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Boyd Speerschne

Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?

1) The T-Mobile race... Horner solos to sweet victory with teammate McCormick taking 2nd.

2) The Vuelta a Espana stage... didn't really skake up the GC much but looked freaking painful and
intense for a *long* time on the telly.

- Boyd S.

Kurgan Gringion

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?

No.

not bad though.

Psycholist

I can't say if it was the best day of racing, ever, but I'll look forward to seeing the broadcast of
the T-Mobile race on OLN when it airs. Sounds like Horner made a really gutsy break -- and after
battling back from a flat-induced deficit. Gutsy.

And that finish in the Vuelta was pretty remarkable. I don't ever recall seeing a bunch sprint for a
mountaintop finish quite like that before. It was pretty cool.

Bob C. "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
>
> 1) The T-Mobile race... Horner solos to sweet victory with teammate
McCormick
> taking 2nd.
>
> 2) The Vuelta a Espana stage... didn't really skake up the GC much but
looked
> freaking painful and intense for a *long* time on the telly.
>
> - Boyd S.

Boyd Speerschne

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93F6D30A1260DbspeerscNOSPAM@65.32.1.6...
>> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
>
> No... not bad though.

Holy ****, you don't consider me a dumbass? I must be the only one on the face of the earth ;)

- Boyd S.

Darren

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?

Surely you jest. Exciting maybe, but best ever? Hell no.

Darren

> 1) The T-Mobile race... Horner solos to sweet victory with teammate
McCormick
> taking 2nd.
>
> 2) The Vuelta a Espana stage... didn't really skake up the GC much but
looked
> freaking painful and intense for a *long* time on the telly.
>
> - Boyd S.

Kurgan Gringion

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Bm89b.873$065.542125@news1.news.adelphia.net:
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> > "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns93F6D30A1260DbspeerscNOSPAM@65.32.1.6...
> >> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
> >
> > No... not bad though.
>
> Holy ****, you don't consider me a dumbass?

Dumbass -

that was pretty dumb to consider yesterday as the best day of racing ever.

As for the best ever, I'd have to say the last day of the 1989 TdF, even if it was a goddamm time
trial. Too melodramatic and cheesy even for a Hollywood script.

Mrbob

In article <96m9b.1074$065.754298@news1.news.adelphia.net>, "Kurgan Gringioni"
<kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > news:Bm89b.873$065.542125@news1.news.adelphia.net:
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> > > "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns93F6D30A1260DbspeerscNOSPAM@65.32.1.6...
> > >> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
> > >
> > > No... not bad though.
> >
> > Holy ****, you don't consider me a dumbass?
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> that was pretty dumb to consider yesterday as the best day of racing ever.
>
>
>
>
> As for the best ever, I'd have to say the last day of the 1989 TdF, even if it was a goddamm time
> trial. Too melodramatic and cheesy even for a Hollywood script.

Dumbass - apparently you haven't seen American Flyers.

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Bruce Johnston

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> > > "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns93F6D30A1260DbspeerscNOSPAM@65.32.1.6...
> > >> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
> > >
> > > No... not bad though.
> >
> > Holy ****, you don't consider me a dumbass?
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> that was pretty dumb to consider yesterday as the best day of racing ever.
>
>
>
>
> As for the best ever, I'd have to say the last day of the 1989 TdF, even
if
> it was a goddamm time trial. Too melodramatic and cheesy even for a
Hollywood
> script.

Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down under. Not nearly as exciting as the
drama from last day of 89 TDF in such a short span of time.

B-

Kurgan Gringion

"MrBob" <bobmaher@dontspamonme.nwuDOTTedu.dontspamonme> wrote in message
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> In article <96m9b.1074$065.754298@news1.news.adelphia.net>, "Kurgan Gringioni"
> <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dumbass -
> >
> > that was pretty dumb to consider yesterday as the best day of racing
ever.
> >
> >
> > As for the best ever, I'd have to say the last day of the 1989 TdF, even
if
> > it was a goddamm time trial. Too melodramatic and cheesy even for a
Hollywood
> > script.
>
> Dumbass - apparently you haven't seen American Flyers.

Dumbass -

I've heard it was horrible.

Kurgan Gringion

"Bruce Johnston" <riposa@sierratel.com> wrote in message news:3f662984@news.sti.net...

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> Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down under.

Dumbass -

That race was one of the most negative and boring, ever.

Boyd Speerschne

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> "Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93F6D30A1260DbspeerscNOSPAM@65.32.1.6...
>> Could today possibly be the best day of racing ever?
>
> Surely you jest. Exciting maybe, but best ever? Hell no.
>
> Darren

Ok then, you name me some other day when 2 fields of this quality raced on two races courses of
this quality.

Good luck.

- Boyd S. knows when to put up or shut up

Carl Sundquist

"Boyd Speerschneider" <bspeerscNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Ok then, you name me some other day when 2 fields of this quality raced on two races courses of
> this quality.
>
> Good luck.
>
> - Boyd S. knows when to put up or shut up
>

I'll bet there was something similar in 1995 when numerous Euros were training in Colorado Springs
and they held a stage race in the snow in September. There was probably a equal or greater quality
race somewhere in Europe at the same time.

Carl Just thinking off the top of my head

Stewart Fleming

Boyd Speerschneider wrote:

> Ok then, you name me some other day when 2 fields of this quality raced on two races courses of
> this quality.

Any day there was a major tour on and Stephen Roche went for a training ride.

Bruce Johnston

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> >
> > Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down under.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> That race was one of the most negative and boring, ever.

By your account? That is your very narrow opinion. Besides, there were 4 events, don't forget the
silver in the points race. I found the the whole story that played out quite interesting.

B-

Kurgan Gringion

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> >
> > >
> > > Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down under.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dumbass -
> >
> > That race was one of the most negative and boring, ever.
>
> By your account? That is your very narrow opinion.

Dumbass -

Any race that doesn't have a break attempt get more than 10 seconds up the road is damn boring. I am
not alone in that judgement.

Do you understand the term 'negative racing'? That race was the epitome of
it.

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't hold that sort of crap in high regard. Everyone is entitled to
their opinion.

Bruce Johnston

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> > >
> > > >
> > > > Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down
under.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dumbass -
> > >
> > > That race was one of the most negative and boring, ever.
> >
> > By your account? That is your very narrow opinion.
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Any race that doesn't have a break attempt get more than 10 seconds up the road is damn boring. I
> am not alone in that judgement.

<True
>
> Do you understand the term 'negative racing'?

<Yes

That race was the epitome of
> it.
>
> That doesn't mean that you shouldn't hold that sort of crap in high
regard.
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

You are limiting it to one event. The whole story is quite interesting. She not only came back from
deaths door to compete, but she won 3 golds, more then any man or women in the history of cycling.
She set a world record on the track, would of won the points race, if not for the Italian girl was
so far out in front, but LZ was clear in the second position. She literally destroyed the field in
the TT and the Road race wasn't entirely boring. There was rain, crashes and the sprint finish was
close almost right up to the line when the field was blown apart by her final push. Bud Greenspan
showtime documentary was quite good. She become such a hero in the NL that they a did a documentary
there too. You wouldn't hear many of the NL fans saying such things. To the contrary she was one of
the biggest sports stars they had based on her efforts in Sydney, which you call dam boring. I don't
agree. But then again most of RBR considers womens races to be dam boring anyway so I would expect
such comments. Again, akin to those who say that women races are about as exciting as Lawn Bowling.
I just don't see it that way.

Of course who am I to argue with the supreme ruler.

See if she breaks Longo's hour record in Mexico City next month.

B-

Bruce Johnston

Kurgan Gringion

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> saying such things. To the contrary she was one of the biggest sports stars they had based on her
> efforts in Sydney, which you call dam boring. I don't agree. But then again most of RBR considers
> womens races to be dam boring anyway so I would expect such comments.

Dumbass -

I've worked as a road manager for a few women's teams.

Not all women's racing is boring. The 2000 Olympics RR was, for the aforementioned reasons.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Kurgan Gringion

"Bruce Johnston" <riposa@sierratel.com> wrote in message news:3f6644c2@news.sti.net...
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best day for the women is when LZ won her third gold medal down
> under.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dumbass -
> > > >
> > > > That race was one of the most negative and boring, ever.
> > >
> > > By your account? That is your very narrow opinion.
> >
> >
> > Dumbass -
> >
> > Any race that doesn't have a break attempt get more than 10 seconds up
the
> > road is damn boring. I am not alone in that judgement.
> >
> > Do you understand the term 'negative racing'? That race was the epitome
of
> > it.
> >
> > That doesn't mean that you shouldn't hold that sort of crap in high
> regard.
> > Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
>
> Hey, I got a question for you Mr. Chang,
>
> Did you ever make it to Cat-1 or Cat-2?

Dumbass -

Ya, did the local/regional stuff for 6 years. Took me 5 years to get there. Not a whole
lotta talent.

Bruce Johnston

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> "Bruce Johnston" <riposa@sierratel.com> wrote in message news:3f6640ac$1@news.sti.net...
> >
> > saying such things. To the contrary she was one of the biggest sports
stars
> > they had based on her efforts in Sydney, which you call dam boring. I
don't
> > agree. But then again most of RBR considers womens races to be dam
boring
> > anyway so I would expect such comments.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> I've worked as a road manager for a few women's teams.
>
> Not all women's racing is boring. The 2000 Olympics RR was, for the aforementioned reasons.

I understand where you are coming from on this one. I have had lengthy similar discussions with
another RBR poster who was extremely critical of Sydney for lot of reasons. Your opinions are mild
compared to his, but again there are plenty that support her efforts and see it as far from boring,
but I know what the consensus is.

>
> You are entitled to your opinion.