CO2, Mini, or Frame pump?
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I am wondering what anybody thinks about these types of inflators. Which is most efficient? I have been looking at the Serfas Mikro Blast..any comments..here is the link
http://www.serfas.com/product.asp?ProductID=228
Thanks for your feedback.
I am wondering what anybody thinks about these types of inflators. Which is most efficient? I have been looking at the Serfas Mikro Blast..any comments..here is the link
http://www.serfas.com/product.asp?ProductID=228
Thanks for your feedback.
That's nearly identical to what I've been using for the last 3 years. FWIW, for the last 5 years I haven't owned or used a frame pump, and
CO2 has yet to let me down.
Mine is here:
http://www.genuineinnovations.com/prodimages/1000_lg.jpg
I am a pump user, never liked CO2.
At the moment I ride with a SKS Wesemann mini-pump that has gotten me home more than once, no problems.
The best pump, IMHO, remains the Zefal HPX.
I use a CO2 inflator. I would rather be riding instead of pumping!
Just get a MINI PUMP. Don't use a stupid disposable C02 inflator:mad: .
It doesn't take long to pump a tyre and if needed again the pump is always there - unlike an inflator.
Even my micro pump (forgotten the name but at 65grams and 15cms long its pretty small - small enough for a back pocket:) ) will get 100PSI into a tyre without too much trouble. Its what I use for racing and I have larger minipumps for my training bikes.
Just get a MINI PUMP. Don't use a stupid disposable C02 inflator:mad: .
It doesn't take long to pump a tyre and if needed again the pump is always there - unlike an inflator.
Even my micro pump (forgotten the name but at 65grams and 15cms long its pretty small - small enough for a back pocket:) ) will get 100PSI into a tyre without too much trouble. Its what I use for racing and I have larger minipumps for my training bikes.
You're welcome to come here, to the desert, in summer, get a few flats, and tell us all about how great it was pumping up your tires under the hot desert sun, next to the even hotter tarmac. FYI, even in the morning, the blacktop and the desert floor can top 120°. If you really want to test the mettle of your pump and tire inflation theory, please wait until the road temp exceeds 140° before getting that flat. And please call. I'd like to take pictures of the event.
Disposable: sure. Recyclable: definitely. My ride time is my ride time, and I like to spend it riding.
Remember the good ol' days when derailleurs were stupid, just like CO2 inflators, today? :rolleyes:
I knew there would be some NOB who'd attempt to come back to me on that posting.
Time how long it takes to pump up a tyre - not long huh:) So would you really loose much 'ride time'? Of course not
People in the desert coped before C02 and plenty do now.
Why buy disposable crap when its not needed? Is it some USA thing?
Why don't you use your smarts(?) and set your bike up for minimum flats?
Derailleurs? When did that come into the equation? It didn't but....my favourite training bike is my Singlespeed and I can leave enough people in my wake on my SS who have the latest and greatest 20 speed bike.
You're welcome to come here, to the desert, in summer, get a few flats, and tell us all about how great it was pumping up your tires under the hot desert sun, next to the even hotter tarmac. FYI, even in the morning, the blacktop and the desert floor can top 120°. If you really want to test the mettle of your pump and tire inflation theory, please wait until the road temp exceeds 140° before getting that flat. And please call. I'd like to take pictures of the event.
Disposable: sure. Recyclable: definitely. My ride time is my ride time, and I like to spend it riding.
Remember the good ol' days when derailleurs were stupid, just like CO2 inflators, today? :rolleyes:
I knew there would be some NOB who'd attempt to come back to me on that posting.
Time how long it takes to pump up a tyre - not long huh:) So would you really loose much 'ride time'? Of course not
People in the desert coped before C02 and plenty do now.
Why buy disposable crap when its not needed? Is it some USA thing?
Why don't you use your smarts(?) and set your bike up for minimum flats?
Derailleurs? When did that come into the equation? It didn't but....my favourite training bike is my Singlespeed and I can leave enough people in my wake on my SS who have the latest and greatest 20 speed bike.
Ah, I see. Well, derailleurs came into the equation because the statement I made about them is purposely just as stupid as your comment about inflators.
As for the desert, you can talk about it when you've done it. Besides, inflator choice is a....that's right....choice.
There's nothing better about cycling than when some other cyclist feels the need to tell some other cyclists that their stupid for doing what they're doing. We need more people that are mucho in love with themselves.....like you.
It's probably be fun to read a list of choice you made and point out which ones are stupid. Of course, it's even more fun to let you go on and tell other folks just how stupid their choices, all so you can look like a ****nut.
Ah, I see. Well, derailleurs came into the equation because the statement I made about them is purposely just as stupid as your comment about inflators.
As for the desert, you can talk about it when you've done it. Besides, inflator choice is a....that's right....choice.
There's nothing better about cycling than when some other cyclist feels the need to tell some other cyclists that their stupid for doing what they're doing. We need more people that are mucho in love with themselves.....like you.
It's probably be fun to read a list of choice you made and point out which ones are stupid. Of course, it's even more fun to let you go on and tell other folks just how stupid their choices, all so you can look like a ****nut.
Hail the king of ****nut :D Is that even a word? If you say so then it must be :rolleyes:
That's nearly identical to what I've been using for the last 3 years. FWIW, for the last 5 years I haven't owned or used a frame pump, and
CO2 has yet to let me down.
Mine is here:
http://www.genuineinnovations.com/prodimages/1000_lg.jpg
I purchased the same a few years ago, but was carrying a Crankbros minipump in my jersey backpocket until I saw the frustration of my group as we waited for one guy to pump his tire to full inflation. Since then I have been carrying the Co2 kit. It weighs slightly more, but is super quick for a tire change when you have an impatient group waiting. :)
I have yet to personally use my kit, but I have provided my kit to other riders to fix their flats. Thankfully, about 90% of my group now uses Co2.
I purchased the same a few years ago, but was carrying a Crankbros minipump in my jersey backpocket until I saw the frustration of my group as we waited for one guy to pump his tire to full inflation. Since then I have been carrying the Co2 kit. It weighs slightly more, but is super quick for a tire change when you have an impatient group waiting. :)
I have yet to personally use my kit, but I have provided my kit to other riders to fix their flats. Thankfully, about 90% of my group now uses Co2.
Agree, CO2 is a great time saver and courtesy when your buddies are waiting.....even better if they've gone off and left you to struggle pumping up a tire.
I've used CO2 twice in the last 4 years, 17K miles on the road, so I don't consider the environment impact significant. The 24 grams of CO2 discharged is less than starting a car once, and the spent cartridges don't even show in all the roadside litter here :)
the spent cartridges don't even show in all the roadside litter here :)
You're kidding us, right?
You're kidding us, right?
Yeah, just an attempt at humor. The litter is pretty disgusting here though. Rode in Italy recently, and probably didn't see more than a half dozen bottles or cans on the roadside in 500 kms. On some roads here, can see that many in a 100 meters.
Yeah, just an attempt at humor. The litter is pretty disgusting here though. Rode in Italy recently, and probably didn't see more than a half dozen bottles or cans on the roadside in 500 kms. On some roads here, can see that many in a 100 meters. I can tell that you weren't riding in Naples!
Yeah, just an attempt at humor. The litter is pretty disgusting here though. Rode in Italy recently, and probably didn't see more than a half dozen bottles or cans on the roadside in 500 kms. On some roads here, can see that many in a 100 meters.
My wife and daughter were in Milan two years ago, and they said it was like a garbage dump. Muy dirty city.
http://www.topeak.com/products/Mini-Pumps/MicroRocketCB
54 grams (55 with the rubber valve hole plug) and enough carbon fibre for three extra style points.
I've pumped up about a half-dozen roadside tube changes with it and I doubt it takes two minutes to get up to rideable pressure. There's nothing wrong with CO2 inflators. On long training rides that roam far from home I carry one just in case the pump fails.
http://www.topeak.com/products/Mini-Pumps/MicroRocketCB
54 grams (55 with the rubber valve hole plug) and enough carbon fibre for three extra style points.
I've pumped up about a half-dozen roadside tube changes with it and I doubt it takes two minutes to get up to rideable pressure. There's nothing wrong with CO2 inflators. On long training rides that roam far from home I carry one just in case the pump fails.
I agree with that and have a recent experience to convince me.
I was out with 2 other guys on an 80+ mile ride and one of the guys flatted 3 times in a row. He almost used up all of our CO2 cartridges and luckily there was an organized century that crossed paths with us and one of those riders stopped and gave us another tube and cartridge. I actually had another tube and cartridge available, but we still had 50 miles to go and we needed to reserve those in case there was another flat among us.
I think on future non-sagged long rides I may carry 2 CO2's, 2 tubes, patch kit, my crank bros mini pump. It seems like a lot to carry, but most of that fits nicely in my pockets and saddle bag. I also carry plenty of gels and cash for myself and those who seem to forget to bring enough food.
I agree with that and have a recent experience to convince me.
I was out with 2 other guys on an 80+ mile ride and one of the guys flatted 3 times in a row. He almost used up all of our CO2 cartridges and luckily there was an organized century that crossed paths with us and one of those riders stopped and gave us another tube and cartridge. I actually had another tube and cartridge available, but we still had 50 miles to go and we needed to reserve those in case there was another flat among us.
I think on future non-sagged long rides I may carry 2 CO2's, 2 tubes, patch kit, my crank bros mini pump. It seems like a lot to carry, but most of that fits nicely in my pockets and saddle bag. I also carry plenty of gels and cash for myself and those who seem to forget to bring enough food.
When it rains it pours! I will go years without a flat and then there is that ride when you use up every tube, patch and cartridge in the group. And, yes, it is usually that one guy who keeps flatting. Still, you can get CO2s and 700 tubes at any Wal-Mart or KMart. On an epic ride, it is nice for at least one guy in the group to have a mini pump. On most rides, it is overkill.
Dang...how prophetic! Yesterday one of my Bontrager tubes had a failure at the brass stem/rubber junction. No puncture...it just started leaking. It took way less time to pump it up with the pump than it did digging out the tire lever, spare tube, pulling the rear wheel off, breaking the bead, R&R'ing the tube...
Now, if only I had mounted the sew-up wheelset yesterday! Heh!
CO2... all the way... it's quick and and takes up very little room and gives you the proper PSI. I started out with a large hand pump but it would lose it's force as it neared 80 PSI. I carry a mini carbon fiber hand pump on my commuter bike as back up to CO2, but have only used it for the pre-inflation of the tube before putting it on. I use a CO2 pump similar to that pictured above... it comes with a plastic handle that screws onto the head so you can use non-threaded, but to save room, i just get the threaded and just carry the head part around ... it has a lock on it too so you don't use the CO2 until you're ready.
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