Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?

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donquijote1954 wrote:
> No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
> on oil,

Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

"Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
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> donquijote1954 wrote:
>> No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
>> on oil,
>
> Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
can still drive their cars....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cncorn113.xml

and so on....

tik

In article <fltk3v$f2n$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, athome@blueyonder.co.uk
says...
>
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:L_SdnfDtTc063B_anZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com...
> > donquijote1954 wrote:
> >> No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
> >> on oil,
> >
> > Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.
>
> Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
> rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
> can still drive their cars....

Using corn as the source for ethanol is just an interim step to much
more economical sources, mainly high-cellulose items such as switch
grass, sawdust, etc.


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The immortal Khan wrote:
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>
>>donquijote1954 wrote:
>>
>>>No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
>>>on oil,
>>
>>Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.
>
>
> Kind of a shame that corn, wheat and other bio-ethanol sources are low, with
> rapidly escalating prices isn't it...food prices skyrocketting so that folk
> can still drive their cars....
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6481029.stm
> http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4328.2580.0.0
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/13/cncorn113.xml
>
> and so on....

I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
any sort of technology.

Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.

Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
CO2.

I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
destruction!

Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor?

They murder large numbers of other vehicle operators on
the road out of sheer joy of murder. We need even bigger
SUVs so they can take out buses and trains and even taxiing
airliners to eliminate large swaths of humanity in a single
"accident". By converting all our food grains to fuel to
run them, SUVs will destroy more of humanity from starvation
and disease!

Humans, BAD!
SUV, friend of Mother Earth!


SMH

"Stephen Harding" <smharding16@msn.com> wrote in message
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> The immortal Khan wrote:
>> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>>>donquijote1954 wrote:

>
> I don't think it's possible to please some Green types with
> any sort of technology.
>
> Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
> their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.
>
> Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
> CO2.

But the atmosphere can only hold so much water vapor before it falls out of
the sky as potential fuel; rain. Water vapor will probably not effect
greenhouse problems very much.

So donquijote1954 is just showing off how little he knows about what is
happening in the world.

Red Cloud wrote:

> That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
> culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
> window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
> to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
> big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
> why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye. HHT! SB

"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote in message
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> Red Cloud wrote:
>
> > That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
> > culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
> > window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
> > to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
> > big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
> > why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
> > Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.
>
> Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye. HHT! SB
>
>
If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a bicycle. Too
many accidents per mile.

Jack May wrote:
> "Stephen Harding" <smharding16@msn.com> wrote in message
>
>>Once H2 fueled vehicles come on line in perhaps 10-15 years,
>>their by-product of combustion will be water vapor.
>>
>>Water vapor is much more effective "greenhouse gas" than
>>CO2.
>
> But the atmosphere can only hold so much water vapor before it falls out of
> the sky as potential fuel; rain. Water vapor will probably not effect
> greenhouse problems very much.

I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that
the earth was as hot as it has ever been.

ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of
water vapor in the air (volcanoes? geothermal activity?).
Can't remember what the source of it was. Maybe just
evaporation from oceans.

At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with
water without it raining, or without rain clearing up
the humidity. Check out many of the tropical locations
of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity.

Perhaps H2 powered SUVs will bring on a glacial cooling
period when all that SUV derived water vapor freezes
into snow and ice in Minnesota and Canada, feeding
glaciers and burying our cities!!!

Wow, those SUVs are really something, huh?


SMH

Red Cloud wrote:

> That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
> culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
> window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
> to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
> big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
> why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

Me addicted American killer automobile consumer.

Me American psyche demand NASCAR killer Hummer making
lots noise!


SMH

George Conklin wrote:

> If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a bicycle. Too
> many accidents per mile.

Like how many?

Cite please.


SMH

donquijote1954 wrote:
> Lions for lambs. The lion makes the sheep vote in a certain way, and
> the sheep blindly follow.

Didn't know sheep voted.

What sort of bribes do the sheep get from the lions?
Extra grazing privileges? A higher percentage of
the wool trade? Outlawing of lamb chops?


SMH

George Conklin wrote:
> "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote in message
> news:478279d8$0$8825$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Red Cloud wrote:
>>
>>> That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
>>> culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's
>>> just window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all
>>> desire to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
>>> big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
>>> why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
>>> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.
>>
>> Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye. HHT! SB
>>
>>
> If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a
> bicycle. Too many accidents per mile.

First of all, WHOOSH.

Secondly, I'm well over 20,000 miles now, with zero accidents. When should
I start getting scared?!?

Bill "now mountain biking is a far different story" S.

"Stephen Harding" <smharding16@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Jack May wrote:
>> "Stephen Harding" <smharding16@msn.com> wrote in message
> I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that
> the earth was as hot as it has ever been.
>
> ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of
> water vapor in the air (volcanoes? geothermal activity?).
> Can't remember what the source of it was. Maybe just
> evaporation from oceans.
>
> At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with
> water without it raining, or without rain clearing up
> the humidity. Check out many of the tropical locations
> of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity.

From:

http://www.wxdude.com/humidity.html

Air can only hold 100% relative humidity. For rain the 100% relative
humidity is at the altitude where the rain is coming from, not the ground
where the humidity gage is normally. It takes some time for the 100%
humidity "mist" to form into drops which fall as rain. There are cases
where there can be super cooled water being more than 100%, but that is
rare.

So for all practical purposes vapor is not going to do much to increase
global warming because it will precipitate out as rain when it reaches 100%
humidity at some place in the atmosphere. Since we get rain now, the air is
often saturated at some place with the maximum moisture it can hold.

Red Cloud wrote:
>
> That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
> culture. Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's just
> window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all desire
> to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
> big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
> why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

What, no "White Penis Power"?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people." A. Derleth

Red Cloud <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

Why would you want to kill human being with your bike, RC.
That's horrible!

"David

do you really believe that ther is enough biomass to feed
1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups?
i susspect they get about 6 miles a gallon when they lie about their gas
milage

fwiw
peter

The more economical source is when they start running on bull shit.
Imagine all the crap cows leave behind, not to say what people say in
politics and organized religion.

politicians and lots of religious leaders only reflect the society as does
this usenet--so what do you expect?

fwiw
peter

> I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
> destruction!
>
> Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor?

steve
i hate to say this but i think you are right--sad for our children
i know of no answer and that includes getting human dna off this planet
life i know will go one and steve--that's what keeps me going in a dead
planet

peter

I think the main contribution of the SUV is toward the male ego of the
American psyche. Perhaps like being a gladiator in Roman times.
i agree
you can now see it in 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups here in the bronx
also if you can believe it--stretch humvees

peter

They will shuttle the Religious Right out of this planet when they
finally succeed in destroying it.

its really not them
they jsut refect our society no more no less

peter