Can Vitamin C help cut second-hand smoke damage?

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Vitamin C may cut passive smoking damage

Vitamin C may help prevent the damage caused by second-hand tobacco smoke, offering a way for people
to protect themselves from smokers in their lives, a U.S. study suggests.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s917746.htm

i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
smoking, and just popped vitamin C.

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"Wilson da Silva" <wfdas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7fc2943a.0308060004.61edb209@posting.google.com...
> Thought the following news item might be of interest to the list ...
>
> Vitamin C may cut passive smoking damage
>
> Vitamin C may help prevent the damage caused by second-hand tobacco smoke, offering a way for
> people to protect themselves from smokers in their lives, a U.S. study suggests.
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s917746.htm

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:16:00 -0500, "rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> posted:

>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
>smoking, and just popped vitamin C.

Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted by
wishful thinking.

"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote

> i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
> smoking, and just popped vitamin C.

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Moosh:} <almostnothing@very.little> wrote
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:16:00 -0500, "rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> >i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
> >smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
>
> Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted by
> wishful thinking.
>

Ueta E, Suzuki E, Nanba E, Tadokoro Y, Otsuka Y, Kurata T. Regulation of cigarette smoke-induced
cytochrome P4501A1 gene expression in osteogenic disorder Shionogi rat liver and in lung by large
ascorbic acid dose. Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2001 Nov;65(11):2548-51. PMID: 11791731 [PubMed -
indexed for MEDLINE]

Nardini M, Finkelstein EI, Reddy S, Valacchi G, Traber M, Cross CE, van der Vliet A.
Acrolein-induced cytotoxicity in cultured human bronchial epithelial cells. Modulation by
alpha-tocopherol and ascorbic acid. Toxicology. 2002 Jan 25;170(3):173-85. PMID: 11788155 [PubMed -
indexed for MEDLINE]

Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay D, Chatterjee IB. Cigarette smoke-induced protein oxidation
and proteolysis is exclusively caused by its tar phase: prevention by vitamin C. Toxicol Lett. 2001
Aug 6;123(1):21-32. PMID: 11514102 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Schneider M, Diemer K, Engelhart K, Zankl H, Trommer WE, Biesalski HK. Protective effects of
vitamins C and E on the number of micronuclei in lymphocytes in smokers and their role in ascorbate
free radical formation in plasma. Free Radic Res. 2001 Mar;34(3):209-19. PMID: 11264897 [PubMed -
indexed for MEDLINE]

Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay DJ, Chatterjee IB. Vitamin C prevents cigarette
smoke-induced oxidative damage in vivo. Free Radic Biol Med. 2000 Jul 15;29(2):115-24. PMID:
10980400 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Jacob RA. Passive smoking induces oxidant damage preventable by vitamin C. Nutr Rev. 2000
Aug;58(8):239-41. Review. PMID: 10946562 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gamble J, Grewal PS, Gartside IB. Vitamin C modifies the cardiovascular and microvascular responses
to cigarette smoke inhalation in man. Clin Sci (Lond). 2000 Apr;98(4):455-60. PMID: 10731481 [PubMed
- indexed for MEDLINE]

Valkonen MM, Kuusi T. Vitamin C prevents the acute atherogenic effects of passive smoking. Free
Radic Biol Med. 2000 Feb 1;28(3):428-36. PMID: 10699755 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

. . .

and many more.

Moosh:} wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:16:00 -0500, "rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> posted:
>
>
>>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
>>smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
>
>
> Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted by
> wishful thinking.
>
>

Popping Vit C makes you eliminate nicotine faster, and therefore smoke more to maintain addiction
levels. So it's a catch-22.

> > >i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the
smoker................
> > >so i kept on smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
> >
> > Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted
> > by wishful thinking.
> >
>
> Ueta E, Suzuki E, Nanba E, Tadokoro Y, Otsuka Y, Kurata T. Regulation of cigarette smoke-induced
> cytochrome P4501A1 gene expression
in
> osteogenic disorder Shionogi rat liver and in lung by large ascorbic acid
dose.
> Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2001 Nov;65(11):2548-51. PMID: 11791731 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Nardini M, Finkelstein EI, Reddy S, Valacchi G, Traber M, Cross CE, van
der
> Vliet A. Acrolein-induced cytotoxicity in cultured human bronchial epithelial
cells.
> Modulation by alpha-tocopherol and ascorbic acid. Toxicology. 2002 Jan 25;170(3):173-85. PMID:
> 11788155 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay D, Chatterjee IB. Cigarette smoke-induced protein
> oxidation and proteolysis is exclusively
caused
> by its tar phase: prevention by vitamin C. Toxicol Lett. 2001 Aug 6;123(1):21-32. PMID: 11514102
> [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Schneider M, Diemer K, Engelhart K, Zankl H, Trommer WE, Biesalski HK.
> Protective effects of vitamins C and E on the number of micronuclei in
> lymphocytes in smokers and their role in ascorbate free radical formation
in
> plasma. Free Radic Res. 2001 Mar;34(3):209-19. PMID: 11264897 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay DJ, Chatterjee IB. Vitamin C prevents cigarette
> smoke-induced oxidative damage in vivo. Free Radic Biol Med. 2000 Jul 15;29(2):115-24. PMID:
> 10980400 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Jacob RA. Passive smoking induces oxidant damage preventable by vitamin C. Nutr Rev. 2000
> Aug;58(8):239-41. Review. PMID: 10946562 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> Gamble J, Grewal PS, Gartside IB. Vitamin C modifies the cardiovascular and microvascular
> responses to
cigarette
> smoke inhalation in man. Clin Sci (Lond). 2000 Apr;98(4):455-60. PMID: 10731481 [PubMed - indexed
> for MEDLINE]
>
> Valkonen MM, Kuusi T. Vitamin C prevents the acute atherogenic effects of passive smoking. Free
> Radic Biol Med. 2000 Feb 1;28(3):428-36. PMID: 10699755 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

WHAT?!? NO URLs?!? Hahahahahahahaha! Sorry, my sides still hurt. Hey!, Alex! -- look!, no URLs!
Hahahahahahahaha!

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:27:38 GMT, "giselle" <giselle@atlantic.not> posted:

>Moosh:} <almostnothing@very.little> wrote
>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:16:00 -0500, "rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> posted:
>>
>> >i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
>> >smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
>>
>> Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted by
>> wishful thinking.
>>
>
> Ueta E, Suzuki E, Nanba E, Tadokoro Y, Otsuka Y, Kurata T. Regulation of cigarette smoke-induced
> cytochrome P4501A1 gene expression in osteogenic disorder Shionogi rat liver and in lung by large
> ascorbic acid dose. Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2001 Nov;65(11):2548-51. PMID: 11791731 [PubMed -
> indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Nardini M, Finkelstein EI, Reddy S, Valacchi G, Traber M, Cross CE, van der Vliet A.
>Acrolein-induced cytotoxicity in cultured human bronchial epithelial cells. Modulation by
>alpha-tocopherol and ascorbic acid. Toxicology. 2002 Jan 25;170(3):173-85. PMID: 11788155 [PubMed -
>indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay D, Chatterjee IB. Cigarette smoke-induced protein oxidation
>and proteolysis is exclusively caused by its tar phase: prevention by vitamin C. Toxicol Lett. 2001
>Aug 6;123(1):21-32. PMID: 11514102 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Schneider M, Diemer K, Engelhart K, Zankl H, Trommer WE, Biesalski HK. Protective effects of
>vitamins C and E on the number of micronuclei in lymphocytes in smokers and their role in ascorbate
>free radical formation in plasma. Free Radic Res. 2001 Mar;34(3):209-19. PMID: 11264897 [PubMed -
>indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Panda K, Chattopadhyay R, Chattopadhyay DJ, Chatterjee IB. Vitamin C prevents cigarette
>smoke-induced oxidative damage in vivo. Free Radic Biol Med. 2000 Jul 15;29(2):115-24. PMID:
>10980400 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Jacob RA. Passive smoking induces oxidant damage preventable by vitamin C. Nutr Rev. 2000
>Aug;58(8):239-41. Review. PMID: 10946562 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Gamble J, Grewal PS, Gartside IB. Vitamin C modifies the cardiovascular and microvascular responses
>to cigarette smoke inhalation in man. Clin Sci (Lond). 2000 Apr;98(4):455-60. PMID: 10731481
>[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>Valkonen MM, Kuusi T. Vitamin C prevents the acute atherogenic effects of passive smoking. Free
>Radic Biol Med. 2000 Feb 1;28(3):428-36. PMID: 10699755 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>and many more.

And the outcomes of taking vit C supplementation and eventual morbidity?

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:53:31 -0400, Kita <omg8pv4802@sneakemail.com> posted:

>Moosh:} wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:16:00 -0500, "rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> posted:
>>
>>
>>>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the smoker................ so i kept on
>>>smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
>>
>>
>> Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted by
>> wishful thinking.
>>
>>
>
>Popping Vit C makes you eliminate nicotine faster, and therefore smoke more to maintain addiction
>levels. So it's a catch-22.

How interesting, (if it's true). There's always a trap :)

> >>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the
smoker................
> >>so i kept on smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
> >
> >
> > Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted
> > by wishful thinking.
> >
> >
>
> Popping Vit C makes you eliminate nicotine faster, and therefore smoke more to maintain addiction
> levels. So it's a catch-22.

I hadn't heard that before. Can you please cite a source for that information?

> >and many more.

> MooShe comments: And the outcomes of taking vit C supplementation and eventual morbidity?

The only thing that would convince MooShe would be if at her death they took a sample of some still
viable DNA and cloned 20 000 MooShes and compelled 2/3 to smoke with half that group also taking a
large dose of ascorbic acid.

The non-smoking MooShes would be compared to two smoking Mooshe population. The likely result would
be the AA group would fall somewhere between the other two populations in health and lifespans.

"PRSmith" <prsmith@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<rR9Za.153480$XV.8119733@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> > >>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the
> smoker................
> > >>so i kept on smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
> > >
> > >
> > > Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be distorted
> > > by wishful thinking.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Popping Vit C makes you eliminate nicotine faster, and therefore smoke more to maintain
> > addiction levels. So it's a catch-22.
>
> I hadn't heard that before. Can you please cite a source for that information?

Nicotine is eliminated primarily through sweat and urination. Vitamin C acts as a mild diuretic. We
know that the faster nicotine is eliminated, the faster the body requires more of it.

I don't know that one single study has investigated both facts together (they are often referred to,
but I can't say one study combines both, yet), but you can find many articles confirming either one
one individually at Pubmed.

(Normally I'd do all the legwork and research, but since I don't smoke anymore, in this case I'm
just not that interested or affected.)

> > > >>i remember reading about the benefits of vitamin C for the
> > smoker................
> > > >>so i kept on smoking, and just popped vitamin C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wasn't the information just that vit C in smokers was lower? Amazing how this can be
> > > > distorted by wishful thinking.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Popping Vit C makes you eliminate nicotine faster, and therefore smoke more to maintain
> > > addiction levels. So it's a catch-22.
> >
> > I hadn't heard that before. Can you please cite a source for that information?
>
> Nicotine is eliminated primarily through sweat and urination. Vitamin C acts as a mild diuretic.
> We know that the faster nicotine is eliminated, the faster the body requires more of it.
>
> I don't know that one single study has investigated both facts together (they are often referred
> to, but I can't say one study combines both, yet), but you can find many articles confirming
> either one one individually at Pubmed.
>
> (Normally I'd do all the legwork and research, but since I don't smoke anymore, in this case I'm
> just not that interested or affected.)

I see, a simple diuretic like so many other things - coffee and beer being but two examples. Well,
that was interesting.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:27:49 -0700, "William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> posted:

>
>> >and many more.
>
>> MooShe comments: And the outcomes of taking vit C supplementation and eventual morbidity?
>
>The only thing that would convince MooShe would be if at her death they took a sample of some still
>viable DNA and cloned 20 000 MooShes and compelled 2/3 to smoke with half that group also taking a
>large dose of ascorbic acid.
>
>The non-smoking MooShes would be compared to two smoking Mooshe population. The likely result would
>be the AA group would fall somewhere between the other two populations in health and lifespans.

If that's how you would approach the problem.

But I would be happy for a concensus of studies that showed an effect other than a reduction of AA
in the blood of the passive smokers, however, if you are happy to believe it negates passive smoking
damage, go for it. I will avoid passive smoking wherever possible.