All are one, in the eys of the car

[Fraggle]

I was ambling home from work today and was passed by a guy going pretty fast. Further on down the
road I could see him gesticulate at a car but I did not see the incident.

Further along i pull alongside a row of traffic to turn right at a roundabout, guy on the outside
lane leans out his window and says "your mate there, he is insane". I was like ?!? what !?! then
twigged he must mean the other cyclist. so I say 'i don't know him' and carried on my merry way.

Got me thinking though, the arm waving and the guy talking to me were separated by maybe 5 minutes I
was not in view of whatever incident happened, but still they guy in the car says "your mate" and
expected some response from me.

Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that all
cyclists are really one person (or something)

Fragg

[M Series]

Fraggle <Fraggle_rock_1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was ambling home from work today and was passed by a guy going pretty fast. Further on down the
> road I could see him gesticulate at a car but I did not see the incident.
>
> Further along i pull alongside a row of traffic to turn right at a roundabout, guy on the outside
> lane leans out his window and says "your mate there, he is insane". I was like ?!? what !?! then
> twigged he must mean the other cyclist. so I say 'i don't know him' and carried on my merry way.
>
> Got me thinking though, the arm waving and the guy talking to me were separated by maybe 5 minutes
> I was not in view of whatever incident happened, but still they guy in the car says "your mate"
> and expected some response from me.
>
> Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
> all cyclists are really one person (or something)
>
> Fragg

Thats because we are all tarred with the same brush.

[Tony Raven]

Fraggle wrote:
>
> Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
> all cyclists are really one person (or something)
>

Seems to be reciprocal to me. Most of the posts here view motorists as a single group with uniformly
homicidal behaviour towards cyclists.

Tony

--
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain

[Chris French]

In message <bjt77d$ppc$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, M Series <spamyou@127.0.0.1> writes
>Fraggle <Fraggle_rock_1@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>

>> Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
>> all cyclists are really one person (or something)

>Thats because we are all tarred with the same brush.
>
Like 'motorists' , volvo drivers, etc. are here by some posters??
--
Chris French, Leeds

[Pyromancer]

Once upon a time, Fraggle <Fraggle_rock_1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
>all cyclists are really one person (or something)

We are Cyclist of Borg. Petroleum is irrelevant. And will soon have all been incinerated.

:-)

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[Gary Sinnott]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:01:10 +0100, Pyromancer <pyromancer@beeching.stormshadow.com> wrote:

>We are Cyclist of Borg. Petroleum is irrelevant. And will soon have all been incinerated.

That's gotta be worth at least 8 1/2 :)

Gary

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[Howard]

"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
news:<bjtbbd$n1eap$1@ID-178940.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Fraggle wrote:
> >
> > Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
> > all cyclists are really one person (or something)
> >
>
> Seems to be reciprocal to me. Most of the posts here view motorists as a single group with
> uniformly homicidal behaviour towards cyclists.
>
> Tony

In reality, extensive research (Such as the Scottish Office report 'Drivers and cyclists as equal
road users') shows that

1) Drivers DO group all cyclist's together.

2) The beheviour of a minority of irresponsible cyclists strongly biases the attitudes of drivers to
all cyclists. In fact the more responsible and law abiding you are the less likely you are to
register on the consciousness of the average driver. (Similarly, who ever takes notice of well
behaved football fans...).

3) Cyclists generally DO attribute the most blatently irresponsible and inconsiderate behaviour of
car drivers to a minority.

However, as to whether or not the majority of drivers have homicidal tendancies towards cyclists,
whilst only a minority are deliberately aggressive, most drivers do frequently take small liberties
with the safety of others. For example, the majority of drivers habitually speed, almost 80% of
drivers will force their way past a cyclist just before or at a pinch point and so on...

[Fred Nerk]

"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
news:bjtbbd$n1eap$1@ID-178940.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Fraggle wrote:
> >
> > Indicative of the way one cyclists behavior reflects on others, and the view of most people that
> > all cyclists are really one person (or something)
> >
>
> Seems to be reciprocal to me. Most of the posts here view motorists as a single group with
> uniformly homicidal behaviour towards cyclists.

Defensive riding

> Tony
>
> --
> "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain

[Tony W]

"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
news:bjtbbd$n1eap$1@ID-178940.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> Seems to be reciprocal to me. Most of the posts here view motorists as a single group with
> uniformly homicidal behaviour towards cyclists.

Delete 'towards cyclists' and this is almost exactly what my driving instructor told me in 1970
(ish). Assuming every other road user is a homicidal idiot out to get me may be paranoid but it
encourages one to keep your wits about you while riding/driving.

[Tony Raven]

Tony W wrote:

>
> Delete 'towards cyclists' and this is almost exactly what my driving instructor told me in 1970
> (ish). Assuming every other road user is a homicidal idiot out to get me may be paranoid but it
> encourages one to keep your wits about you while riding/driving.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you ;-)

Tony

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"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain