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Henry
  
Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?

--
ie "ride fast, take chances"

Daniel Lieb
  
nope. Lance has been doing this for years.

henry wrote:

> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?
>
> --
> ie "ride fast, take chances"

Mack Mad
  
"henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:zq1Ta.98095$TJ.5853281@twister.austin.rr.com...
> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?
>
>
> --
> ie "ride fast, take chances"
>
>

Where have you been?

rebot
  
>Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?

Just you have. Lance always uses a DT shifter for the front der on mountain stages. Old - like
years - news.

Henry
  
okay, I'm an idiot......

"Daniel Lieb" <"["@[.ap> wrote in message news:AL1Ta.275997$_w.10437648@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> nope. Lance has been doing this for years.
>
> henry wrote:
>
> > Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's
front
> > der?
> >
> > --
> > ie "ride fast, take chances"

Henry
  
This is the first year in 8 that I didn't have a day job that kept me working day and night. No more
80 hours a week--I'm actually getting a life again....

"Mack Mad" <dsgnwrks@cinci.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JO1Ta.398$E17.116@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>
> "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:zq1Ta.98095$TJ.5853281@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's
front
> > der?
> >
> >
> > --
> > ie "ride fast, take chances"
> >
> >
>
> Where have you been?

Jjr071160
  
Probably less weight, less mechanically to go wrong (you know Shimano and their fine cleat
system) and doesn't use it that often - with 10 cogs in the back less need to change chainrings
as often (IMO).

On 21-Jul-2003, "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?

--

Stewart Fleming
  
Daniel Lieb wrote:
> nope. Lance has been doing this for years.

Pity he didn't do the same with the rear shifter.

Roger Bogda
  
Ahhh... a fellow curmudgeon!

Roger B

"Stewart Fleming" <drmofe@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3F1CBE3C.4050802@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Daniel Lieb wrote:
> > nope. Lance has been doing this for years.
>
> Pity he didn't do the same with the rear shifter.

Steve@Printemp.
  
On 7/21/03 8:38 PM, in article 3f1cb11b_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com, "jjr071160"
<JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote:

> Probably less weight, less mechanically to go wrong (you know Shimano and their fine cleat
> system) and doesn't use it that often - with 10 cogs in the back less need to change chainrings
> as often (IMO).
>
> On 21-Jul-2003, "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?
>

Watch Lance come across the finish line! I am "positive" when he loosens up on the bars his
"right" DA STI shifter "dangles" very loosly back and forth. Since his bike fell that way it must
have broke.

Look at the finish on tape!!!

Roger Bogda
  
Wouldn't have happened with a downtube shifter!

Roger B <steve@printemp.net> wrote in message news:BB421CE0.4BDA0%steve@printemp.net...
> On 7/21/03 8:38 PM, in article 3f1cb11b_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com, "jjr071160"
> <JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote:
>
> > Probably less weight, less mechanically to go wrong (you know Shimano
and
> > their fine cleat system) and doesn't use it that often - with 10 cogs in
the
> > back less need to change chainrings as often (IMO).
> >
> > On 21-Jul-2003, "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's
front
> >> der?
> >
>
>
> Watch Lance come across the finish line! I am "positive" when he loosens up on the bars his
> "right" DA STI shifter "dangles" very loosly back and forth. Since his bike fell that way it must
> have broke.
>
> Look at the finish on tape!!!

Raptor
  
henry wrote:
> This is the first year in 8 that I didn't have a day job that kept me working day and night. No
> more 80 hours a week--I'm actually getting a life again....

If they're going to do that to you, get a cheap TV/VCR combo for your office/bench, tape the stage
in the morning (or evening), and watch it there. That's what I did.

They'll lay you off anyway, so screw it.

--
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we
could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

David Off
  
"henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UU1Ta.98158$TJ.5864819@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> This is the first year in 8 that I didn't have a day job that kept me working day and night. No
> more 80 hours a week--I'm actually getting a life again....
>

The benefits of the tech sector recession...

Qui Si Parla Ca
  
henry-<< Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der? >><BR><BR>

on the left side of the down tube, like others...probqably to micro tune the shimano front der, when
they go big-ish big-ish, ring and cog...they don't have to worry about wearing stuff out but don't
like chain rub on the front der...

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com (http://www.vecchios.com/) "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Dieter Buerssne
  
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

> on the left side of the down tube, like others...probqably to micro tune the shimano front der,
> when they go big-ish big-ish, ring and cog...they don't have to worry about wearing stuff out but
> don't like chain rub on the front der...

Pantani used such a setup in mountain stages with his Campagnolo equipped bike. See for example the
2nd picture on http://www.campyonly.com/marcobike.html

Dieter

Warren
  
In article <BB421CE0.4BDA0%steve@printemp.net>, <"steve@printemp.net"> wrote:

> Watch Lance come across the finish line! I am "positive" when he loosens up on the bars his
> "right" DA STI shifter "dangles" very loosly back and forth. Since his bike fell that way it must
> have broke.
>
> Look at the finish on tape!!!

It's easy to see that Lance was merely moving the lever to shift into a lower gear after the finish
line. Notice how he moves it twice to shift two times.

-WG

Dirtroadie
  
"henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:<zq1Ta.98095$TJ.5853281@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?

We?

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&frame=right-
&th=212a64b072a94619&seekm=8khrg5%24g0s%241%40nnrp1.deja.com#link1

DR

Kurgan Gringion
  
"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <vecchio51@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030722084553.02382.00000344@mb-m21.aol.com...
> henry-<< Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for
Lance's
> front der? >><BR><BR>
>
> on the left side of the down tube, like others...probqably to micro tune
the
> shimano front der, when they go big-ish big-ish, ring and cog...they don't
have
> to worry about wearing stuff out but don't like chain rub on the front
der...

USPS gets plenty of stuff from shimano - no need to worry about wearing things out.

They do it to save weight.

Henry
  
A thousand pardons....I guess I should have been more clear--

I was speaking for my spouse and I who are watching the tour coverage together....perhaps I should
refrain from posting in fear of offending the group...

ie

"DirtRoadie" <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c6661314.0307220848.3508e9b9@posting.google.com...
> "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<zq1Ta.98095$TJ.5853281@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> > Have we been asleep...what's with the downtube shifter for Lance's front der?
>
> We?
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&frame=right-
&th=212a64b072a94619&seekm=8khrg5%24g0s%241%40nnrp1.deja.com#link1
>
> DR

Henry
  
fortunately I did it on my terms--told them to shove it.........much better now!

ie

"David Off" <david.off@voila.fr> wrote in message
news:de30ee00.0307220416.33e1e70b@posting.google.com...
> "henry" <old@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<UU1Ta.98158$TJ.5864819@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> > This is the first year in 8 that I didn't have a day job that kept me working day and night. No
> > more 80 hours a week--I'm actually getting a
life
> > again....
> >
>
> The benefits of the tech sector recession...

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