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Neptunium
  
I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35 mph. It
had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide out. Then I
braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading off the road and into the trees,
then released brakes. By this time, I was off the pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I
tried to roll with the direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off the road.
I braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left colar bone - broke in 2
(an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung slightly collapsed. I didn't notice at first but
there was a lump on my head too, left side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured
thoughout the inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate
their experience, maybe if it was an injury like this. greg

Psycholist
  
This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash isn't that similar to yours
except with respect to broken bones.

I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made a left hand turn across my
path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a descent. I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the
upper 20s (mph). Broke my pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my
lower left leg. I now have five permanent titanium screws holding my left leg together.

By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late January I was outdoors and doing
200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my best season ever and personal best times in a number
of the big centuries I do.

My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay fit while you're convalescing.
After I got out of the hospital, I was basically confined to this reclining chair and I was
non-weight bearing on the left leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in
the air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a complete lunatic, but people
were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a crash the doctors said should have killed me.

Best of luck in your recovery!

Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030802170825.00688.00001190@mb-m25.aol.com...
> I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35 mph.
> It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide out. Then
> I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading
off
> the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was off
the
> pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with the direction of the turn,
> but there was too much momentum heading off the
road. I
> braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left
colar
> bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung
slightly
> collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head too,
left
> side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout the inside. I really belive
> the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their experience, maybe if it was an
> injury like this. greg

Don Vescio
  
On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first time by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left
hip, fractured the ball of the femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into
the air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated
it and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me
completely over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke my
nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the handlebars on my bike upward
to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both mentally and
physically. Each day, I find myself more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and
racing during the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and
work slowly and carefully at this time, there won't be a negative impact on my future racing (other
than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of additional shoulder damage in the
event of a crash).

I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay optimistic and motivated each day
when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of how far I've come and
how I've managed to beat a lot of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists
who were seriously injured and still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last
January, for instance, and he just finished a successful tour.

Good luck on your recovery.

Don

"psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> wrote in message news:bghhlj$9dr9$1@news3.infoave.net...
> This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash
isn't
> that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.
>
> I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made a left hand turn across my
> path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a
descent.
> I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph). Broke
my
> pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my lower left leg. I now have
> five permanent titanium screws holding my left leg together.
>
> By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late January
I
> was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my
best
> season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I do.
>
> My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay fit while you're convalescing.
> After I got out of the hospital, I was
basically
> confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the left leg for a long time. But
> in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in the air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife
> thought I was a complete lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a
crash
> the doctors said should have killed me.
>
> Best of luck in your recovery!
>
> Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030802170825.00688.00001190@mb-m25.aol.com...
> > I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
> > mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide
> > out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading
> off
> > the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was
off
> the
> > pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with
the
> > direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off the
> road. I
> > braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left
> colar
> > bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung
> slightly
> > collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head too,
> left
> > side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout
the
> > inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
> > experience, maybe if it was an injury like
this.
> > greg

Ken Papai
  
"don vescio" <don.vescio@digitalinspirations.com> wrote ...
> On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
> on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first
time
> by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of
the
> femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into
the
> air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated it
> and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me completely
> over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke
my
> nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.

Damn -- that is horrible!

I was hit by a car 6 weeks ago -- the poor fat chick driver was sitting in the left turn lane then
decided she had to get in the right-hand lane for some idiotic reason.

Her tire caught my shoe, scraped off and then caught my chainstay and tacoed my rear wheel
instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway, I
did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick
give me a ride home. I was going about 22 mph when she hit me and her about 7 mph.

That sucked and I am glad I was not hurt (small bruise only) but feel badly for you.

-Ken
>
> I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
> possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
> when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
> been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the
handlebars
> on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both
> mentally and physically. Each day, I find
myself
> more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing durin
g
> the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly and
> carefully at this time, there won't be a
negative
> impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of
> additional shoulder damage in the event of a
crash).
>
> I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay
optimistic
> and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of
> how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a
lot
> of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured and
> still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance, and
> he just finished a successful tour.
>
> Good luck on your recovery.
>
> Don

Psycholist
  
My chain of events was actually quite similar to yours. I hit her right front fender at the wheel
well. That broke my hip and pelvis and the edge of the wheel well caused the lacerations to my leg.
Then I went into the windshield. Eye witnesses said I glanced off the windshield and went way up in
the air. I also landed squarely on my head -- causing the compression fracture to my spine. I was in
the air for a long enough time to have two thoughts: 1) God, that first impact really hurt and 2)
God, is this second impact going to kill me? It didn't. But I came to rest laying squarely on the
hip that was all but fractured clear through. Naturally, nobody would move me despite my begging. It
was absolutely brutal. But I wouldn't have moved me if I were them, either.

In the emergency room, the doctor said, "If you weren't in such great shape, that crash would have
killed you ..." I replied, "I owe my condition to the bike." ;-)

Bob C. "don vescio" <don.vescio@digitalinspirations.com> wrote in message
news:viojkeq5r8csf1@corp.supernews.com...
> On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left in front of me while I was
> on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first
time
> by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of
the
> femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into
the
> air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated it
> and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me completely
> over the car, and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke
my
> nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.
>
> I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery five weeks ago (no repair was
> possible--the missing bone was crushed to powder) and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago,
> when I was cleared to begin walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
> been doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the
handlebars
> on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the riding feels really good, both
> mentally and physically. Each day, I find
myself
> more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing
during
> the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly and
> carefully at this time, there won't be a
negative
> impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting anymore because of the risk of
> additional shoulder damage in the event of a
crash).
>
> I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay
optimistic
> and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with recovery. I just keep thinking of
> how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a
lot
> of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured and
> still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance, and
> he just finished a successful tour.
>
> Good luck on your recovery.
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
> "psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> wrote in message news:bghhlj$9dr9$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash
> isn't
> > that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.
> >
> > I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone made
a
> > left hand turn across my path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a
> descent.
> > I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph). Broke
> my
> > pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of my lower left leg. I now
> > have five permanent titanium screws holding my
left
> > leg together.
> >
> > By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late
January
> I
> > was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my
> best
> > season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I
do.
> >
> > My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay
fit
> > while you're convalescing. After I got out of the hospital, I was
> basically
> > confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the
left
> > leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in
the
> > air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a
complete
> > lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a
> crash
> > the doctors said should have killed me.
> >
> > Best of luck in your recovery!
> >
> > Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20030802170825.00688.00001190@mb-m25.aol.com...
> > > I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
> > > mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide
> > > out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was
heading
> > off
> > > the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was
> off
> > the
> > > pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll with
> the
> > > direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off the
> > road. I
> > > braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My
left
> > colar
> > > bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung
> > slightly
> > > collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head
too,
> > left
> > > side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured thoughout
> the
> > > inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
> > > experience, maybe if it was an injury like
> this.
> > > greg
> >
>

Joel Lowrie
  
Wow, that sounds rough. I work in a rehab hospital and believe me the last thing i ever want is a
severe head injury.

On Thursday I had a crash, but not nearly as bad. I was rear ended in the middle of the right lane
at a stoplight. The car launched the bike, with me attached thanks to clips and straps, five or six
feet forward into the intersection. I landed on my right side and spent the next few seconds
wondering if I could get my right foot out of the clip before being run over by oncoming traffic.
Luckily I did get my foot out and was able to get out of the intersection safely. I wasn't badly
hurt, a broken toe and sprained ankle on my left foot, a stiff lower back, and a chainring bite on
my right ankle. As far as the bike, taco’d rear wheel, bent rear derailleur & hanger, bent
chainstay, bent seatstays and bent rear rack. This was with a chromoly frame.

The lady who hit me (really nice, sincerely apologetic, and more shook up from the accident than
myself) gave me a ride to work, and bought me a brand new Cannondale this afternoon. :-)

NEPTUNIUM wrote:

>I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35 mph.
>It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to slide out. Then
>I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was heading off the road and into the
>trees, then released brakes. By this time, I was off the pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the
>pull out. I tried to roll with the direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading
>off the road. I braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My left colar bone
>- broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung slightly collapsed. I didn't notice
>at first but there was a lump on my head too, left side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it
>is fractured thoughout the inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can
>someone relate their experience, maybe if it was an injury like this. greg

Gerard Lanois
  
"psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> writes:

> This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,

Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

-Gerard

Don Vescio
  
I had the exact same experience--I was conscious the entire time and had similar thoughts when I
heard the sound that my body was making as it bounced off the car both times. The investigating
police and the hospital's trauma team both said that they couldn't figure out how I lived through
the accident, other than the fact that I was really fit from training. Also, this fitness has done
me well in rehab. Originally, it was projected that I wouldn't even be walking with assistance 'til
Labor Day; here I am now riding indoors and walking unassisted (and even able to keyboard on my PC,
for that matter).

I think that the hard part will be riding on the roads again. In eastern Massachusetts, there's lots
of cars around....

Take care-

Don

"psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> wrote in message news:bghu20$9lbd$1@news3.infoave.net...
> My chain of events was actually quite similar to yours. I hit her right front fender at the wheel
> well. That broke my hip and pelvis and the edge of the wheel well caused the lacerations to my
> leg. Then I went into the windshield. Eye witnesses said I glanced off the windshield and went way
up
> in the air. I also landed squarely on my head -- causing the compression fracture to my spine. I
> was in the air for a long enough time to have two thoughts: 1) God, that first impact really hurt
> and 2) God, is this second impact going to kill me? It didn't. But I came to rest laying squarely
on
> the hip that was all but fractured clear through. Naturally, nobody would move me despite my
> begging. It was absolutely brutal. But I wouldn't
have
> moved me if I were them, either.
>
> In the emergency room, the doctor said, "If you weren't in such great
shape,
> that crash would have killed you ..." I replied, "I owe my condition to
the
> bike." ;-)
>
> Bob C. "don vescio" <don.vescio@digitalinspirations.com> wrote in message
> news:viojkeq5r8csf1@corp.supernews.com...
> > On June 10 of this year, I was hit by a car that attempted to turn left
in
> > front of me while I was on a training ride. I was hit twice--the first
> time
> > by the car's bumper, which dislocated my left hip, fractured the ball of
> the
> > femur and resulted in ~30% loss of the hip socket. This threw me into
> the
> > air as the car continued forward. The windshield then struck my left shoulder, which dislocated
> > it and resulted in the loss of ~45% of the glenoid (shoulder socket). This blow knocked me
> > completely over the
car,
> > and I landed on my head (was wearing a helmet, fortunately), and I broke
> my
> > nose and lost a huge amount of skin on my left arm.
> >
> > I was hospitalized for three and a half weeks, had shoulder surgery
five
> > weeks ago (no repair was possible--the missing bone was crushed to
powder)
> > and was wheelchair bound up to nine days ago, when I was cleared to
begin
> > walking again. I also was cleared to ride my Computrainer, which I've
been
> > doing every day for light 1/2 hour sessions. I had to rotate the
> handlebars
> > on my bike upward to take the pressure off of my shoulder, but the
riding
> > feels really good, both mentally and physically. Each day, I find
> myself
> > more comfortable on the bike and I look forward to riding and racing
> during
> > the upcoming season. I'm also confident that if I continue to pursue my rehab and work slowly
> > and carefully at this time, there won't be a
> negative
> > impact on my future racing (other than I won't be field sprinting
anymore
> > because of the risk of additional shoulder damage in the event of a
> crash).
> >
> > I have to agree with Bob C., who posted above--it's hard to stay
> optimistic
> > and motivated each day when there's so much pain associated with
recovery.
> > I just keep thinking of how far I've come and how I've managed to beat a
> lot
> > of serious odds. Keep in mind that there has been a lot of cyclists who were seriously injured
> > and still came back to race successfully--Floyd Landis broke his hip last January, for instance,
> > and he just finished a successful tour.
> >
> > Good luck on your recovery.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> wrote in message news:bghhlj$9dr9$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > > This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion, and my crash
> > isn't
> > > that similar to yours except with respect to broken bones.
> > >
> > > I got hit by a car last October. Teenager talking on a cell phone
made
> a
> > > left hand turn across my path/right-of-way. I hit her head-on on a
> > descent.
> > > I'm guessing we were each going somewhere in the upper 20s (mph).
Broke
> > my
> > > pelvis, hip, ankle, fractured my spine and had severe lacerations of
my
> > > lower left leg. I now have five permanent titanium screws holding my
> left
> > > leg together.
> > >
> > > By December I was doing roller and trainer rides indoors. By late
> January
> > I
> > > was outdoors and doing 200+ miles per week. This past Spring I had my
> > best
> > > season ever and personal best times in a number of the big centuries I
> do.
> > >
> > > My point? Don't be defeated by it. Do everything you CAN do to stay
> fit
> > > while you're convalescing. After I got out of the hospital, I was
> > basically
> > > confined to this reclining chair and I was non-weight bearing on the
> left
> > > leg for a long time. But in the recliner, I could bicycle my legs in
> the
> > > air and do all sorts of other exercises. My wife thought I was a
> complete
> > > lunatic, but people were shocked at how quickly I bounced back from a
> > crash
> > > the doctors said should have killed me.
> > >
> > > Best of luck in your recovery!
> > >
> > > Bob C. "NEPTUNIUM" <neptunium@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030802170825.00688.00001190@mb-m25.aol.com...
> > > > I had a similar crash like beloki 2 days ago. (similar to his I was going down hill about 35
> > > > mph. It had just rained lightly. I was going around a turn when my rear tire started to
> > > > slide out. Then I braked and the rear went sideways on me. I saw that I was
> heading
> > > off
> > > > the road and into the trees, then released brakes. By this time, I
was
> > off
> > > the
> > > > pavement and in the dirt/gravel of the pull out. I tried to roll
with
> > the
> > > > direction of the turn, but there was too much momentum heading off
the
> > > road. I
> > > > braked both brakes and laid the bike down. I got hurt this time. My
> left
> > > colar
> > > > bone - broke in 2 (an AC break/closest to the shoulder), left lung
> > > slightly
> > > > collapsed. I didn't notice at first but there was a lump on my head
> too,
> > > left
> > > > side. I checked my Bell helmet yesterday and it is fractured
thoughout
> > the
> > > > inside. I really belive the helmet saved me serious head injury. Can someone relate their
> > > > experience, maybe if it was an injury like
> > this.
> > > > greg
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Psycholist
  
experience talking, I'm sure. Asshole. "Gerard Lanois" <gerardlanois@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:u8yqbxoat.fsf@netscape.net...
> "psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> writes:
>
> > This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,
>
> Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.
>
> -Gerard

Kyle Legate
  
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...
>
> instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway,
> I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing
> chick give me a ride home.
>
And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Ignatz Q. Mouse
  
Kyle Legate wrote:
> "Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...
>
>>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!! Anyway,
>>I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing
>>chick give me a ride home.
>>
>
> And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.
>
>

I wonder how they fit two people and a bike on a Razor...

Ken Papai
  
"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...
>
> "Ken Papai" <ken
> > instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
> > Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
> > no-seeing chick give me a ride home.
> >
> And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
situation?

Bret Wade
  
Ken Papai wrote:
> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...
>
>>"Ken Papai" <ken
>>
>>>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
>>>Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
>>>no-seeing chick give me a ride home.
>>>
>>
>>And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.
>
>
> Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
> situation?

I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error. There
is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.

Bret

Gerard Lanois
  
"psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> writes:

> experience talking, I'm sure. Asshole. "Gerard Lanois" <gerardlanois@netscape.net> wrote in
> message news:u8yqbxoat.fsf@netscape.net...
> > "psycholist" <psycholist@wctel.net> writes:
> >
> > > This probably isn't the proper forum for this discussion,
> >
> > Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.
> >
> > -Gerard

Dumbass,

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=uwSdnavPwPDB4_OgXTWQlg%40News.GigaNews.Com

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=8s7oca%24gii%241%40babu.pcisys.net

Nice to meet you too, you booger-eating knuckle-dragging top-poster.

-Gerard

Ken Papai
  
"Bret Wade" <bretwade@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:LvbXa.130616$Io.11117034@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Ken Papai wrote:
> > "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...
> >
> >>"Ken Papai" <ken
> >>
> >>>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just
retrued
> >>>the goddam thing!! Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and
> >>>made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick give me a
ride
> >>>home.
> >>>
> >>
> >>And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.
> >
> >
> > Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
> > situation?
>
> I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error.
> There is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.

Who said I didn't? I can vent on RBR but am not so immature as to vent to this fat, poor,
should-have-her-drivers-license-yanked woman.

>
> Bret

Dashi Toshii
  
"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:278d77e9706e8af1274e43a15e2658b6@free.teranews.com...
>
> "Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:YeZWa.51994$o%2.25734@sccrnsc02...
> >
> > instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just retrued the goddam thing!!
> > Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of balance and reaction time and made the fat, lazy,
> > no-seeing chick give me a ride home.
> >
> And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.

lol

Dashii

Dashi Toshii
  
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:8EcXa.55773$Ho3.7742@sccrnsc03...
>
> "Bret Wade" <bretwade@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:LvbXa.130616$Io.11117034@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > Ken Papai wrote:
> > > "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail. @free.teranews.com...
> > >
> > >>"Ken Papai" <ken
> > >>
> > >>>instantly. I was just 5 blocks out of the bike shop having just
> retrued
> > >>>the goddam thing!! Anyway, I did NOT go down, amazing sense of
balance
> > >>>and reaction time and made the fat, lazy, no-seeing chick give me a
> ride
> > >>>home.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>And you call others mean spirited. Take a look in the mirror.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kyle I was hoping for a reaction like yours. Is there ANY reason I needed to be nice in this
> > > situation?
> >
> > I have been in a similar situation, knocked down by someone who made a serious driving error.
> > There is some satisfaction that comes from handling the situation with dignity.
>
> Who said I didn't? I can vent on RBR but am not so immature as to vent to this fat, poor,
> should-have-her-drivers-license-yanked woman.

She (the fatso) got off easy, some guys would've ripped her head off and **** down her neck!

lol

Dashii

Mriordan95
  
There are two categories of cyclists -

1) Those that treat crashes and road rash as "war wounds" and something to brag about. or 2) others
that look at road rash and crashes as a signal to be wary of that rider as a potential hazard.

Reading this thread, most people here fall in the first category.

H Squared
  
> "Gerard Lanois" <gerardlanois@netscape.net> wrote in message news:u8yqbxoat.fsf@netscape.net...

> > Sure it is. And I believe the tradtion is to report back when you've taken your first real dump.

psycholist wrote:
>
> experience talking, I'm sure. Asshole.

i couldn't figure the reason for psycholist's post and angry tone except that maybe he hasn't
experienced the constipating effect of injuries and pain killers (??)

i didn't go for a couple of days after they shot me full of demerol.

heather luvs talking about poo

Neptunium
  
Thanks for the encouragement. I am just beginning to feel ok. Almost able to take a full breath
since 3 days. I think I will be OK. thank you. greg

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