Lightest Skewers?

[lks]

Anybody know of any lighter skewers, that don't require a wrench, than the U.S.E. Spin Stix Ti skewers? Their web site seems to be down now, but a good description can be found at: wisecyclebuys.com.

[supergrill]

Anybody know of any lighter skewers, that don't require a wrench, than the U.S.E. Spin Stix Ti skewers? Their web site seems to be down now, but a good description can be found at: wisecyclebuys.com.

Yeah, the tune AC-14's.
http://www.tune.de/tune_gb/index.php?lang=gb&ebene=3&typ=2&nr=9&e=1&new=

(and I'll also be kind enough to hold my opinion on saving a few meaningless grams on something as unimportant as holding the wheels on your bike.
:rolleyes: )

[lks]

Yeah, the tune AC-14's.
http://www.tune.de/tune_gb/index.php?lang=gb&ebene=3&typ=2&nr=9&e=1&new=

(and I'll also be kind enough to hold my opinion on saving a few meaningless grams on something as unimportant as holding the wheels on your bike.
:rolleyes: )
Maybe meaningless to "you", but meaningless to "me", is not buying the best, unless you can't afford it. That's why I ride a $9000 bike!

[dhk2]

Maybe meaningless to "you", but meaningless to "me", is not buying the best, unless you can't afford it. That's why I ride a $9000 bike!
Agree with supergrill. The "best" skewers are the strongest, most durable that give the most consistent clamp up force. Light weight isn't the first thing I think about when it comes to the critical fasteners on the bike. After all, any part can be made lighter; that doesn't add to the cost or value.

OTOH, I don't ride a $9000 bike either. Perhaps if I had a desire to spend that kind of money, I'd be counting the grams a bit closer as well to help justify the cost.

[lks]

Agree with supergrill. The "best" skewers are the strongest, most durable that give the most consistent clamp up force. Light weight isn't the first thing I think about when it comes to the critical fasteners on the bike. After all, any part can be made lighter; that doesn't add to the cost or value.

OTOH, I don't ride a $9000 bike either. Perhaps if I had a desire to spend that kind of money, I'd be counting the grams a bit closer as well to help justify the cost.
The U.S.E. Spin Stiks were designed and have been tested to be as strong as what Mavic provides, with their top Kysriums. They have the identical diameter Ti axel. Aircraft grade alloy nuts. U.S.E. is a certified supplier to the British Military Industry. Unlike the Mavic's, they have no pivot pin that can fail because they have no pivot pin. Surprise, the Pro Team bikes are so light, that they have to add weight to bring them up to the UCI minimum, so they are not using spin Stix because of their negligble lower weight.

[benkoostra]

What were we talking about?

[RickF]

A good fart weighs more than the difference between the lightest and average skewer.

[lks]

A good fart weighs more than the difference between the lightest and average skewer.
Did you use a scale or your nose, for this measurement?

[benkoostra]

Just eat less before you ride. That should save you enough grams so you won't have to worry about it. Or you could go without socks.:D

[lks]

Just eat less before you ride. That should save you enough grams so you won't have to worry about it. Or you could go without socks.:D
You still totally miss the point. The Pro tour teams don't use these skewers because they need to reduce weight, because their bikes are so light that they actually have to add weight to bring them up to the UCI minimum. If you ever figure out why they use them, then you will know why I use them!

[benkoostra]

Because you're an obnoxious trust fund baby?

[Bro Deal]

Because you're an obnoxious trust fund baby?
Non-racing poseur would be my guess. Those few grams will really pay off at the MS150.

"If you figure out why the pros use them you will know why I use them." ROTFL!

[lks]

Because you're an obnoxious trust fund baby?
If you don't know the advantages of these skewers, excluding low weight, but including safety, you could try being mature enough to admit it instead of posting a childish response.

[lks]

Non-racing poseur would be my guess. Those few grams will really pay off at the MS150.

"If you figure out why the pros use them you will know why I use them." ROTFL!
If you don't know the advantages of these skewers, excluding low weight, but including safety, you could try hard to be mature enough to admit it, instead of posting one of your WAG's. Wild Ass Guess!

[benkoostra]

If you don't know the advantages of these skewers, excluding low weight, but including safety, you could try being mature enough to admit it instead of posting a childish response.
Your right. All you were doing is posting information, for those of us who JUST DON'T KNOW, right?
You got called out for being a poser and a liar. Deal with it.
If your not lying, post a picture of you and your bike, holding a sign that reference this thread. Short of that, I will never believe you.

[RickF]

If you don't know the advantages of these skewers, excluding low weight, but including safety, you could try being mature enough to admit it instead of posting a childish response.If safety is your concern, why was the thread not titled "Safest Skewers?"

The advantage of these skewers is that they make a wheel change about five seconds faster. Is that important in a race? Yes. Is it important to me? No.

As far as safety is concerned, how often to skewers fail? It has never happened to me. It has never happened to anyone I have riden with. I have never seen it happen on television race coverage.

With a bottom droppout, what is the worst thing that would happen if the skewer did fail? The rear wheel would rub the inside of the chain stay?

[Bro Deal]

If you don't know the advantages of these skewers, excluding low weight, but including safety, you could try hard to be mature enough to admit it, instead of posting one of your WAG's. Wild Ass Guess!
Sorry, dude. I just find it really funny when you come in with this attitude that nothing is worth buying unless it is the best (unless, of course, you are one of the poor peasants you intend to boast to) and then go on to justifying equipment purchases because the pros might use the stuff on their climbing bikes. Drop us a line when you get your UCI license.

I am sure the freds will be impressed.

[lks]

Your right. All you were doing is posting information, for those of us who JUST DON'T KNOW, right?
You got called out for being a poser and a liar. Deal with it.
If your not lying, post a picture of you and your bike, holding a sign that reference this thread. Short of that, I will never believe you.
I hope you feel better, after throwing your chidish tantrum and I hope you get over it and learn how to "deal with it" in the future.

[lks]

If safety is your concern, why was the thread not titled "Safest Skewers?"

The advantage of these skewers is that they make a wheel change about five seconds faster. Is that important in a race? Yes. Is it important to me? No.

As far as safety is concerned, how often to skewers fail? It has never happened to me. It has never happened to anyone I have riden with. I have never seen it happen on television race coverage.

With a bottom droppout, what is the worst thing that would happen if the skewer did fail? The rear wheel would rub the inside of the chain stay?
Years ago, I did see a race on TV, where the front wheel came off, over a bump, because the front pivoting type skewer failed. Over the years, there have been recalls by manufacturers for this. How often doe's this occur with a quality skewer? I don't know, if I had to guess, I would say rarely. I never had a Trek aluminum steerer tube fail, nor has all of the many Trek riders in my clubs and there have been plenty of crashes. I thought Trek aluminum steerer tubes were bullit proof because I never saw a Discovery team bike have one fail, not even after the hardest crashes, until I saw George Hincapie's fail because of a fall that didn't even break a bone or dislocate anything, until the seconed crash. Some things can be overdone, but not safety for me.

[lks]

Sorry, dude. I just find it really funny when you come in with this attitude that nothing is worth buying unless it is the best (unless, of course, you are one of the poor peasants you intend to boast to) and then go on to justifying equipment purchases because the pros might use the stuff on their climbing bikes. Drop us a line when you get your UCI license.

I am sure the freds will be impressed.
Bad mistake to mention price, unless I am asked. I bought Spin Stix skewers because they have less parts than a pivoting skewer lever. All things being equal, less parts equal greater reliability. It's a major component of MTBF calculations, Mean Time Between Failure. Next, was the greater ease of duplicating the same compression pressure, when I tightened my skewer. All I have to do is always turn the ridged lever 130 degrees and I always get the same skewer compression. Positioned horizontally, they present very low wind resistance. Low wind resistance forks cost a lot, so why quit there even if it only looks better. Last, and totally performance irrelevant, is they come in colors. Red, for the red tires on my Mavic Ksyrium ESs and black, for the black tires on my Mavic Kysrium Tour de France wheels. I would have like yellow, to match the one yellow spoke, but life is a compromise.