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Non-Tour question: my power output
I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a century
where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
How good a racer "should" I be? I won't be a good climber any time soon, being the same height as
LANCE and weighing 40 lbs more.
My conditioning is still fragile. I haven't had a chance to do speed work, so I assume that I'll
still get dropped easily. And I know that those exercise machines aren't bikes and so can't be
compared directly, so I'm just interested in WAGs. Still working on the smoking too, damn things.
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If you can hold 300 watts for an hour you *should* be able to do a 40km TT in an hour. Unless you
have really bad aerodynamics.
>I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
>reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
>century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
"Raptor" <me@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3F1CB0CD.2030206@attbi.com...
> I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>
> I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
> reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
> century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
>
> How good a racer "should" I be? I won't be a good climber any time soon, being the same height as
> LANCE and weighing 40 lbs more.
>
> My conditioning is still fragile. I haven't had a chance to do speed work, so I assume that I'll
> still get dropped easily. And I know that those exercise machines aren't bikes and so can't be
> compared directly, so I'm just interested in WAGs. Still working on the smoking too, damn things.
>
> --
> --
> Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we
> could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP
> in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.
>
How much do you weigh? That value can be used to estimate steady state but not racing. I would take
a very wild guess that you can train to become a 4 if you are 180 and maybe a 3 if you train a lot
and lose 10 pounds. This assume a bunch including a "normal" response to speed work. (IIRC you
stated that youa re 180).
"Raptor" <me@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3F1CB0CD.2030206@attbi.com...
> I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>
> I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
> reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
> century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
Watts your average wattage output for an hour?
Dashii
In article <3F1CB0CD.2030206@attbi.com>, Raptor <me@attbi.com> wrote:
> I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>
> I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
> reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
> century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
>
> How good a racer "should" I be? I won't be a good climber any time soon, being the same height as
> LANCE and weighing 40 lbs more.
>
> My conditioning is still fragile. I haven't had a chance to do speed work, so I assume that I'll
> still get dropped easily.
Racing speeds vary alot and being good at steady state might not be enough, unless that steady state
power is enough to hang in and recover even if you suffer badly during the accelerations that are
part of racing. You really have to do 3-4 races to make an accurate assesment of what it would take
for YOU to be able to hang in a race or do well in it. If you feel great in your first race, do not
attack until the finish or you may be unpleasantly surprised to learn how quickly the speed can go
from too easy to too hard.
-WG
Don't get too hung up on wattage output. Use it only for comparison on your own training progress.
Some of my clients with the highest wattage outputs have been the poorest road racers and
vice versa.
There are so many physical and mental intangibles in becoming a successful bike racer that absolute
wattage measurements are only 'somewhat' relevant.
Steve Scarich Elite Coach
"Raptor" <me@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3F1CB0CD.2030206@attbi.com...
> I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>
> I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
> reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
> century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
>
> How good a racer "should" I be? I won't be a good climber any time soon, being the same height as
> LANCE and weighing 40 lbs more.
Go here:
http://www.cyclingpeaks.com/powerprofiling.htm
Andy Coggan
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:34:37 -0600, Raptor <me@attbi.com> wrote:
>I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>
>I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
>reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
>century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
Come on now dude, when you did your first race you said you could motor at 23, last week it was 24,
and now it's 25. Check google if you think I'm kidding. :-)
>My conditioning is still fragile. I haven't had a chance to do speed work, so I assume that I'll
>still get dropped easily.
If I remember correctly you were doing ok in your first race until the first primes - I thought you
mentioned you were going to do speed work then.
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Scott Johnson "Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are why they only open the
top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen
Top Sirloin wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:34:37 -0600, Raptor <me@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I've been watching the meters on the machines at the gym. (I don't have an SRM on my bike.)
>>
>>I warm up at 150 Watts, can manage 200-220 steady-state, and did 500 at my MaxHR tonight. I have
>>reason to believe that in LSD efforts, I can achieve much higher steady states, because on a
>>century where I'm pacing myself, I can motor at 25+mph for several miles at a time.
>
>
> Come on now dude, when you did your first race you said you could motor at 23, last week it was
> 24, and now it's 25. Check google if you think I'm kidding. :-)
I'll be competing in next year's Giro if I can keep this up.
My training "regime" is sufficiently sloppy and casual that I really only have these WAGs to go on.
I'm still simply curious as to how strong I am compared to other riders. To be honest, there's still
a vestige of pie-in-the-sky youngster dreaming that maybe I'm worth kicking my own ass with the goal
of becoming a really successful racer (Cat 2 would be "really successful" in my mind).
My computer is slightly generous, so I try variously to correct for it. When I'm warm and not doing
massive distance (50+ miles), 23-24 is something I can do for several minutes at a time. The
computer will show me 24, but it's probably really 23.6. But I've done a small few non-competitive
centuries in recent years, and notice that in the third quarter of such rides, I reach a state where
the speed I'm doing solo is surprisingly fast: 25+. I look hard to make sure I'm not on a false
downhill or getting pushed by a tailwind. I'll hold that speed for 10 or more minutes before feeling
like I need to recover, then I can go again. At the very end of my last century, I towed a fellow
rider in to the finish at 25-28 mph for the last 2-3 miles, to properly finish the effort off.
>>My conditioning is still fragile. I haven't had a chance to do speed work, so I assume that I'll
>>still get dropped easily.
>
>
> If I remember correctly you were doing ok in your first race until the first primes - I thought
> you mentioned you were going to do speed work then.
I went to a flat training crit recently, worked on staying with the front 10. Shortly after the
first attack, I was done. Saddle sores and a severe ankle sprain (probably tore something - I find
out tomorrow) have gotten in the way since. But the basketball shot I made while killing my ankle
was highlight-reel material. :-)
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