stents were used on
> average per patient. Thus, if you get one stent, the hospital makes a
> little money. If you get two or more stents, the hospital loses money.
> The loss increases as the number of stents goes up, because the
> reimbursement does not, it is fixed. The hospital essentially has to hope
> that there are enough 1 stent patients to make up for those who get two or
> more stents in order to "break even" financially. Under the current
> formula, high volume hospitals have projected loses in the millions of
> dollars until such time as competition drives down pricing. Keep in mind
> also that the use of DES is increasingly at the expense of doing more
> profitable CAB surgery, so the hospital loses financially on two levels as
> CAB volume declines.
>
> 2. There is no substantive data at this point to understand what happens
> when patients get a high number of drug eluting stents with respect to the
> actual dosages of the drugs released by the stents. The trials
> demonstrated safety for the doses delivered by 1 and 2 stents. There is no
> hard data that I have seen yet published on potential drug related adverse
> events when multiple (>2) drug eluting stents are used. In fact, the
> present product labeling for the stents raises this issue as an unknown.
>
> 3. In conjunction with number 2 above, there is no hard data yet with
> respect to what issues may arise when different drug eluting stents may be
> used in the same patient. In other words, what happens if you should get a
> Cypher stent (which uses sirolimus) and a Taxus stent (which uses
> paclitaxel) at the same time. The recent preliminary decision by the FDA
> to recommend the approval of the Taxus stent raised this issue, since
> Taxus will be the second approved DES on the market.
>
> 4. There are general guidelines on the use of DES with respect to
> lesion length, vessel diameter, de novo (new) lesions, the location of the
> lesions and so forth. The use of DES will not be appropriate for all
> lesion types.
>
> The knowledge base on the use of DES is still evolving, both with respect
> to the trial data and with respect to the post market surveillance of
> general use outside of controlled trials.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Marc

[mattb@sorbet.nothere]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:49:40 GMT, "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
>Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion

Don't take it personally. Chung is our resident paranoid, and sees
anti christians everywhere. He gets information about your religion by
making it up. When challenged, he says he "knows the truth." Logic or
other information will not sway his beliefs, even when they are wrong.
Only HE knows the truth. Just ask him. <grin>

Please don't judge the group be the behavior of Chung.

>no I am not anti christian but what has that got to do with me asking about
>my stents.

Nothing, unless you're Chung.

>I really didn't want to tell every body that I have had breast
>cancer in both breasts, as this is a cardiology group

You really didn't have to do that. Chung asks many people to reveal
very personal information, much of which, like your religion, is not
relevant.

>and the fact that I
>have been to hell in the last 2 years battling cancer and wondering when
>will I have another heart attack seems to be irrelevant to you all ,

No it's not. Some of us truly care about our fellow humans. Chung
claims very loudly that he cares, but in fact treats those who he does
not like quite badly, as you are starting to learn from your
interaction with him.

>in the meantime thank
>you to those that have helped and I hope and pray that you or some-one close
>to you doesn't go through what I have .

I would hope so too. I do hope things will get better for you.
Matt

[Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

"Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:<3fd57e93@news.comindico.com.au>...
> I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
> Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion

From Google:

http://tinyurl.com/yg2s

> no I am not anti christian but what has that got to do with me asking about
> my stents.

It helps me understand your motive and bias. It also helps me
understand why you did not want me to respond to your questions.

> I really didn't want to tell every body that I have had breast
> cancer in both breasts,

This is Usenet. You could always use an anonymous Usenet account if
you value your privacy.

> as this is a cardiology group and the fact that I
> have been to hell in the last 2 years battling cancer and wondering when
> will I have another heart attack seems to be irrelevant to you all ,

Your emotions are understandable.

> if
> there is anything else you would like to know just ask

I have. For example, I did ask "Why are the leg veins unusable?"

> in the meantime thank
> you to those that have helped and I hope and pray that you or some-one close
> to you doesn't go through what I have .

What are your risk factors for having another heart attack?

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com



> Balsey Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> in message news:7048bf80ca596021b6ac52414debb424@news.teranews.com...
> > Balsey wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry not a fake post if only it wasn't all true but i guess breast
> cancer
> > > in the right breast would put a stop to them using the artery in the
> right
> > > side also was told they couldnt use the veins in the leg .
> >
> > Why are the veins not usable?
> >
> > > Have had double
> > > mastecomy with radiation,
> >
> > You did not mention that in your original post. You only described a left
> > masectomy and left breast XRT.
> >
> > > 2 heart attacks 4 stents all true , that's why I
> > > asked for only those that could help me
> >
> > According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian
> bias. Is
> > this true?
> >
> > > Thank you Balsey
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > Even if you are anti-Christian, I would still be inclined to try to help
> you.
> > However, the quality of that help will depend on your being forthcoming
> with the
> > pertinent issues in your condition.
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > http://www.heartmdphd.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Dr. Andrew B.
> > > Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > > news:a4b1bd78.0312080925.53263f16@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> wrote in message
> news:<dLWAb.39237$jl2.12633@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > > > "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3fd416ac@news.comindico.com.au...
> > > > > > Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others
> [
> mahara
> > > > > > chung] go away . have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was
> waiting
> > > > > > for results of angiogram dr.wanted to do a triple by-pass but
> because
> of
> > > > > > radiation treament to left breast through cancer the arteries in
> the
> chest
> > > > > > are damaged and they couldn't use them , so I have had the new
> Texus
> stent
> > > > > > in the left arterery which was 98% blocked and the texus stent and
> the
> old
> > > > > > stent in the main artery in front of heart 2 in all as artery was
> calcified
> > > > > > and started to break away , also have stent in right artery , so
> that
> gives
> > > > > > me 4 stents . I am a little worried with all this what are your
> thoughts on
> > > > > > so many stents , I thought you could only have 3 all up. Take Care
> Balsey
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think theoretically you can have as many stents as will fit.
> > > >
> > > > Correct.
> > > >
> > > > > You may have
> > > > > been thinking about a reluctance to do 3 or more simultaneous
> angioplasties
> > > > > because of the high probability of restenosous. But with the new
> drug
> eluting
> > > > > stents that may even be going by the boards. However, so many stents
> indicates
> > > > > underlying problems causing these difficulties and that is likely to
> continue
> > > > > unless the underlying problems are dealt with. Also, I'm not sure
> what
> took 3
> > > > > weeks.
> > > >
> > > > Smells like a fake post. Even if the internal mammary artery in the
> > > > left breast were unusable, the right one should be (not to mention the
> > > > veins in the legs).
> > > >
> > > > > BTW though he certainly inflames passions on some subjects, I have
> found
> Dr.
> > > > > Chung's medical advice to be consistently sound.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for writing truthfully :-)
> > > >
> > > > > Bill - not a Dr.
> > > >
> > > > Don't have to be a doctor to write truthfully. Perhaps the peanut
> > > > gallery will learn (probably not).
> > > >
> > > > Humbly,
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> > > > http://www.heartmdphd.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

[Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:49:40 GMT, "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
> >Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion
>
> <anti-christian hissing from the peanut gallery snipped>

You'll know the truth when you die, neighbor.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

[mattb@sorbet.nothere]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:40:50 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

>mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:49:40 GMT, "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
>> >Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion
>>
>> <anti-christian hissing from the peanut gallery snipped>

I'm a devout christian. Looks like you got two out of two wrong just
in this one thread.

>You'll know the truth when you die, neighbor.

I know absolute truth, just as well as you do.

>Humbly,

Using some Chunglish here, no doubt. <grin>
Matt

[Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:40:50 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:49:40 GMT, "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
> >> >Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion
> >>
> >> <anti-christian hissing from the peanut gallery snipped>
>
> I'm a devout christian.

Would know it from your writings.

> Looks like you got two out of two wrong just
> in this one thread.
>

I write truthfully.

>
> >You'll know the truth when you die, neighbor.
>
> I know absolute truth, just as well as you do.
>

Have you accepted Christ into your heart as your Lord and Savior?

>
> >Humbly,
>
> Using some Chunglish here, no doubt. <grin>
> Matt

If you say so... it is your language.

Humble servant of Christ,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

[mattb@sorbet.nothere]

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:39:12 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

>mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:40:50 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >mattb@sorbet.nothere wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:49:40 GMT, "Balsey" <valjw@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I really dont know why I bothered asking something of this group , tell me
>> >> >Dr. Chung where on earth did you get your information concerning my religion
>> >>
>> >> <anti-christian hissing from the peanut gallery snipped>
>>
>> I'm a devout christian.
>
>Would know it from your writings.

Good. I'm glad you agree that I'm a devout christian. "I'm a devout
christian." WAS my writing.

>> Looks like you got two out of two wrong just
>> in this one thread.
>>
>
>I write truthfully.

So do I. I know absolute truth, just as well as you do.

>> >You'll know the truth when you die, neighbor.
>>
>> I know absolute truth, just as well as you do.
>>
>
>Have you accepted Christ into your heart as your Lord and Savior?

I'm a devout christian. Going beyond that is off topic for this group.
I will NOT feed your troll on this.

>> >Humbly,
>>
>> Using some Chunglish here, no doubt. <grin>
>> Matt
>
>If you say so...

Good. I'm glad you agree that it's Chunglish.
Matt