Strong increase in doping among Flemish amateurs
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From Dutch newssite NU.nl: http://www.nu.nl/news.jsp?n=192218&c=40
Translation:
Strong increase in doping use among Flemish (Belgium) sporters
Flemish sporters are eating heavily from the pot of prohibited means, especially amateur cyclists.
In the first half of this year the Flemish anti doping inspectors have caught almost as many
sporters as in the whole of 2002, as reported on tuesday by the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper.
The inspectors completed 1247 tests in the first half of this year. In these tests 78 sporters (6.3
%) were caught. In 2002 only 81 athletes were caught in the whole year. This increase is not only
the result of more tests. In some sports the use of doping really is increasing. Especially in
cycling the Flemish administration saw an increase: last year 19 cyclists were caught in 613 tests,
this year already 41 on 424.
This doesn't concern mayor races or professional cyclists. In these categories the UCI performs
their own tests. The Flemish inspectors primarily visit races in the lower categories. "The poison
of the peloton has to be caught", responded Laurent de Backer, the chairman of the Belgium
Cyclingfederation, in Het Nieuwsblad "A group of mainly older amateurs in on the wrong track".
Those hunters actually say that they have better inside information on what's going on and adjust
their choice of events to that. So they are working more selectively, but of course all the media
report on 'increase in doping'.
Actually they are most active at masters races and small alternative federations events. In
principle they can also test at purely recreational wielertoerisme events. Which is ridiculous, as
it would require all Joe Doe's like me to hand in medical forms on asthma medication of whatever
medication used recently.
another point: Not surprisingly, they find -relatively- a lot of cannabis in the lower unions team
sports, mainly soccer teams who hardly train and have the soccer just as an occasion for the
socializing and fun. Given the current situation, where small cannabis use is actually allowed by
the judicial authorities, pinpointing and stigmatising (non-problematic) users as dopers by a health
authority is silly.
Bart Van Hoorebeeck wrote:
>
> Actually they are most active at masters races and small alternative federations events.
Van Hoorebeeck Bart <bart.vanhoorebeeck@wvc.vlaanderen.be> wrote in message
news:<3F433D76.6A9A66F4@wvc.vlaanderen.be>...
>
> another point: Not surprisingly, they find -relatively- a lot of cannabis in the lower unions team
> sports, mainly soccer teams who hardly train and have the soccer just as an occasion for the
> socializing and fun. Given the current situation, where small cannabis use is actually allowed by
> the judicial authorities, pinpointing and stigmatising (non-problematic) users as dopers by a
> health authority is silly.
One thing that stands out though - we are being told that drugs cannot be detected if used properly.
If that is so explain why there was this sudden and intense increase in detection.
I propose that drugs are not all that common as we are lead to believe and that all of the talk
about the common use of drugs is leading to increases in the use of drugs as others start to think
that they cannot compete BECAUSE of drug use by all of the others.
In article <484e7721.0308200750.7614e224@posting.google.com>, Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Van Hoorebeeck Bart <bart.vanhoorebeeck@wvc.vlaanderen.be> wrote in message
> news:<3F433D76.6A9A66F4@wvc.vlaanderen.be>...
> >
> > another point: Not surprisingly, they find -relatively- a lot of cannabis in the lower unions
> > team sports, mainly soccer teams who hardly train and have the soccer just as an occasion for
> > the socializing and fun. Given the current situation, where small cannabis use is actually
> > allowed by the judicial authorities, pinpointing and stigmatising (non-problematic) users as
> > dopers by a health authority is silly.
>
> One thing that stands out though - we are being told that drugs cannot be detected if used
> properly. If that is so explain why there was this sudden and intense increase in detection.
>
> I propose that drugs are not all that common as we are lead to believe and that all of the talk
> about the common use of drugs is leading to increases in the use of drugs as others start to think
> that they cannot compete BECAUSE of drug use by all of the others.
In amateur events the drugs of choice are cheap and relatively easy to detect. The same result would
happen in the US if testing occurred at amateur and D3 pro events.
-WG
The word from one of the guys I coach in Belgium is that the racing is getting easier in the heat
wave, his theory is that they cant take drugs in the heat or they will die...
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:03:56 +0200, "Ronald" <ronaldvt_removethispart@hotmail.com> wrote:
>From Dutch newssite NU.nl: http://www.nu.nl/news.jsp?n=192218&c=40
>
>Translation:
>
>Strong increase in doping use among Flemish (Belgium) sporters
>
>Flemish sporters are eating heavily from the pot of prohibited means, especially amateur cyclists.
>In the first half of this year the Flemish anti doping inspectors have caught almost as many
>sporters as in the whole of 2002, as reported on tuesday by the Het Nieuwsblad newspaper.
>
>The inspectors completed 1247 tests in the first half of this year. In these tests 78 sporters (6.3
>%) were caught. In 2002 only 81 athletes were caught in the whole year. This increase is not only
>the result of more tests. In some sports the use of doping really is increasing. Especially in
>cycling the Flemish administration saw an increase: last year 19 cyclists were caught in 613 tests,
>this year already 41 on 424.
>
>This doesn't concern mayor races or professional cyclists. In these categories the UCI performs
>their own tests. The Flemish inspectors primarily visit races in the lower categories. "The poison
>of the peloton has to be caught", responded Laurent de Backer, the chairman of the Belgium
>Cyclingfederation, in Het Nieuwsblad "A group of mainly older amateurs in on the wrong track".
"john lee" <john.lee@forestresearch.co.nz> wrote in message news:3f43e75b.5342046@news...
> The word from one of the guys I coach in Belgium is that the racing is getting easier in the heat
> wave, his theory is that they cant take drugs in the heat or they will die...
>
There's also the fact that Belgians call three(?) days in a row above 30 a "heat wave". I do notice
the attrition rate is much higher when it's warm, but I figure it's because Belgians aren't as well
adapted to the heat. Dammit what am I saying! It's the lack of drugs. Must be.
Jeff
"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:3f43f43f$0$289$ba620e4c@reader0.news.skynet.be...
>
> "john lee" <john.lee@forestresearch.co.nz> wrote in message news:3f43e75b.5342046@news...
> > The word from one of the guys I coach in Belgium is that the racing is getting easier in the
> > heat wave, his theory is that they cant take drugs in the heat or they will die...
> >
> There's also the fact that Belgians call three(?) days in a row above 30 a "heat wave". I do
> notice the attrition rate is much higher when it's warm, but I figure it's because Belgians aren't
> as well adapted to the heat. Dammit what am I saying! It's the lack of drugs. Must be.
You could both be right. I could be a combination of: 1) lack of acclimatization 2) lack of
amphetamines.
Jeff Jones schreef:
>
> There's also the fact that Belgians call three(?) days in a row above 30 a "heat wave".
It's 5 'summer' days in a row ( >25 C), among which 3 'tropical' (>30 C) .
:-)
Yes it reflects what we're used to, normally we only have a handful >=30 in the whole year.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:54:02 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> Yes it reflects what we're used to, normally we only have a handful >=30 in the whole year.
The definitions are the same here. We had a record this summer, never happened: 7 days in a row >=30
(at De Bilt).
"Ewoud Dronkert" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:9f59kvs08tmsjh9pjtvvstbck5kar6bdu2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:54:02 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> > Yes it reflects what we're used to, normally we only have a handful >=30
in
> > the whole year.
>
> The definitions are the same here. We had a record this summer, never happened: 7 days in a row
> >=30 (at De Bilt).
You guys are so soft. Come spend a summer in the US deep South.
"Ewoud Dronkert" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:9f59kvs08tmsjh9pjtvvstbck5kar6bdu2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:54:02 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> > Yes it reflects what we're used to, normally we only have a handful >=30
in
> > the whole year.
>
> The definitions are the same here. We had a record this summer, never happened: 7 days in a row
> >=30 (at De Bilt).
Seven days is a record? Damn, I was just starting to get used to it.
That said, summers of 20-25 degrees are actually not bad at all.
Jeff
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:L%V0b.5056$Nc.3206626@news1.news.adelphia.net...
>
> You could both be right. I could be a combination of: 1) lack of acclimatization 2) lack of
> amphetamines.
>
I agree, but I'd guess that the acclimatisation is the greater factor by a fair margin because on
hot days, a lot of pack fodder guys disappear much quicker. These guys (from my observations)
aren't the ones taking amphetamines (it's *really* not worth it), but they make up a large chunk of
the peloton.
Also the same top guys still tend to dominate when it's hot, which doesn't mean they're not taking
anything, but if they are then it's probably not amphetamines.
Jeff (enjoys racing when it's warm)
"warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message news:200820030923209875%warren@usvhremove.com...
> In amateur events the drugs of choice are cheap and relatively easy
to
> detect. The same result would happen in the US if testing occurred
at
> amateur and D3 pro events.
There would probably be a load of positives for caffeine and ephidrine since it is in all of the
cold medicines and people sometimes use this stuff to clear sinus blockages.
But give me a break, what sort of dumb SOB dopes to win a Cat 4 race? Sounds like something
Henry would do.
In article <0td1b.2421$Ej6.979@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Tom Kunich
<tkunich@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message news:200820030923209875%warren@usvhremove.com...
> > In amateur events the drugs of choice are cheap and relatively easy
> to
> > detect. The same result would happen in the US if testing occurred
> at
> > amateur and D3 pro events.
>
> There would probably be a load of positives for caffeine and ephidrine since it is in all of the
> cold medicines and people sometimes use this stuff to clear sinus blockages.
>
> But give me a break, what sort of dumb SOB dopes to win a Cat 4 race?
Caffeine. What % of racers drink some amount of fluid before a race or training mainly for the
caffeine in it?
How's this for dumb? The guy who just got busted in the Pan Am Games for doping in the TT finished
19th out of 20 riders.
-WG
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