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Hey Bro, good to see you back in here.

It seems films are a big hobby for you. You really sound like you appreciate film-making. Ever thought of being a critic? You remind me of Walter Chaw at Film Freak Central. I like his reviews. Nice and cerebral and he really knows how to peel the onion IMO.

I don't race road bikes anymore. My main competitive sport is now ultra distance trail running. I am not feeling too elite at the moment. I recently DNSed at a 100 mile race when I contracted food poisoning two days before the start. There went a few hundred hours of training down the drain. :mad:That would be a bummer.

You talkin' about 100 miles on foot, up and down trails? Man - that's almost four marathons! How long does that take? Do you break it up?

If you can run and cycle, wouldn't triathlons be something that you'd be good at? Or can't you swim?

Nah. Pin doesn't come out. Doctor says I lose mobility. He wasn't real specific. I just wanted to know if anybody has any experience with this and how much mobility will be gone.
Might not be applicable, but a mate (We are on an Australian website so I have to use that term even though it sounds gay to American ears.) of mine farked up his wrist and now he is afraid to ski because he might fall on it again. It has affected what sports he is willing to participate in.

Might not be applicable, but a mate (We are on an Australian website so I have to use that term even though it sounds gay to American ears.) of mine farked up his wrist and now he is afraid to ski because he might fall on it again. It has affected what sports he is willing to participate in.The one good thing about biking should be that, given your bike geometry is right for you, and your not Tom Boonen, you don't really put much pressure on your wrist riding (unless I'm mistaken). But falling over you can.

That would be a bummer.

You talkin' about 100 miles on foot, up and down trails? Man - that's almost four marathons! How long does that take? Do you break it up?
They are always continuous. Usually you start in the dark one morning and finish sometime the next day. Maximum times vary by the race. The mountain races typically have cut off times of 30 or 36 hours and they have 15K to 25K feet of climbing. It's a wonderful way of discovering whole new worlds of suffering.

They are always continuous. Usually you start in the dark one morning and finish sometime the next day. Maximum times vary by the race. The mountain races typically have cut off times of 30 or 36 hours and they have 15K to 25K feet of climbing. It's a wonderful way of discovering whole new worlds of suffering.How do you feed and water yourself? And I added a question about triathlons to that previous post you responded to.

How do you feed and water yourself? And I added a question about triathlons to that previous post you responded to.
There are checkpoints that offer fluids and food. Everyone has their own strategy for taking in calories. Some people rely on what the checkpoints provide. I like to use all my own stuff so I spend less time in checkpoints.

When I couldn't race, I ended up crewing for someone who was racing his first hundred. He started out with a plan to eat a package of Cliff Shot Bloks every hour. That worked for about fifty miles and then he could not stand the taste any longer. He switched to eating whatever he could stomach that was being offered at checkpoints. That amounted to cups of soup, hot chocolate, potatos, etc. He then got really sick and death marched the last part of the course at two miles per hour, not sure if he would make it to the finish before time expired. He had a pacer with him for a little more than twenty miles during the night, and he started hallucinating at one point. His pacer had to stop him from going off trail to catch crayfish in an imaginary lake.

These sorts of races have really taken off. All the popular ones have lotteries for entry. There must be about four dozen or so hundreds in the U.S. now.

As for triathlon, I have probs with swimming. Namely I suck.

There are checkpoints that offer fluids and food. Everyone has their own strategy for taking in calories. Some people rely on what the checkpoints provide. I like to use all my own stuff so I spend less time in checkpoints.

When I couldn't race, I ended up crewing for someone who was racing his first hundred. He started out with a plan to eat a package of Cliff Shot Bloks every hour. That worked for about fifty miles and then he could not stand the taste any longer. He switched to eating whatever he could stomach that was being offered at checkpoints. That amounted to cups of soup, hot chocolate, potatos, etc. He then got really sick and death marched the last part of the course at two miles per hour, not sure if he would make it to the finish before time expired. He had a pacer with him for a little more than twenty miles during the night, and he started hallucinating at one point. His pacer had to stop him from going off trail to catch crayfish in an imaginary lake.

These sorts of races have really taken off. All the popular ones have lotteries for entry. There must be about four dozen or so hundreds in the U.S. now.

As for triathlon, I have probs with swimming. Namely I suck.Great story. And it will attract the right people to the sport. Namely massochists. But it really makes the typical road marathon seem like a middle distance race in comparison.

When you say your own food, do you mean you carry it, or your support team caries it, or the organizers take it to the foodstops for you?

And eating and running for me is much more difficult than eating and riding, due to the bouncing of my stomach in the former. Is this a problem, avoiding nausea?

How have you gone in the races you've completed?

Here you go, Cranky. A hundred in your neck of the woods. Cascade Crest in Easton, Washington.

Looks like a nice altitude profile.
http://www.cascadecrest100.com/images/courseprofile.jpg

Here you go, Cranky. A hundred in your neck of the woods. Cascade Crest in Easton, Washington.

Looks like a nice altitude profile.
http://www.cascadecrest100.com/images/courseprofile.jpgI'd be flat out doing that profile on a bike on pavement.

My right knee is farked for running. Three arthroscopies due to sports injuries. That's why I cycle. Running will just make my knee worse. But hats off to you if you can do something like that.

That last hill wouldn't be much fun. And I just realized, running downhill would be a lot harder than riding downhill.

When you say your own food, do you mean you carry it, or your support team caries it, or the organizers take it to the foodstops for you?
Some of the checkpoints have drop bags. I usually get most of my calories from various types of sugar. Sports drink, gels, and such. Currently I am using Ultrafuel powder that is supplemented with the contents of a Saltstick electrolyte capsule. I will mix the sports drink with water provided by a checkpoint, and that way I know how many calories I am taking in as well as know that my stomach will tolerate the drink since I train with it. I'll take enough small bags of Ultrafuel and gels to get me to the next major checkpoint. Anything that looks good at a checkpoint, like fruit, is fair game.

How have you gone in the races you've completed?
I think I am like most people who come from a cycling background: I suck at running. It turns out, though, that these types of races are so long and brutal that endurance and the ability to just keep moving forward, no matter what the speed, are just as important as running. The true mountain courses have a lot of sections that are too steep to run anyway; you hike to the top and run downhill to gain time. End result is that while I have no doubt that the majority of people I race against could smoke me in a 10K on asphalt, I do well on rough trail races that last longer than eight hours.

It's too bad really. The forum was very lively the past few years, we always had dope talk but that was generally aimed at one rider and because only one rider doped before last season we could handle it,,,, as soon as he retired, everyone started doping. :rolleyes: :D



Seriously, you could not express your thoughts on any thread without having the same droning, adnusium, sophomoric, childish, repetitive, repetitive, repetitive replies from a handful of trolls. You could not talk about pedals without Heckle and Jeckle chiming in about cow blood, bags of blood, wizzinators, potbildge, Guinness, EPO, cow blood, bovine blood and cow blood.

I enjoy reading many of the community member’s thoughts here and I like constructive thoughts and criticisms but this forum has become a very sour and bitter place in recent months.


When the trolls run out of diapers, they will leave and things should get back to normal,,,, whatever normal is.;)



I have been out of town on a little vacation and having time reflect prompts me to make a confession.
I am responsible for a lot of the cow blood as I developed a process of quick vacumning the cows to produce jerky.
The device sucks the blood directly out leaving dried meat ready to be seasoned.
I had a lot of cow blood left I didn't need. I thought they were using it in shoe polish or something when I sold it.

Do you honestly think we'd drink an '82 Chateau Lafitte with food? It's for afterwards, with cheese m-a-y-b-e. The french wouldn't let us drink it while we're eating anyway. It would be an insult.

But you're right. The Champagne as an apretif and the Sancerre with the meal would be splendifique. You have completed my dream meal. Thanx matagi.

See Aussie's do have some culture.

[PS. Did I officially cover my ass in the above post?]
No need to if you're trying to impress me. I'm an American girl, so I'm just as happy with the perfect cheeseburger and fries (those are french) and an ice-cold longneck bottle of Bud, outside, with a great blues band playing.

Not that I'm turning down any invitations to Paris, mind you.

Hope that doesn't ruin my mystique. :p And before any of you snobs start in about Budweiser, I live in St. Louis, as in Busch Stadium, so don't bother. :D

Nah. Pin doesn't come out. Doctor says I lose mobility. He wasn't real specific. I just wanted to know if anybody has any experience with this and how much mobility will be gone.A lot depends on your age. When I was 22 I broke my wrist and healed up in six months. When I was 40 I broke my elbow in a jacked up crash. Okay, I've got to tell how jacked up it was.

I was headed to a morning ride. It was dark. I rained the night before, but, this being Miami, the roads were mostly dry. I was going about 2mph, timing my momentum with a car that was going through a green light so I could slip in behind it while running the red -- standard procedure in Miami.

I looked down at what I thought was a puddle from the night before and rolled through it. The next thing I remember was laying on my side in the intersection with traffic approaching and watching my water bottle roll by. I got up and scrambled out of the intersection. I didn't go back to look, but it had to be motor oil.

Anyway, in the fall I landed on my extend arm and cracked a part of the lower arm bone the inserts into the upper. I never regained full extension/flexion and that was three years ago. It bothered me for about 18 months.

A lot depends on your age. When I was 22 I broke my wrist and healed up in six months. When I was 40 I broke my elbow in a jacked up crash. Okay, I've got to tell how jacked up it was.

I was headed to a morning ride. It was dark. I rained the night before, but, this being Miami, the roads were mostly dry. I was going about 2mph, timing my momentum with a car that was going through a green light so I could slip in behind it while running the red -- standard procedure in Miami.

I looked down at what I thought was a puddle from the night before and rolled through it. The next thing I remember was laying on my side in the intersection with traffic approaching and watching my water bottle roll by. I got up and scrambled out of the intersection. I didn't go back to look, but it had to be motor oil.

Anyway, in the fall I landed on my extend arm and cracked a part of the lower arm bone the inserts into the upper. I never regained full extension/flexion and that was three years ago. It bothered me for about 18 months.


I agree with your point - it much harder to recover even from the most innocuous of spills, as you get older.

I'd a fall six weeks ago - crashed "slowly" landed on my forearm/wrist.
Six weeks later, my wrist isn't fully healed.
So with age, it is harder to recover more quickly.

I have been out of town on a little vacation and having time reflect prompts me to make a confession.
I am responsible for a lot of the cow blood as I developed a process of quick vacumning the cows to produce jerky.
The device sucks the blood directly out leaving dried meat ready to be seasoned.
I had a lot of cow blood left I didn't need. I thought they were using it in shoe polish or something when I sold it.


I am sorry about the shoe polish story. I used it with an associate from Madrid as a code word. We did not know that people would actually realy start to put it on their shoes.

I wasn't out of town working to restructure my work for 2008. I will organize a bike tour for kids from a childrenhome (from Cologne to the final Tour stage). My other associates (they have nothing to do with the cow blood deals, they drink beer :D ) will cover the final 10 days of the Tour, I will be at the Tour in the days before....

There will be a weblog with a daily diary of the Tour to Paris (with the kids) in German and English...

With the girl of my dreams, we could be eating bread and water and she would turn it into steak, with ice-cream for dessert;) . However, the meal would be background noise.:)


No need to if you're trying to impress me. I'm an American girl, so I'm just as happy with the perfect cheeseburger and fries (those are french) and an ice-cold longneck bottle of Bud, outside, with a great blues band playing.

Not that I'm turning down any invitations to Paris, mind you.

Hope that doesn't ruin my mystique. :p And before any of you snobs start in about Budweiser, I live in St. Louis, as in Busch Stadium, so don't bother. :D

I have been out of town on a little vacation and having time reflect prompts me to make a confession.
I am responsible for a lot of the cow blood as I developed a process of quick vacumning the cows to produce jerky.
The device sucks the blood directly out leaving dried meat ready to be seasoned.
I had a lot of cow blood left I didn't need. I thought they were using it in shoe polish or something when I sold it.I am sorry about the shoe polish story. I used it with an associate from Madrid as a code word. We did not know that people would actually realy start to put it on their shoes.

I wasn't out of town working to restructure my work for 2008. I will organize a bike tour for kids from a childrenhome (from Cologne to the final Tour stage). My other associates (they have nothing to do with the cow blood deals, they drink beer :D ) will cover the final 10 days of the Tour, I will be at the Tour in the days before....

There will be a weblog with a daily diary of the Tour to Paris (with the kids) in German and English...Welcome back guys. There's no rules in this thread now that the troll has been slayed. Post whatever takes your fancy as a prompt for discussion. Its light banter. But you may have to wade through some blather at times:) .

I agree with your point - it much harder to recover even from the most innocuous of spills, as you get older.

I'd a fall six weeks ago - crashed "slowly" landed on my forearm/wrist.
Six weeks later, my wrist isn't fully healed.
So with age, it is harder to recover more quickly.+1. That's one of the reasons why we cycle I suppose. But the flip-side of cycling being one of the gentlest sports on your joints is that if you fall off your bike onto pavement, its about as gentle as being tackled by six NFL linebackers at the same time wearing spandex without padding.