Fantastic trail in Hope, Derbyshire?

[Alexander T. Sm]

As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route
in/near Hope, Derbyshire.

Google-ing only found dead links for me, so if there are any up-to-date route descriptions I'd
really like to know. Post here for everyone's benefit please... ;-)

Alex.
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[Tenex]

Alexander T. Smith wrote:
> As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route in/near Hope, Derbyshire.
>
> Google-ing only found dead links for me, so if there are any up-to-date route descriptions I'd
> really like to know. Post here for everyone's benefit please... ;-)
>
> Alex.

There are a few around there - I downloaded a headcam descent MPEG - it was great - I'll try
and find it.

[Rich Gardiner]

Hi,

i'm building up a UK trails guidebook type site. just going through a revamp at the mo to allow
riders to submit their favourite routes.,I've a description of a route around Edale/mam tor/jacob's
ladder if that's what you're after. v.close to hope

http://www.ridefree.org.uk/trailindex/routedesc.php?id=8

new look site will be based on www.ridefree.org.uk/RFtest any suggestions/feedback from riders would
be appreciated!

cheers,

Rich.

"Alexander T. Smith" <look@bottom.of.article> wrote in message
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>
> As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route
> in/near Hope, Derbyshire.
>
> Google-ing only found dead links for me, so if there are any up-to-date route descriptions I'd
> really like to know. Post here for everyone's benefit please... ;-)
>
> Alex.
> --
> http://homepages.enterprise.net/alexsmith Warning: Anti-UCE address in "From" line. a e enter ri t
> l xsmith@ p se.ne

[Tenex]

Tenex wrote:
> Alexander T. Smith wrote:
>> As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route in/near Hope,
>> Derbyshire.
>>
>> Google-ing only found dead links for me, so if there are any up-to-date route descriptions I'd
>> really like to know. Post here for everyone's benefit please... ;-)
>>
>> Alex.
>
> There are a few around there - I downloaded a headcam descent MPEG - it was great - I'll try and
> find it.

Haven't had time to look properly but have a look at this page http://tinyurl.com/lni7 they are
great descents. I'll try and find the Hope one.

[Peter B]

"Alexander T. Smith" <look@bottom.of.article> wrote in message
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>
> As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route
> in/near Hope, Derbyshire.

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=414500&y=383500&z=3&sv=414500,383500
&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf Check out the bridleway from Hollins Cross to
Woodseats. (Done that). Also the Limestone Way into Castleton by Peveril Castle. (I've only gone up
and it's steep!).

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=417500&y=385500&z=3&sv=417500,385500
&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf Check out the bridleway/roman road near Hope Brink.
A good route is to park at Fairholmes in the Derwent Valley then ride north along the reservoir on
the paved road then head off left on a bridleway (steep climb) to Rowlees Farm. Cross over the A57
then make a left turn onto the Roman road:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=415500&y=388500&z=3&sv=415500,388500
&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf Then go via Aston back to the A57 at the Ladybower
viaduct and climb up to Cutthroat Bridge from Ashopton then drop down Derwent Edge and back to
Fairholmes! http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=420500&y=387500&z=3&sv=420500,387500
&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf It's reasonably easy to follow on an OS map.

Pete

[Tony Raven]

In news:ant2922510b0sMWy@alexsmith.enterprise.net, Alexander T. Smith
<look@bottom.of.article> typed:
> As the subject suggests, a friend says he has heard of a fantastic route in/near Hope, Derbyshire.
>
> Google-ing only found dead links for me, so if there are any up-to-date route descriptions I'd
> really like to know. Post here for everyone's benefit please... ;-)
>

Theres a number of very good trails around Hope. One of the best is currently closed in one section
for work on the Pennine Bridleway but goes from Barber Booth up Jacobs Ladder (carry) then straight
on down to Hayfield (remembering to turn left onto the Bridleway by the big white roadside stone at
the top of a short road climb. Then up Highgate road, peeling off onto Bridleway near Rowan Farm.
Turn left at the top of the track and follow clear bridleway around Mount Famine, Royce Clough (the
closed bit), Rushup Edge, Mam Tor, Hollins Cross and back down to Edale and on to Hope.

The other is one of a variety of options heading up Jaggers Clough to Hope Cross, turn left and down
to Rowlee Bridge, across the road and up past Rowlee Farm, left at the top past Lockerbrook Farm and
down to Ladybower Reservoir. Turn right and stop at the car park for the cafe then on down the road
for a left up past Crookhill Farm (killer ascent on tarmac), across Bridge End Pasture and down past
Hagg Farm. Back across the road and along the reservoir before climbing (a carry) back to Hope Cross
and then left for a long run down to Townshead Bridge and back to Hope.

Lots of other routes you can make up from the bridleways in the area. Riding can get quite
technical though

Tony

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[Simon Brooke]

"Rich Gardiner" <admin@NOSPAMPLEASEskookum.co.uk> writes:

> new look site will be based on www.ridefree.org.uk/RFtest any suggestions/feedback from riders
> would be appreciated!

I'm a bore on this subject, I know, but

(i) Don't assume everyone has a white background. If you're going to accept my colour preferences
(which is nice of you) then you'd be better setting all your image backgrounds to transparent.
Otherwise, use a stylesheet which sets foreground and background colours for all selectors.

(ii) Don't use text-as-graphics. If you do, it isn't going to scale for people who use very high
resolution screens or very small screens, or for people with visual acuity defects; and it's
much slower to download. You can achieve the same mouseover effects using the 'hover'
pseudoclass selector and it's quicker, easier, and easier to maintain (yes, you can even do your
change-from-blue-ball-to-yellow-disk with CSS)

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[Peter B]

"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
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> Turn left at the top of the track and follow clear bridleway around Mount Famine, Royce Clough
> (the closed bit), Rushup Edge, Mam Tor, Hollins Cross and back down to Edale and on to Hope.

Ah, Royce Clough, referred to as Roys Crotch by our small group :-) I think it should have been
reopened back in Easter but was postponed til July but I noticed when I did the Phil & Friends ride
Aug 17 it was still closed. However I could see the current works from the road so maybe it's
nearly finished.

Pete

[Tony Raven]

In news:bis6ug$m6u$1@titan.btinternet.com, Peter B <peter28@btinternet.com> typed:
>
> Ah, Royce Clough, referred to as Roys Crotch by our small group :-) I think it should have been
> reopened back in Easter but was postponed til July but I noticed when I did the Phil & Friends
> ride Aug 17 it was still closed. However I could see the current works from the road so maybe it's
> nearly finished.
>

Went round it last week to see how they were getting on and talk to the guys doing the work. The
closure has been extended to the end of October but it looks more like Christmas to me before they
move on and do the bit over Mt Famine and Caldwell Clough. The rock steps have been preserved and
they were just at the bottom of doing the drop into the Clough from the Rushup end.

Tony

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[Rich Gardiner]

Cheers Simon,

I know this is a little off topic but i'm aware of the css hover
pseudoclass, but can you use a hover action to activate the layers of my DHTML menu? as far as i
know this can only be achieved through an OnClick javascript operation. the submenus and rest of
the page is all CSS styled. The menu shall be carrying open OnLoad states depending on sections
and i believe this is out of the remit of CSS

I'm about to but in a user selectable stylesheet so that users can congiure fontsize

Cheers, for the tips on the background though...had completely forgotten about that

ta,

Rich.

"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
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> "Rich Gardiner" <admin@NOSPAMPLEASEskookum.co.uk> writes:
>
> > new look site will be based on www.ridefree.org.uk/RFtest any suggestions/feedback from riders
> > would be appreciated!
>
> I'm a bore on this subject, I know, but
>
> (i) Don't assume everyone has a white background. If you're going to accept my colour preferences
> (which is nice of you) then you'd be better setting all your image backgrounds to
> transparent. Otherwise, use a stylesheet which sets foreground and background colours for all
> selectors.
>
> (ii) Don't use text-as-graphics. If you do, it isn't going to scale for people who use very high
> resolution screens or very small screens, or for people with visual acuity defects; and it's
> much slower to download. You can achieve the same mouseover effects using the 'hover'
> pseudoclass selector and it's quicker, easier, and easier to maintain (yes, you can even do your
> change-from-blue-ball-to-yellow-disk with CSS)
>
> --
> simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> ;; ... exposing the violence incoherent in the system...

[Stevie D]

Peter B wrote:

> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=414500&y=383500&z=3&sv=414500,383500
> &st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=417500&y=385500&z=3&sv=417500,385500
> &st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=415500&y=388500&z=3&sv=415500,388500
> &st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=420500&y=387500&z=3&sv=420500,387500
> &st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

D'oh!

Streetmap are very helpful to people like us - if you look just below the map, there is an
"abbreviated" address for the page that you can use to link to. The first one looks like this:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=414500&Y=383500&A=Y&Z=3

which is likely to fit on one line for most people.

You don't even need the "A=Y&" towards the end, that just sticks an arrow in the middle of it.

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[Colin Blackburn]

In article <u8kblvk7cmdfjo8eq3crv9smr50qv233nb@4ax.com>, stevieinyorkNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk says...

> Streetmap are very helpful to people like us - if you look just below the map, there is an
> "abbreviated" address for the page that you can use to link to. The first one looks like this:
>
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=414500&Y=383500&A=Y&Z=3
>
> which is likely to fit on one line for most people.
>
> You don't even need the "A=Y&" towards the end, that just sticks an arrow in the middle of it.

Pedantically it is the &A=Y which you don't need.

Colin

[Stevie D]

Colin Blackburn wrote:

> Pedantically it is the &A=Y which you don't need.

The end result is the same, so it makes no difference.

So there.

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[Peter B]

"Stevie D" <stevieinyorkNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Streetmap are very helpful to people like us - if you look just below the map, there is an
> "abbreviated" address for the page that you can use to link to. The first one looks like this:

Thanks Stevie. I hadn't noticed it, another little arrow added to my quiver of knowledge :-)

Pete