Al Those Great Scientists Here

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<dustoyevsky@mac.com> wrote in message
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On May 7, 10:00 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> And of course those same sort of uneducated dolts (snip)
>
> Mirror time, TK (IRT the usual bail-out when your game is called on
> you-- this time, a "source" getting both its titties caught in the
> proverbial wringer)!

Let me see, if I claim that people who are making absolutely false claims
about climate change aren't qualified you insist that I need to be
qualified?

> Where was it you got your engineering degree from, again? What year?

USAF 1963, why?

"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?
>
> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.

Yet you don't seem to be able to demonstrate that you do anything at all.

Let's put together the sort of question which is what you really need to
answer -

How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially destroy or
murder in order to get your way?

Tom Kunich wrote:

>
> How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
> destroy or murder in order to get your way?
>
>

Can we also tap their women?

--
Bill Asher

Dans le message de
news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com,
Robert Chung <rechung@gmail.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published
>> by 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions
>> in 38 different countries ... and counting!
>
> NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:
>
> http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scientists-with-documented-doubts-about-the-heartland-institute

Delegates or popular votes?

Dans le message de news:Xns9A976B99F6E6BFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Robert Chung wrote:
>
>> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com.
>>> ..
>>>
>>>> On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published
>>>>> by 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research
>>>>> institutions in 38 different countries ... and counting!
>>>
>>>> NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:
>>>
>>>> http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scientists-with-documented-doubts-about
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?
>>
>> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
>> Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
>> beginning.
>>
>
> Not according to Schwartz. It's more like donating money to the EDF,
> which only guarantees you'll be asked to donate more money to the EDF.

EDF - Électricité de France ???

On May 7, 11:09 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
> > destroy or murder in order to get your way?
>
> Can we also tap their women?

One of my governor's best lines:

Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
wind in your hair.
Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
the lamentations of the women.

Tom Kunich wrote:
>> How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
>> destroy or murder in order to get your way?

I didn't realize climate scientists received CIA training.

William Asher wrote:
> Can we also tap their women?

Kunich thinks we're all gay so he isn't worried about that (although
he might be worried if he knew you to be a Jedi knight dabbling in the
back side of the Force).

Robert Chung wrote:

> On May 7, 11:09 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> > How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
>> > destroy or murder in order to get your way?
>>
>> Can we also tap their women?
>
> One of my governor's best lines:
>
> Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> wind in your hair.
> Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> the lamentations of the women.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

--
Bill Asher

Sandy wrote:

> EDF - Électricité de France ???

Environmental Defense Fund.

--
Bill Asher

On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > One of my governor's best lines:
>
> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> > wind in your hair.
> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> > the lamentations of the women.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
"...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."

On May 7, 8:47 am, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> > Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?
>
> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
> Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
> beginning.

If it cuts into your afternoon training rides, I'd say you have
misplaced priorities.

Donald Munro wrote:

> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
>>> destroy or murder in order to get your way?
>
> I didn't realize climate scientists received CIA training.

The way to think about it is that if you fail the climate scientist
subterfuge, intrigue, and mayhem aptitude test the CIA will take you. Once
you enroll in climate scientist training, you either graduate, or are never
heard from again. Sort of like assassin school in Ankh-Morpork, only
without the training in culture and dancing.

> William Asher wrote:
>> Can we also tap their women?
>
> Kunich thinks we're all gay so he isn't worried about that (although
> he might be worried if he knew you to be a Jedi knight dabbling in the
> back side of the Force).

It kind of makes you wonder what a Jedi page thinks of their chosen
profession as their master dabbles in the back side with force. Or not.

--
Bill Asher

Robert Chung wrote:

> On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > One of my governor's best lines:
>>
>> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
>> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
>> > wind in your hair.
>> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
>> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
>> > the lamentations of the women.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI
>
> Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
> "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."
>

It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up there
with:

Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.

--
Bill Asher

On May 7, 12:52 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> p.s.  If anyone gives a crap, ...

At this point, the most important thing is not the correctness of the
physical science, but of the social science. The uncertainty is
vanishing when it comes to the question of whether or not sufficient
(and "important") people give a crap about the more important
questions raised by social science and the implications.

Is there a list to sign for "scientists unconcerned about AGW?"

How about a list for "scientists concerned about retards with
political power?"

"I think a major reason why intellectuals tend to move towards
collectivism is that the collectivist answer is a simple one. If
there’s something wrong, pass a law and do something about it." --
Milton Friedman

"The great differences between the characteristic methods of the
physical sciences and those of the social sciences explain why the
natural scientist who turns to the work of the professional students
of social phenomena so often feels that he has got among a company of
people who habitually commit all the mortal sins which he is most
careful to avoid, and that a science of society conforming to his
standards does not yet exist." -- Hayek, _The Counter-Revolution of
Science, Studies on the Abuse of Reason_

"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message
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>
> "I think a major reason why intellectuals tend to move towards
> collectivism is that the collectivist answer is a simple one. If
> there's something wrong, pass a law and do something about it." --
> Milton Friedman

Let's not forget that those here who think of themselves as "Liberals" are
more than willing to support absolutely fascist techniques to get their way.

On TV, Al Gore and Ted Turner have stated that the whole world is going to
die unless we are willing to murder more than half of them. And they
advocate methods of that murder.

Dans le message de news:Xns9A9775BC23546FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Sandy wrote:
>
>> EDF - Électricité de France ???
>
> Environmental Defense Fund.

Subsidiary?

William Asher wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>
>> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com.
>>> ..
>>>
>>>> On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published
>>>>> by 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research
>>>>> institutions in 38 different countries ... and counting!
>>>> NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:
>>>> http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scientists-with-documented-doubts-about
>>>> ...
>>> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?
>> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
>> Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
>> beginning.
>>
>
> Not according to Schwartz. It's more like donating money to the EDF, which
> only guarantees you'll be asked to donate more money to the EDF.
>


He's right. But they all are.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > On May 7, 11:09 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> >> > How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
> >> > destroy or murder in order to get your way?
>
> >> Can we also tap their women?
>
> > One of my governor's best lines:
>
> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> > wind in your hair.
> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> > the lamentations of the women.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI
>
> --
> Bill Asher

This is why I'm a liberal. That doesn't sound all that fun to me. No,
for me the best in life is a long bike ride on a cold day, followed by
drinking a cold Dos Equis beer while taking a hot shower, a "nap",
followed by a nap, maybe another "nap", etc... Lamentations are not
what I want to hear from my women. That would Interfere with my
napping, not to mention my "napping".
-Paul

On May 7, 11:50 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > One of my governor's best lines:
>
> >> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> >> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> >> > wind in your hair.
> >> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> >> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> >> > the lamentations of the women.
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI
>
> > Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
> > "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."
>
> It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up there
> with:
>
> Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
> Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.
>
> --
> Bill Asher

A 40 watt pulse rifle??! That's ridiculous. I use a 100 watt pulse
rifle just to shoot starlings in my cherry trees. Who writes this
crap?
-Paul

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

> On May 7, 12:52 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> p.s.  If anyone gives a crap, ...
>
> At this point, the most important thing is not the correctness of the
> physical science, but of the social science. The uncertainty is
> vanishing when it comes to the question of whether or not sufficient
> (and "important") people give a crap about the more important
> questions raised by social science and the implications.

I've never seen "correctness" used as an adjective describing "social
science" before. Interesting concept. I guess the second quote from Salma
Hyek explains that.

The social and economic science of climate change is really very simple, to
avoid making any sacrifices during our lifetimes, most of us are betting
that the really bad effects will occur after we are dead.

--
Bill Asher