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I'm not sure there is one. Maybe gay's place a greater emphasis on the size of the package, but otherwise I think the criteria are pretty similar for both groups.

FWIW, the only actor I find even remotely sexy is Sean Connery (who I reckon has definitely improved with age). Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Heath Ledger and the rest of the current crop frankly do nothing for me.Careful. Or you'll get me asking you if there's any actresses you find sexy.

BTW matagi, how do you pronounce your handle? Is it ma-TAR-gee? Or MATT-a-GUY? Or ma-TADG-ee?

Can someone please explain to me the difference between a supposedly attractive male from a gay perspective relative to a female's perspective?


No! At least I can't.

I think you might be on to something here--not that there is anything wrong with that.

On a somewhat related note, I used to really like Outside magazine. Now every time I flip through an issue I cannot help but think of it as the "Outdoor magazine for gay yuppies." It's a total male model sausage-fest these days.

The last straw for me was an issue that reviewed several down and synthetic filled parkas. All the pictures featured male models in ties, looking like they were dressed to walk the fifty meters from their parked SUV to the door of their office. Patagonia, a company that has the motto "dedicated to the core," had their DAS Parka featured in the reviews. I felt really sorry for the company.The irony of your complaint about innapropriate advertising is perhaps that, had they used pretty girls in bikinis to model the DAS Parkas, would you have been just as upset?

No! At least I can't.We need House (Casa), or Hein-Verbruggen (Flyer) here to help answer that one, don't we.:D

Hello everyone, thanks for the Thanksgiving salutation Cranky!
Hey nns1400, I drove through Missouri last week and you would have thought the 2nd coming was happening last Saturday the way people were talking about that game. Good for your team and the win. Unfortunately for me, Tenn pulled it out over KY and my Dogs wont play for the SEC Championship.....or a national championship for that matter...freakin' Vols......

Oh well, get to move on to my favorite sport anyway, gimme a T A R H E E L S.

Can I just say that I hate Satan, I really do, but just under him, I hate DUKE. I serioulsy HATE them. I hear or read their name and I uncontrollably spit. Mike Krzyzewski....or is it Kryzweaseleski...or Kryzratfukski.....whatever, he and his band of whiney little geeks are the epitome of pure evil. The school name shouldn't be Duke anyway. It is the University of New Jersey South; in fact, the land on which the school resides should be NJ state property, and they should send an ambassador to NC...of course we would expell him/her immediately......Did I mention that I hate Duke?

Wow, kind of went off into hatredland there a little, sorry 'bout that.

Hope you all have a great holiday season!

[. Good for your team and the win. Unfortunately for me, Tenn pulled it out over KY and my Dogs wont play for the SEC Championship.....or a national championship for that matter...freakin' Vols......

Imagine my discontent with the whole situation. :D I would like to see Georgia play one of the top seeded team.
I believe the SEC teams always knock each other off and out of national contention.
We need play-offs!

Oh well, get to move on to my favorite sport anyway, gimme a T A R H E E L S.

......Did I mention that I hate Duke?

Welcome back TFF. Assume you are referring to the UNC basketball team.

And I assume that you thought those Duke lacrosse players shoulda went down as well.

I believe the SEC teams always knock each other off and out of national contention.
We need play-offs!+1. Wholeheartedly agree. The NCAA BCS system sux.

Why is there so much resistance to a more equitable system that has a better chance of determining the best football team? Probably because the teams that the present system favors want to keep the status quo. Which is the main obstruction to any change in anything I suppose.

Maybe gay's place a greater emphasis on the size of the package
Since I'm not gay, that's a comforting thought. And I realize that can be interpreted both ways, which I like.:D

Careful. Or you'll get me asking you if there's any actresses you find sexy.

BTW matagi, how do you pronounce your handle? Is it ma-TAR-gee? Or MATT-a-GUY? Or ma-TADG-ee?
Errm, no, I can't say there are any actresses I find sexy - although I'm happy to admit I find Cameron Diaz quite repulsive.

And matt-a-ghee would be closest - hard "g"

[. Good for your team and the win. Unfortunately for me, Tenn pulled it out over KY and my Dogs wont play for the SEC Championship.....or a national championship for that matter...freakin' Vols......

Imagine my discontent with the whole situation. :D I would like to see Georgia play one of the top seeded team.
I believe the SEC teams always knock each other off and out of national contention.
We need play-offs!
I am with you there. I would like to see teams outside of the SEC play the schedule those within have to. I may hate all the other teams, but they do play the best football in the country.

Welcome back TFF. Assume you are referring to the UNC basketball team.

And I assume that you thought those Duke lacrosse players shoulda went down as well.
No, the ugly women at Duke do all of the going down needed anywhere. Actually Nifong deserves to go to prison for what he did.

They thought they had a pretty woman at Duke once, turns out it was a tranny.

And YES, UNC Basketball (I have heard they play football there too, but it is kind of hard to tell) was a choice I made around the age of 3. I grew up in NC, so you had to choose, and I chose correctly. Funny thing is that I chose to go to Appalachian State instead of UNC for a degree. I even tried to hate them for a time, but you just cannot change something like that. I am Tar Heel born and I'm Tar Heel bread, and when I die I'll be Tar Heel dead.

No, the ugly women at Duke do all of the going down needed anywhere. Actually Nifong deserves to go to prison for what he did.

They thought they had a pretty woman at Duke once, turns out it was a tranny.

And YES, UNC Basketball (I have heard they play football there too, but it is kind of hard to tell) was a choice I made around the age of 3. I grew up in NC, so you had to choose, and I chose correctly. Funny thing is that I chose to go to Appalachian State instead of UNC for a degree. I even tried to hate them for a time, but you just cannot change something like that. I am Tar Heel born and I'm Tar Heel bread, and when I die I'll be Tar Heel dead.
Oops, bred not bread

I am with you there. I would like to see teams outside of the SEC play the schedule those within have to. I may hate all the other teams, but they do play the best football in the country.
And my link to Georgia is that I lived in Athens (greatest little town in the world IMHO) for a few years following my graduation from App. Only took one class there, but saw more great bands than you can imagine.

Errm, no, I can't say there are any actresses I find sexy - although I'm happy to admit I find Cameron Diaz quite repulsive.

And matt-a-ghee would be closest - hard "g"
What are you doing up at 5:00am, Miss Matt-a-ghee?

Oops, bred not breadI was just about to nail you on that with a question about Tar Heel bread.

I usually just use the "edit" button to clean up my spelling/typos/crap syntax. It leaves less tracks.

They thought they had a pretty woman at Duke once, turns out it was a tranny.

And YES, UNC Basketball...How do you get a UNC grad off your front porch?

...pay him/her for the pizza.

UNC and a Duke alumni... who was bigger in the third grade?

UNC alumni... he was 18 at the time.

How do you get a UNC grad off your front porch?

...pay him/her for the pizza.

UNC and a Duke alumni... who was bigger in the third grade?

UNC alumni... he was 18 at the time.

How do you separate the men from the boys at UNC?

A. With a cro-bar

How do you fit four UNC guys on a bar stool?

A. Turn it upside down.

How do you get a UNC grad off your front porch?

...pay him/her for the pizza.

UNC and a Duke alumni... who was bigger in the third grade?

UNC alumni... he was 18 at the time.
Richard Nixon went to Duke, top that joke man ;-)

It was graduation day at UNC, and the professors were giving out the degrees. The crowd started chanting Bubba, Bubba, Bubba!
The president of the University asked, "Who's Bubba?"
"Bubba is a guy who's been at the University for twenty years, and hasn't graduated.
The professor called Bubba up and told him that if he can answer one question, he would graduate. He asked him, "What is 4+4?"
"8," Bubba said.
"Boo!" the crowd roared. "Give him another chance, give him another chance!"