Re: John Bickmore asking for help with a very difficult problem

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On May 1, 1:11 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> John, I'm not sure I'm following you. You say you were born on a US
> Army base in the US. But, were you the child of citizens of some
> other country? I only ask because if your parents were US citizens,
> then the fact that you were born on an Army base is irrelevant. If
> you're a citizen, you're a citizen. They can't make YOU leave no
> matter what your wife's status is, and your children are citizens,
> too, so long as YOU are a citizen, assuming they were born in the US.

I think the original army base comment was just
John trying to emphasize his patriotic bona fides.

Of course they can't deport him. And if he's a
citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
were born in the US or not. But what does
that matter if they deport his wife? In today's
society, it's not considered normal to just wave
goodbye to your wife or mother as she's deported,
so as a practical matter he and the kids would
have to try to emigrate to Canadia.

> Of course, you could just tell 'em you messed up in the original
> application and your wife is actually Mexican.

Dream on. If you and your friends haven't had to
deal with the walking screwup that is ICE, be happy.
They are entirely capable of penalizing you for
trying to do the right thing.

Ben

On May 1, 3:23 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:

> I think the original army base comment was just
> John trying to emphasize his patriotic bona fides.

You are probably correct.

Can you post a link to the www.schwartzsoft.com page where you are
getting all these interpreters? Both myself and Amit could use them.

On May 1, 3:23 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:
> And if he's a
> citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
> were born in the US or not.

This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
US citizen.

On May 1, 8:54 pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 3:23 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
> > And if he's a
> > citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
> > were born in the US or not.
>
> This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
> father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
> residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
> US citizen.

The bottom line is, Bickmore needs both a lawyer and some leverage,
and I'm not sure he's going to find either one here in rbr.

On May 1, 8:54 pm, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 3:23 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
> > And if he's a
> > citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
> > were born in the US or not.
>
> This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
> father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
> residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
> US citizen.

You are correct that I assumed too much. On reading the
current law (since 1986) it appears that it depends on
how many years the U.S. citizen parent has lived in the U.S.
before the child's birth (I suspect that Bickmore meets
the requirement). I didn't see where marital status
entered into it, but you're likely much more familiar
with this law than I am.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-..html

I agree that he needs expert intervention which RBR
doesn't provide, although there has been some decent
advice in the thread.

Ben