Doping Still Out of Control

[ESMD]

Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and many sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too many “little helpers” raised its ugly head again?

[Amg]

> Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and many
> sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too
> many "little helpers" raised its ugly head again?

So, as a medical professional, what is your assessment of the present state of the doping/detection
battle? Or is this a real specialist's issue? Could half the riders be getting away with
(well-masked) chemical assistance? You obviously don't think doping is a thing of the past...

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au>,
ESMD <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:

> Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and many
> sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too
> many “little helpers” raised its ugly head again?

GI and blood problems? How about the simple explanation that these guys are so far out onto the
ragged edge of trained athleticism that they are constantly flirting with overtraining, unhealthily
low body fat, and the general fatigue from repeatedly pushing their bodies to maximal efforts over
the course of races and the season.

--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

[lazysegall]

Originally posted by Ryan Cousineau
In article <3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au>,
ESMD <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:

> Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and many
> sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too
> many “little helpers” raised its ugly head again?

GI and blood problems? How about the simple explanation that these guys are so far out onto the
ragged edge of trained athleticism that they are constantly flirting with overtraining, unhealthily
low body fat, and the general fatigue from repeatedly pushing their bodies to maximal efforts over
the course of races and the season.

--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club


I agree...even normal people who don;t ride bikes everyday find it difficult to go a month without a slight medical problem...I think we all have some problem once every 3 months or so...In a race that problem is magnified many fold. I mean even if you ride or work out every day there are some days that you have to skip or can;t work as hard. That is what you see in the peloton. I don;t mean there isn;t doping, but people getting sick isn;t evidence of it.

[Dashi Toshii]

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:rcousine-A03448.12005526072003@morgoth.sfu.ca...
> In article <3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au>,
> ESMD <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> > Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and
> > many sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems
> > from too many "little helpers" raised its ugly head again?
>
> GI and blood problems? How about the simple explanation that these guys are so far out onto the
> ragged edge of trained athleticism that they are constantly flirting with overtraining,
> unhealthily low body fat, and the general fatigue from repeatedly pushing their bodies to maximal
> efforts over the course of races and the season.

Very true, wonder where ESMD practices, I'll try to avoid that area.

Dashii

> --
> Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

[Tom Kunich]

"ESMD" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au...
> Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my
professional
> medical opinion) and many sick racers with gastrointestinal and
blood
> problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too many "little helpers" raised its ugly
> head again?

Why don't you try trolling elsewhere? Exactly what "blood problems" have you heard about? As for
gastro-intestinal problems - exactly what would you expect of people who normally exist on 2500
calories a day burning and consuming over 10,000 calories a day during the Tour? All of these riders
are being re-hydrated intravenously and that is asking for the occasional infection.

Hell, the wonder is that any rider can survive the Tour at the speeds they do it these days.

[Sam]

Diagnosing over the internet is a dangerous game to play.

"ESMD" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au...
> Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and many
> sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems from too
> many "little helpers" raised its ugly head again?
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[Wkabout]

It surely takes two Belgian team doctors and assorted other medical professionals to do that. "Sam"
<marathonman@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:bg1335$ev4$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net...
> Diagnosing over the internet is a dangerous game to play.
>
>
> "ESMD" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:3f22baa0_3@news.chariot.net.au...
> > Two mysterious deaths this year (with BS explanations in my professional medical opinion) and
> > many sick racers with gastrointestinal and blood problems on this Tour. Has toxicity problems
> > from too many "little helpers" raised its ugly head again?
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