If I were a Mideval Siege Warrior
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And rushing some heavily fortified position, I'd like to go in with Tyler Hamilton.
As you're rushing in on the ramparts and see all the spears in the
It makes for a good story to tell the people back home after the battle.
So you edge in to TH's side just as your rush is coming onto the spears and he jumps joyously onto
the spear in front of him, swinging his sword as he does so. You go in behind him at the last moment
and manage to make it into the melee. The guy behind you takes the spear which was meant for you.
Tyler Hamilton. He's a good guy to have around, especially when someone's trying to stick a spear
into your ass.
as evidenced by this photo: http://www.velonews.com/images/int/4859.5984.f.jpg
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> And rushing some heavily fortified position, I'd like to go in with Tyler Hamilton.
>
> As you're rushing in on the ramparts and see all the spears in the
But
body.
> It makes for a good story to tell the people back home after the battle.
>
> So you edge in to TH's side just as your rush is coming onto the spears
and
> he jumps joyously onto the spear in front of him, swinging his sword as he does so. You go in
> behind him at the last moment and manage to make it
into
> the melee. The guy behind you takes the spear which was meant for you.
>
> Tyler Hamilton. He's a good guy to have around, especially when someone's trying to stick a spear
> into your ass.
It doesn't seem to phase him in the least. Does he practice yoga or meditation?
"Scott" <smckin@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:4f81b.3775$4r2.427@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> as evidenced by this photo: http://www.velonews.com/images/int/4859.5984.f.jpg
>
>
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7H61b.5363$Nc.3406123@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > And rushing some heavily fortified position, I'd like to go in with
Tyler
> > Hamilton.
> >
> > As you're rushing in on the ramparts and see all the spears in the
> But
> body.
> > It makes for a good story to tell the people back home after the battle.
> >
> > So you edge in to TH's side just as your rush is coming onto the spears
> and
> > he jumps joyously onto the spear in front of him, swinging his sword as
he
> > does so. You go in behind him at the last moment and manage to make it
> into
> > the melee. The guy behind you takes the spear which was meant for you.
> >
> > Tyler Hamilton. He's a good guy to have around, especially when
someone's
> > trying to stick a spear into your ass.
> >
>
"Scott" <smckin@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> as evidenced by this photo: http://www.velonews.com/images/int/4859.5984.f.jpg
Tyler is not squeamish over a little blood. Damn!
>Tyler Hamilton. He's a good guy to have around, especially when someone's trying to stick a spear
>into your ass.
Well, lesseee. If you were involved in a midieval siege, you would be way back in the rear
sharpening battleaxes and cleaning armor. You are way too small and effeminate to actually
voluntarily experience violence. Maybe they would use you as catapult shot, you know, infect you
with the black plague and launch you over the ramparts to spread the disease among the enemy. So,
maybe even a wimpy lil dude like you wouldn't be totally useless in the battle. Hell, if those
French guys in The Holy Grail could hold off King Arthur, Sir Robin, etc, maybe there is hope for
you. The other thing I was thinkin, is, you probably like a big spear up your ass every now and
again (though perhaps not one with a sharp pointy tip)... The whole concept is freaky and
bassackwards.
Greg
"Bikerecker" <bikerecker@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Tyler Hamilton. He's a good guy to have around, especially when someone's trying to stick a spear
> >into your ass.
>
> Well, lesseee. If you were involved in a midieval siege, you would be way back in the
rear
> sharpening battleaxes and cleaning armor.
<snip>
If one could manage it, that would be the smart place to be.
Bikerecker wrote:
> Well, lesseee. If you were involved in a midieval siege, you would be way back in the rear
> sharpening battleaxes and cleaning armor. You are way too small and effeminate to actually
> voluntarily experience violence.
I think Kurg is several inches taller than the average medieval knight was.
"Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3f45aec6$0$26835$626a54ce@news.free.fr...
> Bikerecker wrote:
> > Well, lesseee. If you were involved in a midieval siege, you would be way back in the rear
> > sharpening battleaxes and cleaning armor. You are way too small and effeminate to actually
> > voluntarily experience violence.
>
> I think Kurg is several inches taller than the average medieval knight was.
5'11, 172.
I'd still rather be sharpening the axes or improving the siege engines than up on the front line,
charging with the Dumbasses.
TritonRider wrote:
> I think Riis has converted him to the Old Nordic Ways. Good Viking Tyler!
He's going to have to clean off all that dirty blood if he does go to compulsively neat and clean
Switzerland with Phonak.
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> "Robert Chung" wrote
>>
>> I think Kurg is several inches taller than the average medieval knight was.
>
> 5'11, 172.
You been eating the flesh of happy cows and chickens?
"Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3f45cf5e$0$26831$626a54ce@news.free.fr...
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> > "Robert Chung" wrote
> >>
> >> I think Kurg is several inches taller than the average medieval knight was.
> >
> > 5'11, 172.
>
> You been eating the flesh of happy cows and chickens?
The cows were probably happy.
Chickens? Probably unhappy, unfortunately. It sucks.
I'll bet someday in the distant future that factory chicken farming will be outlawed. That
isn't right.
Besides, it's not like we need the calories.
Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > You been eating the flesh of happy cows and chickens?
> The cows were probably happy. Chickens? Probably unhappy, unfortunately. It sucks.
Happy cows are all alike; each unhappy chicken is unhappy in its own way. No, wait, that's
not right ...
I prefer eating happy animals out of spite. Why should a chicken be happier than me?
> I'll bet someday in the distant future that factory chicken farming will be outlawed. That
> isn't right.
I'll bet you a limo full of Tyson Farms lobbyists versus a truckload of Soylent Green that you are
wrong, unfortunately.
> Besides, it's not like we need the calories.
That doesn't seem to have stopped the food industry before.
BTW, your post that began this thread kind of reminds me of the strange half-waking dreams that I
have after eating too large a burrito, but I don't normally post them to Usenet.
Benjamin Weiner wrote:
>
> Happy cows are all alike; each unhappy chicken is unhappy in its own way. No, wait, that's not
> right ...
>
> I prefer eating happy animals out of spite. Why should a chicken be happier than me?
How would Tolstoy explain schadenfreude?
If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
"Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3f46ffd5$0$6232$626a54ce@news.free.fr...
> Benjamin Weiner wrote:
>
> How would Tolstoy explain schadenfreude?
>
> If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
Of course that would explain why their are so many pussies in bike racing.
Dashii
Robert Chung <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
I might rather be a vegetable than a chicken. But it's more likely I am a fruit or nut.
> Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> > I prefer eating happy animals out of spite. Why should a chicken be happier than me?
> How would Tolstoy explain schadenfreude?
He wouldn't consciously approve, but perhaps this is why "The Kreutzer Sonata" has a narrator figure
besides the protagonist.
BTW, from "The Kreutzer Sonata," here is some meat for Henry's delusional anti-Fattie crusade:
"The usual food of a young peasant is rye bread, kvass, and onions; he keeps alive and is vigorous
and healthy; his work is light agricultural work. When he goes to railway work his rations are
buckwheat porridge and a pound of meat a day. But he works off that pound of meat during his
sixteen hours' work wheeling barrow-loads of half-a-ton weight, so it is just enough for him. But
we [the upper class] who every day consume two pounds of meat, and game, and fish and all sorts of
heating foods and drinks -- where does that go to? Into excesses of sensuality."
Dashi Toshii wrote:
>> If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
>
> Of course that would explain why their are so many pussies in bike racing.
What about the assholes?
I wrote:
> Robert Chung <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> > If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
> I might rather be a vegetable than a chicken.
Argh, that sounds like I'd rather be mentally disabled than thought cowardly (I am in fact a
chicken, or at least a poor descender). I was just disrespecting the life of a chicken. Vegetables
at least get to sit in the sunlight before being rendered.
Benjamin Weiner, quoting Tolstoy, wrote:
> "The usual food of a young peasant is rye bread, kvass, and onions; he keeps alive and is
> vigorous and healthy; his work is light agricultural work."
A colleague of mine who has looked at the diet of Irish peasants just prior to the famine claims
that their diet consisted mostly of potatoes and buttermilk (i.e., what was left of the milk after
the butterfat was removed), and buttermilk and potatoes. He says that adult male peasants averaged
around 4200 g of potatoes a day during the height of the season. He was making a seminar
presentation at the time and this number appeared on a slide so I stopped him and asked if that was
a typo. He said it wasn't.
"Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3f485868$0$16541$626a54ce@news.free.fr...
> Dashi Toshii wrote:
> >> If you are what you eat, why would you want to be a vegetable?
> >
> > Of course that would explain why their are so many pussies in bike racing.
>
> What about the assholes?
Quite a few of them around also, hate to think what that would mean if your statement were true!
Dashii
"Robert Chung" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3f4883b3$0$16559$626a54ce@news.free.fr...
> Benjamin Weiner, quoting Tolstoy, wrote:
> > "The usual food of a young peasant is rye bread, kvass, and onions; he keeps alive and is
> > vigorous and healthy; his work is light agricultural work."
>
> A colleague of mine who has looked at the diet of Irish peasants just prior to the famine claims
> that their diet consisted mostly of potatoes and buttermilk (i.e., what was left of the milk after
> the butterfat was removed), and buttermilk and potatoes. He says that adult male peasants averaged
> around 4200 g of potatoes a day during the height of the season. He was making a seminar
> presentation at the time and this number appeared on a slide so I stopped him and asked if that
> was a typo. He said it wasn't.
>
If they were mainly living off potatoes and milk, then it's not implausible. 1kg of potato contains
about 700 kcal, which means they were getting around 2900 kcal of their daily energy from potatoes.
If they were using up 3500-4000 kcal/day as hard working peasants, then it's certainly possible to
remain in energy balance (if that's what they were doing). But that's a whole lotta potato to
stomach in a day. Ouch. And a really boring diet. You can get most of your protein and vitamin needs
from potatoes and milk though.
By comparison, bread contains about 2500 kcal/kg, and the dried starches (pasta, rice, etc) contain
about 3600 kcal/kg. Pure sugar is 4000 kcal/kg.
Jeff
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