Riding at night: a strategy for survival?

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Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...

Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
phone should be able to see him). And his bike cost him 2 grands
(important in this hierarchal jungle where you are what you drive), so
I guess he better find a use for it. The other day he told me he
didn't have the nerve anymore to ride in traffic (he ain't no chicken,
he's a veteran), which leads to this daring survival strategy.
Actually, I do the same with my canoe, where the motorboats put me at
the bottom of the food chain in the day time.

Well, our dinosaurs (SUVs and motorboats) make us get smarter and get
nocturnal. And I can only hope Darwin was right: "It is not the
strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but
the one most responsive to change."

NOTE: I told my neighbor to knock on my door. Just in case I'm
sleepless...

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ComandanteBanana wrote:
> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>
> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
> ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
> blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell

He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html


JonB

On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
> ComandanteBanana wrote:
> > Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
> > to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>
> > Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
> > ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
> > blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
>
> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>
> See:
>        http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>        http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>        http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>
> JonB

All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you need
is that blinking vest. I guess.

ComandanteBanana wrote:
> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
>>> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
>>> ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
>>> blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>
>> See:
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>
>> JonB
>
> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you need
> is that blinking vest. I guess.

Probably other people can see all those lights as well.

On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
wrote:

>ComandanteBanana wrote:
>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
>>>> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
>>>> ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
>>>> blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>
>>> See:
>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>
>>> JonB
>>
>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you need
>> is that blinking vest. I guess.
>
>Probably other people can see all those lights as well.


Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.

Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
collisons?

Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.

Gunner

Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>> here)...
>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
>>>>> on the cell
>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>
>>>> See:
>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>
>>>> JonB
>>>
>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>
>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>
>
> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>
> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
> collisons?
>
> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.

Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
>>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
>>>>>> on the cell
>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> JonB
>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>
>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>
>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>> collisons?
>>
>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
>> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>
> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.

Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
of getting involved in a car accident.

On May 2, 5:26 am, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >The other day he told me he
> >didn't have the nerve anymore to ride in traffic (he ain't no chicken,
> >he's a veteran),
>
> Which means he knows how easily and how randomly a life can be snuffed
> out

I guess so. I'm not so sure it would be much safer at night, as there
would be fewer but more dangerous drivers out there.

In the canoe, it's another story. Hardly any motorboats out there.

In article <3jnl14dmo7522fotjuf60r65f94mapv741@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:

> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
> collisons?

Because they are the worst drivers and ignore the rules?
;)

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ComandanteBanana wrote:
> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>
> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...

I've done this a lot, having a job that at times has me working night
shifts and getting off in the early morning hours.

Riding on wide roads with no cars and no noise is kind of interesting
the first few times, but I found the lack of scenery a bit monotonous.

Early Sunday mornings are the best time to go. And I tended to wait to
begin until an hour after the bars close.
~

On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
>>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
>>>>>> on the cell
>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> JonB
>>>>
>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>
>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>
>>
>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>
>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>> collisons?
>>
>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
>> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>
>Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.

So thats why they get hit from the rear.

Fascinating

Gunner, ex-leo

>

On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote:
>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
>>>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
>>>>>>> on the cell
>>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See:
>>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JonB
>>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>>
>>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>>
>>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>>> collisons?
>>>
>>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
>>> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>>
>> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.
>
>Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
>roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
>of getting involved in a car accident.


So thats why they get hit from the rear, while parked on the shoulder.

Fascinating

On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote:
>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
>>>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
>>>>>>> on the cell
>>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See:
>>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JonB
>>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>>
>>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>>
>>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>>> collisons?
>>>
>>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
>>> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>>
>> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.
>
>Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
>roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
>of getting involved in a car accident.


I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.

Wouldnt that be correct? They spend far far more time on the road
than anyone

Gunner

On May 2, 12:38 pm, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Rod Speed wrote:
> >> Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
> >>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
> >>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
> >>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
> >>>>>>> here)...
> >>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
> >>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a
> >>>>>>> vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting
> >>>>>>> on the cell
> >>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
> >>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
> >>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
> >>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>
> >>>>>> See:
> >>>>>>        http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
> >>>>>>        http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
> >>>>>>        http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>
> >>>>>> JonB
> >>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
> >>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
> >>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>
> >>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>
> >>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
> >>> collisons?
>
> >>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back window
> >>> of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>
> >> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.
>
> >Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
> >roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
> >of getting involved in a car accident.
>
> I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
> truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.
>
> Wouldnt that be correct?   They spend far far more time on the road
> than anyone
>
> Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Truckers are the best (and perhaps only good) drivers in America. They
undergo the training we all should be having.

Gunner wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>>> wrote:

[cuuuuut]

> I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
> truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.
>
> Wouldnt that be correct? They spend far far more time on the road
> than anyone

Truckers dont die because they drive BIG trucks. They only harm
other people, no harm comes to them. Police cars are small cars
compared to trucks.



JonB

Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen
>>>> <noone@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even
>>>>>>>> bought a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV
>>>>>>>> drivers chatting on the cell
>>>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JonB
>>>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>>>
>>>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>>>
>>>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>>>> collisons?
>>>>
>>>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
>>>> window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>>>
>>> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal
>>> speed limit.
>>
>> Thats right. Further more cops spend alot more time on the
>> roads than other people do, all that increases the chance
>> of getting involved in a car accident.
>
>
> I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
> truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.

Nope, because they are inside vehicles which have a hell of a lot higher weight that
what they run into, and are way higher up than the poor sucker in the car is too.

> Wouldnt that be correct?

Nope.

> They spend far far more time on the road than anyone

But there is much more involved than just time on the road.

Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought
>>>>>>> a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers
>>>>>>> chatting on the cell
>>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See:
>>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JonB
>>>>>
>>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>>
>>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>>> collisons?
>>>
>>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
>>> window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>>
>> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.

> So thats why they get hit from the rear.

They dont always get hit from the rear.

And those that do get hit when the car is stationary, are usually
OUTSIDE the car, in one of the most dangerous situations around,
in which they are in FAR more often than the average car driver is too.

> Fascinating

Pathetic, actually.

> Gunner, ex-leo

Just ex.

On Sat, 3 May 2008 06:04:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:37:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that
>>>>>>>> strategy to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are
>>>>>>>> here)...
>>>>>>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight...
>>>>>>>> And he ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought
>>>>>>>> a vest with blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers
>>>>>>>> chatting on the cell
>>>>>>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>>>>>>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>>>>>>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>>>>>>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>>>>>> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>>>>>> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JonB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you
>>>>>> need is that blinking vest. I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably other people can see all those lights as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless some drunk decides you are an intersection.
>>>>
>>>> Ever wonder why cops get killed more than anyone else in traffic
>>>> collisons?
>>>>
>>>> Drunks zone in on the flashing yellow or red lights in the back
>>>> window of a patrol car, like moths to a flame.
>>>
>>> Nope, because they spend a lot more time at well above the legal speed limit.
>
>> So thats why they get hit from the rear.
>
>They dont always get hit from the rear.
>
>And those that do get hit when the car is stationary, are usually
>OUTSIDE the car, in one of the most dangerous situations around,
>in which they are in FAR more often than the average car driver is too.
>
>> Fascinating
>
>Pathetic, actually.
>
>> Gunner, ex-leo
>
>Just ex.

I wouldn't put too much stock in his ex-LEO claim.

ComandanteBanana wrote:
> [...]
>
> Truckers are the best (and perhaps only good) drivers in America. They
> undergo the training we all should be having.

That includes following at a distance of less than 10 feet at 70 mph?
Not slowing down when the fog limits visibility so much one can barely
see the overpasses when going under them?

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Jon Bendtsen wrote:
> Gunner wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 11:43:53 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 07:11:21 +0200, Jon Bendtsen <noone@example.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>
> [cuuuuut]
>
>> I forgot to point out to you and Rod, that based on your criteria,
>> truckers should have the highest fatality rates of all.
>>
>> Wouldnt that be correct? They spend far far more time on the road
>> than anyone
>
> Truckers dont die because they drive BIG trucks. They only harm
> other people, no harm comes to them. Police cars are small cars
> compared to trucks.
>
Truckers hardly ever park on the shoulder, and exit on the driver's side
to walk up to a car parked ahead of them, which is, of course, routine
behavior for a police traffic stop.

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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