Re: The 20 worst foods in America

[The Master]

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Louise wrote:

> 20: Worst fast-food chicken meal
> Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips from McDonald's (5 pieces) with
> creamy ranch sauce

And here I thought they were healthy...

> 18: Worst supermarket meal
> Pepperidge Farm Roasted Chicken Pot Pie (whole pie)

Looks like Chicken is bad for me... Good thing there is beef...

> 17: Worst 'healthy' burger
> Ruby Tuesday Bella Turkey Burger

See? BEEF!

> 16: Worst Mexican entree
> Chipotle Mexican Grill Chicken Burrito

Chipotle only puts on it what you want... Want a healthy burrito? Don't
put all the unhealthy stuff on it. Personally, I want the beans, rice,
sour cream, cheese, beef, etc etc etc... I'm just saying don't b!tch
about it when it's in your power to limit it...

> Macaroni Grill Double Macaroni 'n' Cheese
> Your Best Option: The 390-calorie Grilled Chicken and Broccoli.

Like getting your kid to eat that will work...

> 14: Worst sandwich
> Quiznos Classic Italian (large)

And they have the balls to say Subway is bad for you...

> 13: Worst salad
> On the Border Grande Taco Salad with Taco Beef

That's not really a "salad" though, is it?

> 12: Worst burger
> Carl's Jr. Double Six Dollar Burger

So, the double western baccon cheeseburger is just fine then...
MMmmmmm...

> 7: Worst chicken entree
> Chili's Honey Chipotle Crispers with Chipotle Sauce

See? More chicken! Chicken is evil!

[Don Klipstein]

In <Pine.NEB.4.64.0712031843260.15625@sdf.lonestar.org>, The Master wrote:
>On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Louise wrote:
>
>> 20: Worst fast-food chicken meal
>> Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips from McDonald's (5 pieces) with
>> creamy ranch sauce
>
>And here I thought they were healthy...

I don't know whether or not these are breaded and fried - which gives a
1-1/2 whammy of extra calories, the breading and more still the frying
oil in the breading.

That ranch sauce is probably rich in vegetable oil, which like fats in
general have 9 calories per gram.

>> 18: Worst supermarket meal
>> Pepperidge Farm Roasted Chicken Pot Pie (whole pie)
>
>Looks like Chicken is bad for me... Good thing there is beef...

Chicken and same-leanness beef are similar in calorie content and fat
content. One problem with pot pies is the pie crust. Most pie crusts and
many other pastries have significant amounts of either lard or partially
hydrogenated vegetable shortening (which typically has plenty of trans
fat).

>> 17: Worst 'healthy' burger Ruby Tuesday Bella Turkey Burger
>
>See? BEEF!

I would think the "worst burger" gets to have beef and no poultry.

>> 12: Worst burger
>> Carl's Jr. Double Six Dollar Burger

It has beef rather than poultry!

http://www.carlsjr.com/content_svn/downloads/ingredients.pdf

page 5

Whoa - extra especially bad for a bad burger - the patty has partially
hydrogenated vegetable oil! Maybe not much worse since it has less of
this than it has salt, though this burger does have more than a day's
recommended allowance of sodium! The roughly 2.7 grams of sodium in
the burger as a whole means about 6.5 grams of salt, and not all of this
is added salt in the patty, and the oil added to the patty is less still
in quantity, but it caught my attention!

>So, the double western baccon cheeseburger is just fine then...

970 calories - sounds to me to be a smaller burger than the "Double Six
Dollar Burger", and by calorie count in comparison to the calorie champion
sounds to me like a move out of the fire and into the frying pan.

The beef patty here this time is nothing but beef.

>> 7: Worst chicken entree
>> Chili's Honey Chipotle Crispers with Chipotle Sauce
>
>See? More chicken! Chicken is evil!

Sounds to me like something that is breaded and fried in oil and also
having a fat-rich sauce.

Hmmm... I wonder if I could sustain a bonfire by feeding it modern
American high-calorie-density fast food once it gets rolling? I suspect
that could be done! I have seen campfires sustained with green logs and
damp logs, so I think the same could be done with bacon cheeseburgers,
chicken nuggets/tenders, maybe even french fries!

I know that most nuts burn easily, not surprising since most have more
calories per gram than sugar has. Sugar also burns if added to a campfire
or a bonfire, and flour burns and especially thick concentrations of grain
dust in air can if ignited flash up quickly enough to blow up grain
elevators. And I know that cars have been made that can run on vegetable
oil and that vegetable oil can be used in oil lamps and that candles can
be made of more-solid fats. But I think it would make some impact to show
a bonfire being fueled with french fries, bacon cheeseburgers or chicken
nuggets!

This would mainly be good as a demonstration, since cost per unit heat
of combustion is less for materials that have experienced more use or
consideration for use as fuels than for burgers, fries, and chicken
nuggets.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)