What of Tyler ?

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Tinkoff Credit Systems has announced its line-up for the upcoming season. The Italian team and its Russian sponsor will once again have 19 riders for its second year as a Professional Continental team, but the big names with which it started last season have all disappeared. Danilo Hondo is serving his doping-related suspension, while Tyler Hamilton and Jörg Jaksche were dismissed during the season after being linked to Operación Puerto's Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes.
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So you're more in the David Millar [who recently returned to the Pro Tour after a two-year drug ban] boat?

Yeah, the exact same situation. Except that he did something wrong, and I did not.

http://outside.away.com/outside/culture/200703/tyler-hamilton-interview-outtakes.html

A man with his abilities to construction fiction - should head west to Hollywood for a job.
Knowing him, he'd have no compunction breaking the pickets

I do wonder if he actually believes his own lies? Delusional ?

How nuts is Tyler?

I do wonder if he actually believes his own lies? Delusional ?

How nuts is Tyler?He's gone so far down the road of deception that he can't possibly turn back now, especially if there may be legal repercussions involving the money he solicited for his defense fund.

Like Armstrong, he has gotten himself in so deep that even if he really wanted to come clean - which I don't think he does, mind - for all practical purposes he has no choice but to soldier on.

What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.

What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.
...and don't forget Alien George in all of that........... he was riding up mountains whilst adjusting his sunglasses and winning the stage and this was after leading the entire peleton for the last 19 days straight..........

What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.And Heras is still in denial mode as well.

What was it about Postal Disco that brought so many douchebags together? They had Hamilton, Landis, and Armstrong, all cut from the same cloth.
I think this pretty much explains it. You either played the game (i.e. were a douchebag) or there was no use for you. Frankie and Vaughter's edited IM exchange:



Cyclevaughters: frankie - hey - thanks for talking the other day


Cyclevaughters: anyhow, i never can quite figure out why i don't just
play along with the lance crowd - i mean shit it would make my life
easier, eh? it's not like i never played with hotsauce, eh?


FDREU: I know, but in the end i don't think it comes back to bite you


FDREU: I play along, my wife does not, and Lance hates us both


FDREU: it's a no win situation, you know how he is. Once you leave the
team or do soemthing wrong you forever banned


Cyclevaughters: i suppose - you know he tried to hire me back in 2001...
he was nice to me... i just couldn't deal with that whole world


FDREU: I did not know that


FDREU: look at why everyone leaves, it's way to controlling


Cyclevaughters: once I went to CA and saw that not all the teams got 25
injections every day


Cyclevaughters: hell, CA was ZERO


FDREU: you mean all the riders


Cyclevaughters: Credit Agricole


FDREU: it's crazy
Cyclevaughters: So, I realized lance was full of shit when he'd say
everyone was doing it

FDREU: After 1999, you know many things changed. lance did not



FDREU: I believe that's part of whey kevin left, he was tired of the stuff


Cyclevaughters: yeah, i could explain the whole way lance dupes everyone


FDREU: what abut GH climbing the mountains better than azevedo and the
entire group


Cyclevaughters: from how floyd described it, i know exactly the methos


FDREU: explain that, classics to climber


FDREU: when did you talk with floyd


Cyclevaughters: i don't know - i want to trust George


Cyclevaughters: but the thing is on that team, you think it's normal


Cyclevaughters: or at least i did


FDREU: i guess. anything with blodd is not normal


Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's very complex how the avoid all the controls
now, but it's not any new drug or anything, just the resources and
planning to pull of a well devised plan


Cyclevaughters: it's why they all got dropped on stage 9 - no refill yet
- then on the rest day - boom 800ml of packed cells


FDREU: they have it mastered. good point


Cyclevaughters: they draw the blood right after the dauphine


FDREU: how do they sneak it in, or keep it until needed


FDREU: i'm sure it's not with the truck in the frig


Cyclevaughters: motorcycle - refridgerated panniers


Cyclevaughters: on the rest day


Cyclevaughters: floyd has a photo of the thing


FDREU: crazy! it' just keep going to new levels


Cyclevaughters: yeah, it's complicated, but with enough money you can do it


FDREU: they have enough money. Floyd was so pissed at them this entire tour


Cyclevaughters: anyhow - i just feel sorry for floyd and some of the
other guys


Cyclevaughters: why would lance keep doing the shit when he clearly
has nothing to prove - it's weird


FDREU: I know. me to. they all get ripped into for no reason


FDREU: he's done now, thank god. but they will prove next year for
Johan's sake that they are the greatest


Cyclevaughters: and then lance says " this guy and that guys are pussies"


FDREU: they won't stop
FDREU: I agree