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Ernest L Sevvell, IV
  
Here ya go, fatties! Get those scoop shovels ready!

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Weight Loss Facts:


Low Fat Foods DON'T WORK.

You cannot lose weight using Low Fat Diets. Low fat foods have been
popular for more than 15 years, but yet our society is getting more
overweight as each year passes. This fact alone should tell you that
eating a purely low fat menu is not the answer to losing weight.

Low Calorie Diets DON'T WORK.

You won't lose weight using a Low Calorie Dieting Plan either. In
fact, eating low calories is the worst thing that you can do to your
body, since that will only slow down your body's fat burning engine and
ruin all chances of losing weight (low calorie diets may allow a few
pounds of weight loss for the first few days, but then after that all
weight loss comes to a halt --- known as a dieting plateau). You can
never get slim by starving yourself.

Low Carb Plans DON'T WORK.

You'll probably find it extremely difficult to get slim using a Low Carb
Dieting Plan. Low carb diets have recently become popular over the last
couple years, but the problem with low carb menus is that they are too
strict and TOO HARD TO FOLLOW for average people. Low carb menus tend
to rob your body of too much energy (carbohydrates) and make it nearly
impossible to remain on the program for very long. This is why so many
dieters find it difficult to follow a strict low carbohydrate menu.

What about Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig Dieting Plans?

Weight loss programs such as Weight Watchers (and Jenny Craig) usually
involve slower dieting progress over a longer period of time, since such
programs generally promise only 2-3 pounds of weight loss per week.
Also, programs such as Jenny Craig usually involve buying special meals
and/or dietary supplements during the initial phases of the program.
While some people may like these types of dietary programs, we prefer a
dieting plan which focuses on faster weight loss, such as the
Accelerated Fat Burning Program shown below...



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The Master
  
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Ernest L Sevvell, IV wrote:

> Weight Loss Facts:
> Low Fat Foods DON'T WORK.
> Low Calorie Diets DON'T WORK.
> Low Carb Plans DON'T WORK.
> What about Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig Dieting Plans?

According to the size trolls, those things Do work. The chant "diet diet
diet" can be heard echoing from their side of the wall on a daily basis.
Their love for "low fat" and "less calories" is matched only by their
insistance that programs like weight watchers work so well.

In other words, they are full of sh!t.

> Try our New ACCELERATED Fat Burning Diet right here

Oh? You selling a diet? Hmmm, looks like you are too full of it also...

Don Klipstein
  
In article <Xns99FAE9AA5E769GBBFA@localhost>, Ernest L Sevvell, IV wrote:
>Here ya go, fatties! Get those scoop shovels ready!
>
>http://fatloss4idiots.com/?hop=roeib&tc=123&ov=1342375941&gg=1058220004&
>
>Weight Loss Facts:
>
>Low Fat Foods DON'T WORK.
>
>You cannot lose weight using Low Fat Diets. Low fat foods have been
>popular for more than 15 years, but yet our society is getting more
>overweight as each year passes. This fact alone should tell you that
>eating a purely low fat menu is not the answer to losing weight.

The "low fat fad" rose and fell, and the "low carb fad" rose and mostly
fell, and through all of these times Americans got fatter and fatter.
This is from consuming more calories than before and burning fewer
calories than before.

>Low Calorie Diets DON'T WORK.
>
>You won't lose weight using a Low Calorie Dieting Plan either. In
>fact, eating low calories is the worst thing that you can do to your
>body, since that will only slow down your body's fat burning engine and
>ruin all chances of losing weight (low calorie diets may allow a few
>pounds of weight loss for the first few days, but then after that all
>weight loss comes to a halt --- known as a dieting plateau). You can
>never get slim by starving yourself.

I know 3 people that managed to actually go low calorie and stay on a
low calorie diet. One ate low calorie ever since I first knew him and he
was thin ever since I first knew him. The other two used to eat more
calories and later ate fewer calories, and both used to be overweight
and then lost weight and kept the weight off.

>Low Carb Plans DON'T WORK.
>
>You'll probably find it extremely difficult to get slim using a Low Carb
>Dieting Plan. Low carb diets have recently become popular over the last
>couple years, but the problem with low carb menus is that they are too
>strict and TOO HARD TO FOLLOW for average people. Low carb menus tend
>to rob your body of too much energy (carbohydrates) and make it nearly
>impossible to remain on the program for very long. This is why so many
>dieters find it difficult to follow a strict low carbohydrate menu.

I see low carbers failing by either eating high calorie intake or
falling off their diets - mostly giving up after not losing weight due to
maintaining a caloric intake level that keeps the weight on.

>What about Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig Dieting Plans?
>
>Weight loss programs such as Weight Watchers (and Jenny Craig) usually
>involve slower dieting progress over a longer period of time, since such
>programs generally promise only 2-3 pounds of weight loss per week.

That's about the most that most people can lose per week on any
reasonable weight loss diet. If one eats no calories at all and has a
typical American low-exercise lifestyle, the most that person can do in
terms of weight loss in body fat is about 4 pounds per week!

Body fat is about 3,500 calories per pound, and someone trying to lose
weight without exercising has low prospects of burning much more than
2,000 calories per day. Walking or running 5 miles a day increases that
to about 2,500 calories per day.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Jackie Patti
  
Don Klipstein wrote:

> That's about the most that most people can lose per week on any
> reasonable weight loss diet. If one eats no calories at all and has a
> typical American low-exercise lifestyle, the most that person can do in
> terms of weight loss in body fat is about 4 pounds per week!

Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case, you
lose a lot of weight after death though.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

Cubit
  
"Jackie Patti" <jpatti@ccil.org> wrote in message
news:4754da61$0$2746$470ef3ce@news.pa.net...
> Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>> That's about the most that most people can lose per week on any
>> reasonable weight loss diet. If one eats no calories at all and has a
>> typical American low-exercise lifestyle, the most that person can do in
>> terms of weight loss in body fat is about 4 pounds per week!
>
> Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case, you
> lose a lot of weight after death though.
>
> --
> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

I suppose it "can" happen, but I would bet that it is rare.

Charmander
  
>> Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case, you
>> lose a lot of weight after death though.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
>
> I suppose it "can" happen, but I would bet that it is rare.

Everyone loses weight after death. It's called decomposing.

The Master
  
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, dooberheim wrote:

> Diets work fine. It's the going off the diet that causes the weight
> to come back.

Exactly... The moment you stop counting calories, and try to "live", the
weight starts to come back. You have to stay on the "diet" for the rest
of your life. There is no relaxation, it's constant. That's not LIFE,
that's SURVIVAL.

> Diet and exercise - HARD exercise - does work. It's about the only
> thing that does short of WLS.

Same thing. You have to keep working out... It requires a full and total
lifestyle change, that is totally foreign to me, and I am totally
uninterested in doing.

Cheri
  
The Master wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, dooberheim wrote:
>
>> Diets work fine. It's the going off the diet that causes the
weight
>> to come back.
>
>Exactly... The moment you stop counting calories, and try to "live",
the
>weight starts to come back. You have to stay on the "diet" for the
rest
>of your life. There is no relaxation, it's constant. That's not
LIFE,
>that's SURVIVAL.

Fortunately a LC lifestyle makes that a lot easier to do IMO.

Cheri

Ernest L Sevvell, IV
  
On 05 Dec 2007, The Master <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
posted some news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0712042015240.23779@sdf.lonestar.org:

> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, dooberheim wrote:
>
>> Diets work fine. It's the going off the diet that causes the weight
>> to come back.
>
> Exactly... The moment you stop counting calories, and try to "live",
> the weight starts to come back. You have to stay on the "diet" for
> the rest of your life. There is no relaxation, it's constant. That's
> not LIFE, that's SURVIVAL.
>
>> Diet and exercise - HARD exercise - does work. It's about the only
>> thing that does short of WLS.
>
> Same thing. You have to keep working out... It requires a full and
> total lifestyle change, that is totally foreign to me, and I am
> totally uninterested in doing.

If you wish to live longer with fewer health issues it is the only choice
you have.

The Master
  
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Ernest L Sevvell, IV wrote:

>>> Diet and exercise - HARD exercise - does work. It's about the only
>>> thing that does short of WLS.
>>
>> Same thing. You have to keep working out... It requires a full and
>> total lifestyle change, that is totally foreign to me, and I am
>> totally uninterested in doing.
>
> If you wish to live longer with fewer health issues it is the only choice
> you have.

And there you hit the nail on the head. You see, I post out of the
s.s.f-a group. I am not reading from one of the diet forums.

I do not want to lose weight, the size nazis want me to lose weight.

My point, however, is that the size nazis spew the same garbage about how
"easy" it is to lose weight. Keeping the weight off requires a total
life style change, forever... I don't care about losing weight, let alone
altering my way of life, just to satisfy some internet @$$holes that think
size discrimination is a good idea.

em
  
"Charmander" <tarrah@personals-scripts.com> wrote in message
news:eyB5j.9244$k27.6521@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>
>
>>> Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case, you
>>> lose a lot of weight after death though.
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
>>
>> I suppose it "can" happen, but I would bet that it is rare.
>
> Everyone loses weight after death. It's called decomposing.

What about Betovhen?

Charmander
  
--
What's popular isn't always right. What's right isn't always popular.
"em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:vyf6j.117$yV5.15@newsfe15.phx...
>
> "Charmander" <tarrah@personals-scripts.com> wrote in message
> news:eyB5j.9244$k27.6521@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>
>>>> Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case,
>>>> you lose a lot of weight after death though.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
>>>
>>> I suppose it "can" happen, but I would bet that it is rare.
>>
>> Everyone loses weight after death. It's called decomposing.
>
> What about Betovhen?
I guess Beethoven and Tupac might be the exceptions. :P

Charmander
  
--
What's popular isn't always right. What's right isn't always popular.
"Charmander" <tarrah@personals-scripts.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> --
> What's popular isn't always right. What's right isn't always popular.
> "em" <i@dun.no> wrote in message news:vyf6j.117$yV5.15@newsfe15.phx...
>>
>> "Charmander" <tarrah@personals-scripts.com> wrote in message
>> news:eyB5j.9244$k27.6521@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Actually, one can die of starvation while still obese; in that case,
>>>>> you lose a lot of weight after death though.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
>>>>
>>>> I suppose it "can" happen, but I would bet that it is rare.
>>>
>>> Everyone loses weight after death. It's called decomposing.
>>
>> What about Betovhen?
> I guess Beethoven and Tupac Shakur might be the exceptions. :P
>

Lady Veteran
  
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:13:46 -0800 (PST), Hollywood
<maxlharris@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 6, 8:25 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
>wrote:
>
>> I do not want to lose weight, the size nazis want me to lose weight.
>
>I would guess that the size nazis are happy to allow you to be fat and
>pass early.
>I think it would be a shame if you were to pass 10 or 20 years early,
>but you're
>gonna do what you're gonna do, right?

There is existing and then there is living. His decision has nothing
to do with you. Don't give me any stupidity about raised health
premiums or more carts at the supermarket. Surely we can get down to
the real reason you are sticking your nose in his business.

Admit it-you do it becuase you can keep your distance and try to make
others miserable-that is why you and every idiot in Usenet has had
their nose swatted by a rolled up newspaper at least once.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
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"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

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