This guy is smart...

[Mark Hill]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/fool227.DTL

Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.

[Scribe2b]

"Hearts of Lions" it aint

jc

[Lindsay]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:32:04 GMT, "Mark Hill" <mhill@nospam.columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/fool227.DTL
>
>Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.

I loved this part:

"My basic premise is that given a couple years training and a cool bike, I could be a professional
cyclist. I might not be able to compete in the Tour de France, but I'd get close. Come on, pretty
much everyone can pedal a bike."

This would make a great reality TV show on OLN. Have Chris Carmichael set up a training program,
have Trek donate the bike, have Powerbar donate the carbs ... Then put the guy in a Cat 5 race and
watch him cry like a baby.

Lindsay
----------------------------
"One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."

P.J. O'Rourke

[Tritonrider]

>From: Lindsay ldblueSPASMSUX@mindspring.com

>"My basic premise is that given a couple years training and a cool bike, I could be a professional
>cyclist. I might not be able to compete in the Tour de France, but I'd get close. Come on, pretty
>much everyone can pedal a bike."
>
>This would make a great reality TV show on OLN. Have Chris Carmichael set up a training program,
>have Trek donate the bike, have Powerbar donate the carbs ... Then put the guy in a Cat 5 race and
>watch him cry like a baby.
>
>Lindsay

**** I'd bet that even Kunich and I could spank him, and that's pretty sad. Bill C

[Brian Phillips]

Here's his e-mail address, if anyone cares to tell him what an idiot he is: bettingfool@sfgate.com
Or maybe we can invite him on a ride up Mt. Diablo or Mt. Hamilton.... We'll even give him a year to
train for it, since he can become a professional cyclist in that time.... He's the Chronicle's
version of a troll.

[Ian Fan]

Well as far as he's concerned, you're just promoting his columns.

As the saying goes, any attention is good attention.

"Mark Hill" <mhill@nospam.columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:UPjTa.536$E17.259@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/fool227.DTL
>
> Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.

[Jjr071160]

I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?

[Steve Litvin]

> "My basic premise is that given a couple years training and a cool bike, I could be a professional
> cyclist. I might not be able to compete in the Tour de France, but I'd get close. Come on, pretty
> much everyone can pedal a bike."
>
>

I'm preaching to the choir so I'm not going to go into why this is so inane but I find it funny that
the average person (or columnist) doesn't feel with a race car and some practice they could win the
Indy 500 (I don't think I could).

steve

[Generalnollidge]

wrong..he passed http://espn.go.com/oly/tdf2003/s/2003/0722/1584101.html "jjr071160"
<JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote in message news:3f1dce40$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com...
> I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
> CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?

[Ron Blancarte]

Lindsay used 100% recycled electrons to write:

>I loved this part:
>
>"My basic premise is that given a couple years training and a cool bike, I could be a professional
>cyclist. I might not be able to compete in the Tour de France, but I'd get close. Come on, pretty
>much everyone can pedal a bike."

Would this not mean that ANY sport has just been rendered pointless? I mean, I do the same for
basketball, baseball, football, golf... etc, and I might not make the top spot in the sport, but I
can play at a solid level.

Not a solid point. Most of his other points aren't either. Just highlighting... -"If it's French, it
sucks!" Lame argument

-"There is no strategy. Oh wait, go faster than the other guy." To the untrained eye there isn't
anything to baseball than hit the ball and run.

-"You can do it with a broken collarbone." There are numerous examples of players in the big 4
playing with broken bones, much worse than a collarbone.

-"There are no balls (insert lame Armstrong testicle joke here) and no scoreboard." Thus the
Olympics have been rendered not a sport.

-"You have to go to REI to buy equipment for this hobby. If you can't find it at Big 5, it's not a
sport." You can get a bike anywhere. A good bike probably has to come from a specialized shop. The
same is said for golf.

-"It's on the OLN in the middle of the night." At least it is shown live. NBC kills their coverage
showing tennis tape delayed.

-"Millions of Europeans and a handful of Americans are wrong." Ah yes, the popular if we don't get
it, it sucks.

So lets see, we have just stated that sports don't exist.....

Anyway, it was just another in a long line of shock articles. They are old, and more important, the
say the same thing. Someone needs to come up with something original.

RonB

--------------------------------------------------
"It is human nature to take shortcuts in thinking"
--------------------------------------------------

[Bob Bullet]

CONFIRMED.

KEEP RACIN', BOB BULLET

"jjr071160" <JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote in message news:3f1dce40$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com...
> I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
> CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?

[Boyd Speerschne]

"Mark Hill" <mhill@nospam.columbus.rr.com> wrote in news:UPjTa.536$E17.259@fe3.columbus.rr.com:

> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/f ool227.DTL
>
> Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.
>
>

Don't feed the trolls. This includes newspaper columnists.

- Boyd S.

[Davey Crockett]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:34:55 -0400, BOB BULLET wrote:

> CONFIRMED.
>
> KEEP RACIN', BOB BULLET
>
> "jjr071160" <JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1dce40$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com...
>> I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
>> CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?

Latest I heard (Source: Ultim'ora - La Gazzetta dello Sport) was that they tested 22 riders today
and that they all were negative for prohibited substances.

But you never know...................
--
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21:59:02 up 16 days, 15:17, 7 users, load average: 0.94, 0.73, 0.42

[Daniel Lieb]

sfgate.com, obviously a joke. It got a few laugs out of me.

KBH wrote:

> Didn't some 15 year old columnist in Atlanta or somewhere write an almost identical column a year
> ago after Lance won SI Sportsman of the Year?
>
> "Mark Hill" <mhill@nospam.columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:UPjTa.536$E17.259@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/fool227.DTL
> >
> > Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.
> >

[Velocat]

Reporting on sporting events is not real writing. My basic premise is that anyone, including myself,
could write a sports column without any prior experience. There is ample evidence of this in just
about every newspaper. Knowledge of the event being covered is clearly not a prerequisite. Most
sports reporters are wannabes who dream of playing some the "game" but consider the walk to the bar
to be their exercise quota for the day.

The fact that the Tour gets so little coverage in most newspapers just demonstrates my point.
Writing about the Tour requires some knowledge about the teams, stragegy, stages, etc. That would
require some real homework by most reporters and is therefore too much work. It's much easier to
write some stupid piece like "Cycling isn't a real sport" than it is to really report on the event.
Real reporters cover events they have no knowledge of everyday. It takes hard work and dedication to
do it well. Sports reporters don't like to be bothered by such details.

I recognize that there are several excellent sports reporters who cover cycling events very well. I
personally am a big fan of rbr's own Jeff Jones. My comments are directed to the vast majority of
sports reporters who somehow make a living writing crap like the story that started this thread.

Just my $.02 Dave

[Edward Waffle]

Lindsay wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:32:04 GMT, "Mark Hill" <mhill@nospam.columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/07/22/fo
ol227.DTL
>>
>>Go ahead...read it. I wish I could get paid to write such tripe.
>
>I loved this part:
>
>"My basic premise is that given a couple years training and a cool bike, I could be a professional
>cyclist. I might not be able to compete in the Tour de France, but I'd get close. Come on, pretty
>much everyone can pedal a bike."

I can throw a baseball 60 feet, 6 inches.

When do I get to start at Yankee Stadium?

[Bill Davidson]

jjr071160 wrote:
> I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
> CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?

I think you didn't hear it right. The news services are reporting that the top riders were all
tested today and they all passed.

http://sport.iafrica.com/news/256215.htm http://espn.go.com/oly/tdf2003/s/2003/0722/1584101.html
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-7-2003_pg2_8

--Bill Davidson
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[Bob Bullet]

SORRY. ULLRICH FAILED.

WEED AND EPO AND XTC.

BOB BULLET

"Bill Davidson" <billdav@cox.nospam.net> wrote in message news:pumTa.20352$Ne.8160@fed1read03...
> jjr071160 wrote:
> > I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40 p.m.
> > CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone confirm?
>
> I think you didn't hear it right. The news services are reporting that the top riders were all
> tested today and they all passed.
>
> http://sport.iafrica.com/news/256215.htm http://espn.go.com/oly/tdf2003/s/2003/0722/1584101.html
> http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-7-2003_pg2_8
>
> --Bill Davidson
> --
> Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies.
>
> I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now

[Bob Bullet]

WRONG. ULLRICH FAILED. XTC AND WEED AND EPO.

BOB BULLET

"Davey Crockett" <DC@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.07.23.02.02.02.117649@hotmail.com...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:34:55 -0400, BOB BULLET wrote:
>
> > CONFIRMED.
> >
> > KEEP RACIN', BOB BULLET
> >
> > "jjr071160" <JJR@perfectiondata.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f1dce40$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com...
> >> I was in the other room when I think I heard on Headline News (6:40
p.m.
> >> CDT) that Ullrich flunked the drug test and is out? Can anyone
confirm?
>
> Latest I heard (Source: Ultim'ora - La Gazzetta dello Sport) was that they tested 22 riders today
> and that they all were negative for prohibited substances.
>
> But you never know...................
> --
> Davey Crockett Speed up your computer: del c:/windows/*.* The instructions said "Load WinDoze 95
> or Better", so I loaded LINUX http://members.rogers.com/worlds2003/linux.jpg
> 21:59:02 up 16 days, 15:17, 7 users, load average: 0.94, 0.73, 0.42

[Guess Who]

"VeloCat" <velocat@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:bfkqjn03nm@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Reporting on sporting events is not real writing. My basic premise is that anyone, including
> myself, could write a sports column without any prior experience. There is ample evidence of this
> in just about every newspaper. Knowledge of the event being covered is clearly not a prerequisite.
> Most sports reporters are wannabes who dream of playing some the "game" but consider the walk to
> the bar to be their exercise quota for the day.
>
> The fact that the Tour gets so little coverage in most newspapers just demonstrates my point.
> Writing about the Tour requires some knowledge about the teams, stragegy, stages, etc. That would
> require some real homework by most reporters and is therefore too much work. It's much easier to
> write some stupid piece like "Cycling isn't a real sport" than it is to really report on the
> event. Real reporters cover events they have no knowledge of everyday. It takes hard work and
> dedication to do it well. Sports reporters don't like to be bothered by such details.
>
> I recognize that there are several excellent sports reporters who cover cycling events very
> well. I personally am a big fan of rbr's own Jeff Jones. My comments are directed to the vast
> majority of sports reporters who somehow make a living writing crap like the story that started
> this thread.
>
> Just my $.02 Dave
>
It was written tongue in cheek, I think.