Victor Meldrew
Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
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Doesnotcompute
Victor Meldrew wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
Zonealarm.
It's free and it's about the best you'll get without paying. In fact with a few exceptions it's
probably better than most you'd pay for.
There's Zonealarm standard which is free, or zonealarm Pro which isn't free unless you're into non
legitimate software.
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Dnc
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
Zonealarm.
It's free and it's about the best you'll get without paying. In fact with a few exceptions it's
probably better than most you'd pay for.
There's Zonealarm standard which is free, or zonealarm Pro which isn't free unless you're into non
legitimate software.
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Fraggle
Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:dE5SUqCcBtN$EweZ@rainow.demon.co.uk:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
sygate or zonealarm I use zonealarm, but lots of people rate sygate, both will block external
attacks and notify you when programs on your machines try to connect.
remember that these things will warn you whenever your ports get scanned, this will happen a lot
just as general "background", so don't panic!
Also check before blocking things access to the net, some bit of MS software calls itself
"runDLLasApp" which sounds darn dodgy to me, but is legit! Use Google to check stuff out!
http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf/spf_ov.htm
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?li d=pdb_za1
Fragg
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
sygate or zonealarm I use zonealarm, but lots of people rate sygate, both will block external
attacks and notify you when programs on your machines try to connect.
remember that these things will warn you whenever your ports get scanned, this will happen a lot
just as general "background", so don't panic!
Also check before blocking things access to the net, some bit of MS software calls itself
"runDLLasApp" which sounds darn dodgy to me, but is legit! Use Google to check stuff out!
http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf/spf_ov.htm
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?li d=pdb_za1
Fragg
Tenex
Victor Meldrew wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
Didn't like Zonealarm to much visual stuff and intrusion. Kerio or Tiny.
I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
and other tests, just like ZA).
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
Didn't like Zonealarm to much visual stuff and intrusion. Kerio or Tiny.
I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
and other tests, just like ZA).
Doesnotcompute
Fraggle wrote:
> Also check before blocking things access to the net, some bit of MS software calls itself
> "runDLLasApp" which sounds darn dodgy to me, but is legit! Use Google to check stuff out!
As you'll know, Zonealarm works the other way. Everything is blocked until it treis to access the
net, at which point you can allow it acces, either "just this once" or "forever".
So programs you use everyday, or at least frequently, are quickly able to access the ent with no
hinderance. Oddball programs and possibly virii/trojans will struggle unless you give them
permission. In which case you might as well not have obthered with the firewall in the first place!
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Dnc
> Also check before blocking things access to the net, some bit of MS software calls itself
> "runDLLasApp" which sounds darn dodgy to me, but is legit! Use Google to check stuff out!
As you'll know, Zonealarm works the other way. Everything is blocked until it treis to access the
net, at which point you can allow it acces, either "just this once" or "forever".
So programs you use everyday, or at least frequently, are quickly able to access the ent with no
hinderance. Oddball programs and possibly virii/trojans will struggle unless you give them
permission. In which case you might as well not have obthered with the firewall in the first place!
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Dnc
Doobrie
> Didn't like Zonealarm to much visual stuff and intrusion. Kerio or Tiny.
>
> I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
> and other tests, just like ZA).
i liked tiny personal firewall too - though now use routers to handle that side of things rather
than having the need to reconfigure software every time i change my operating system, which can be
frequent sometimes
>
> I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
> and other tests, just like ZA).
i liked tiny personal firewall too - though now use routers to handle that side of things rather
than having the need to reconfigure software every time i change my operating system, which can be
frequent sometimes
Just Zis Guy
"Victor Meldrew" <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm are the obvious choices.
see http://grc.com (http://grc.com/) for the lowdown.
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> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm are the obvious choices.
see http://grc.com (http://grc.com/) for the lowdown.
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Tenex
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> "Victor Meldrew" <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dE5SUqCcBtN$EweZ@rainow.demon.co.uk...
>
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm are the obvious choices.
>
> see http://grc.com (http://grc.com/) for the lowdown.
GRC is hopelessly idiosyncratic but useful.
Have you tried http://www.securityspace.com (http://www.securityspace.com/) ? Very good site that will send you periodic security
reminders and a wide selection of tests and audits.
> "Victor Meldrew" <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dE5SUqCcBtN$EweZ@rainow.demon.co.uk...
>
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm are the obvious choices.
>
> see http://grc.com (http://grc.com/) for the lowdown.
GRC is hopelessly idiosyncratic but useful.
Have you tried http://www.securityspace.com (http://www.securityspace.com/) ? Very good site that will send you periodic security
reminders and a wide selection of tests and audits.
Tenex
doobrie wrote:
>> Didn't like Zonealarm to much visual stuff and intrusion. Kerio or Tiny.
>>
>> I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
>> and other tests, just like ZA).
>
> i liked tiny personal firewall too - though now use routers to handle that side of things rather
> than having the need to reconfigure software every time i change my operating system, which can be
> frequent sometimes
A very timely comment!
I have to network my home PC later this week and being new to it, and given your experience, is it
simply a case of putting the router in and leaving Tiny/Kerio as is?
>> Didn't like Zonealarm to much visual stuff and intrusion. Kerio or Tiny.
>>
>> I've used them for years with no problems (and before the ZA nerds start in they pass all the GRC
>> and other tests, just like ZA).
>
> i liked tiny personal firewall too - though now use routers to handle that side of things rather
> than having the need to reconfigure software every time i change my operating system, which can be
> frequent sometimes
A very timely comment!
I have to network my home PC later this week and being new to it, and given your experience, is it
simply a case of putting the router in and leaving Tiny/Kerio as is?
Just Zis Guy
"Tenex" <email@in.group> wrote in message news:iKIZa.3061$Gc4.24450145@news-text.cableinet.net...
> GRC is hopelessly idiosyncratic but useful.
He does get bees in his bonnet, but his site is good and his leak testing and firewall vaidation
tools are excellent and very quick.
I also subscribe to CERT and various other mailing lists. And I have a hardware firewall, which is
far and away the best answer to the whole problem.
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> GRC is hopelessly idiosyncratic but useful.
He does get bees in his bonnet, but his site is good and his leak testing and firewall vaidation
tools are excellent and very quick.
I also subscribe to CERT and various other mailing lists. And I have a hardware firewall, which is
far and away the best answer to the whole problem.
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Doobrie
> A very timely comment!
>
> I have to network my home PC later this week and being new to it, and given your experience, is it
> simply a case of putting the router in and leaving Tiny/Kerio as is?
depends on the ablity of the router ... if it has a firewall built in id rather use that ... you
need to know which ports to block, allow etc but theres heaps of that reading on the net and maybe
even with the router
if its a basic one that only does 'nat then its geenrally ok for blocking incoming stuff (as most
nat will show up as stealth on grc for example and wont answer port scans) but wont block outgoing
connection which may open you upto trojans, etc
it really does depend a lot on the router, your abilities and how paranoid you are ... my own
systems run with current antivirus and generally get nuked fairly often so i dont tend to be
overly worried about dodgy software on my system as im careful with what goes on here and what i
open or dont open
best wait until you've got it and have a few questions at that point ... if you need a basic starter
for tcp/ip settings, etc to get you started with it then shout away ... if however your ntwork card
is set for automatic ip (dhcp) and your router is handing out address's it may be as easy as
plugging into router, using web browser to go to default ip address (will be in the manual) and
logging on - options are there to change then if required.
>
> I have to network my home PC later this week and being new to it, and given your experience, is it
> simply a case of putting the router in and leaving Tiny/Kerio as is?
depends on the ablity of the router ... if it has a firewall built in id rather use that ... you
need to know which ports to block, allow etc but theres heaps of that reading on the net and maybe
even with the router
if its a basic one that only does 'nat then its geenrally ok for blocking incoming stuff (as most
nat will show up as stealth on grc for example and wont answer port scans) but wont block outgoing
connection which may open you upto trojans, etc
it really does depend a lot on the router, your abilities and how paranoid you are ... my own
systems run with current antivirus and generally get nuked fairly often so i dont tend to be
overly worried about dodgy software on my system as im careful with what goes on here and what i
open or dont open
best wait until you've got it and have a few questions at that point ... if you need a basic starter
for tcp/ip settings, etc to get you started with it then shout away ... if however your ntwork card
is set for automatic ip (dhcp) and your router is handing out address's it may be as easy as
plugging into router, using web browser to go to default ip address (will be in the manual) and
logging on - options are there to change then if required.
Davo
well............ could of done you nortons f/w complete with updates till 2029
but looks like your sorted now..............
anyone who rips s/ware should be knighted !!!!!!!!
cheeeeeeeers
watch the uproar.................................
GO :-)
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"Victor Meldrew" <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Victor Meldrew
>
> Remove bra to reply by e-mail.
but looks like your sorted now..............
anyone who rips s/ware should be knighted !!!!!!!!
cheeeeeeeers
watch the uproar.................................
GO :-)
\ / ( . ) ( . ) v \/\/\/\/\/\ ....Baldy..with ATTITUDE
"Victor Meldrew" <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Victor Meldrew
>
> Remove bra to reply by e-mail.
Scrumpy Joe
Victor Meldrew wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
You could try GuardDog or even handcrafting your own iptables firewall because I notice that every
one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Thanks.
You could try GuardDog or even handcrafting your own iptables firewall because I notice that every
one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
Fraggle
Scrumpy Joe <none@none.com> wrote in news:bh8o1h$vjg92$1@ID-47909.news.uni-berlin.de:
> I notice that every one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
>
Duh!
we checked the "User-Agent:" and saw "Turnpike/6.01-U"
so knew it was a windows box!
Fragg - :P
> I notice that every one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
>
Duh!
we checked the "User-Agent:" and saw "Turnpike/6.01-U"
so knew it was a windows box!
Fragg - :P
Mike Causer
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:30:48 +0100, Trevor Barton wrote:
> Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Linux + iptables?
Linux + Shorewall (which makes iptables rules a lot easier to implement).
Mike
> Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
> Linux + iptables?
Linux + Shorewall (which makes iptables rules a lot easier to implement).
Mike
Nick Kew
In article <bh8o1h$vjg92$1@id-47909.news.uni-berlin.de>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of
Scrumpy Joe <none@none.com> wrote:
> You could try GuardDog or even handcrafting your own iptables firewall because I notice that every
> one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
"Personal firewall" is a very Windoze-oriented term. I guess the blowflies buzzing around the
windoze users have figured out that "personal" sells to home users.
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Scrumpy Joe <none@none.com> wrote:
> You could try GuardDog or even handcrafting your own iptables firewall because I notice that every
> one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
"Personal firewall" is a very Windoze-oriented term. I guess the blowflies buzzing around the
windoze users have figured out that "personal" sells to home users.
--
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Germany 0.8 (The Economist, July 2002)
Chris French
In message <Xns93D4DAC9D2999Fragglerock1@195.129.110.130>, Fraggle <Fraggle_rock_1@yahoo.com> writes
>Scrumpy Joe <none@none.com> wrote in news:bh8o1h$vjg92$1@ID-47909.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
>> I notice that every one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
>
>we checked the "User-Agent:" and saw "Turnpike/6.01-U"
>
>so knew it was a windows box!
And anyway, since most PC users are likely (by a long way) to be using Windows I think it's a
reasonable assumption myself.
(If someone isn't then they are likely to say so IME)
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Chris French, Leeds
>Scrumpy Joe <none@none.com> wrote in news:bh8o1h$vjg92$1@ID-47909.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
>> I notice that every one has automatically assumed that you use MS Windows...
>
>we checked the "User-Agent:" and saw "Turnpike/6.01-U"
>
>so knew it was a windows box!
And anyway, since most PC users are likely (by a long way) to be using Windows I think it's a
reasonable assumption myself.
(If someone isn't then they are likely to say so IME)
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Scrumpy Joe
Mike Causer wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:30:48 +0100, Trevor Barton wrote:
>
>> Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>>
>> Linux + iptables?
>
> Linux + Shorewall (which makes iptables rules a lot easier to implement).
>
>
> Mike
Hmmm.. Shorewall, I found to be a PITA to setup which is why I recommend GuardDog. However, this is
the beauty of Open Source software because we are all free to pick and choose what works best for us
not what someone else thinks is best for us...
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:30:48 +0100, Trevor Barton wrote:
>
>> Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>>
>> Linux + iptables?
>
> Linux + Shorewall (which makes iptables rules a lot easier to implement).
>
>
> Mike
Hmmm.. Shorewall, I found to be a PITA to setup which is why I recommend GuardDog. However, this is
the beauty of Open Source software because we are all free to pick and choose what works best for us
not what someone else thinks is best for us...
Mike Causer
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:05:47 +0100, Scrumpy Joe wrote:
> However, this is the beauty of Open Source software because we are all free to pick and choose
> what works best for us not what someone else thinks is best for us...
Amen brother!
And we can even get into the development process to make it even more to our liking. (No I don't do
kernel, but I do do scanner stuff and anti-spam ;-)
Mike
> However, this is the beauty of Open Source software because we are all free to pick and choose
> what works best for us not what someone else thinks is best for us...
Amen brother!
And we can even get into the development process to make it even more to our liking. (No I don't do
kernel, but I do do scanner stuff and anti-spam ;-)
Mike
Victor Meldrew
In article <dE5SUqCcBtN$EweZ@rainow.demon.co.uk>, Victor Meldrew <vic@rainowbra.demon.co.uk> writes
>Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
Thanks to everyone for their help.
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>Can anyone point me in the direction of any free software to do the job?
>
Thanks to everyone for their help.
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