Orange P7/One-One Inbred and 48 tooth chainrings
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I am considering getting either an Orange P7 or building up a bike around the On-One Inbred frame.
In either case I will be intending to fit a non-compact chainset (26,36,48) at some point to do some
touring. I have noticed that on some bikes due to the angle/bend of the chainstays (for mud
clearance) there is insufficient clearance to fit larger chainrings (Surly for example, when listing
the spec. of their Karate Monkey frame, state that there is only enough clearance for a 48tooth
max.). The On-One website states that they have fitted 2.7" tyres to the Inbred so I have concerns
as to whether there is enough clearance for a 48 toother.
I have tried emailing both On-One and Orange twice to find out whether their respective bikes would
take a non-compact chainset but have had no replies. I was wondering whether anyone knows whether
either of these frames would take a non-compact 26,36,48 chainset (I was think of using the
non-compact Deore M510).
Very many thanks for any help. With Kind Regards, Paul.
"Paul" <usenet@i12.com> wrote in message news:bk5agt$mlu$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> I am considering getting either an Orange P7 or building up a bike around the On-One Inbred frame.
> In either case I will be intending to fit a non-compact chainset (26,36,48) at some point to do
> some touring. I have noticed that on some bikes due to the angle/bend of the chainstays (for
mud
> clearance) there is insufficient clearance to fit larger chainrings (Surly for example, when
> listing the spec. of their Karate Monkey frame, state
that
> there is only enough clearance for a 48tooth max.). The On-One website states that they have
> fitted 2.7" tyres to the Inbred so I have concerns
as
> to whether there is enough clearance for a 48 toother.
>
> I have tried emailing both On-One and Orange twice to find out whether
their
> respective bikes would take a non-compact chainset but have had no
replies.
> I was wondering whether anyone knows whether either of these frames would take a non-compact
> 26,36,48 chainset (I was think of using the non-compact Deore M510).
>
> Very many thanks for any help. With Kind Regards, Paul.
>
>
Paul,
Surprised that Brant @ on-one didn't get back to you, he's usually really on the ball with EMail
responses. Have you tried posting the question on the singletrackworld.com forum ? Brant frequents
that forum as well as lots of Inbred riders.
Andy.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:27:20 +0100, "Andy" <noemailaddy@given.here> wrote:
>
>"Paul" <usenet@i12.com> wrote in message news:bk5agt$mlu$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>> I am considering getting either an Orange P7 or building up a bike around the On-One Inbred
>> frame. In either case I will be intending to fit a non-compact chainset (26,36,48) at some
>> point to do some touring. I have noticed that on some bikes due to the angle/bend of the
>> chainstays (for
>mud
>> clearance) there is insufficient clearance to fit larger chainrings (Surly for example, when
>> listing the spec. of their Karate Monkey frame, state
>that
>> there is only enough clearance for a 48tooth max.). The On-One website states that they have
>> fitted 2.7" tyres to the Inbred so I have concerns
>as
>> to whether there is enough clearance for a 48 toother.
>>
>> I have tried emailing both On-One and Orange twice to find out whether
>their
>> respective bikes would take a non-compact chainset but have had no
>replies.
>> I was wondering whether anyone knows whether either of these frames would take a non-compact
>> 26,36,48 chainset (I was think of using the non-compact Deore M510).
>>
>> Very many thanks for any help. With Kind Regards, Paul.
>>
>>
>
>Paul,
>
>Surprised that Brant @ on-one didn't get back to you, he's usually really on the ball with EMail
>responses. Have you tried posting the question on the singletrackworld.com forum ? Brant frequents
>that forum as well as lots of Inbred riders.
>
>Andy.
>
>
Not quite the reply you're after, but I have the Deore chainset you mention on my Orange Evo2
(coverted to heavy duty tourer) and it's very good indeed! Especially for the price.
Thanks for that. Interestingly the Evo2 is another bike that's caught my eye, I'd decided to go the
steel route as I wanted a bike that would last but I've been hearing that well built aluminium
frames can also last a lifetime and the Evo2 is certainly well built (and has the rack mounts that
the P7 has). It's good to know that the standard Deore chainset will fit it.
Thanks again, Paul.
"Chris Heys" <cheys_007@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Not quite the reply you're after, but I have the Deore chainset you mention on my Orange Evo2
> (coverted to heavy duty tourer) and it's very good indeed! Especially for the price.
Interesting Chris, I have a 15" Evo O2 and could not use a rack/pannier on it due to lack of heel
clearance . . . what rack are you using ? or do you have a larger frame ?
Fd
"Paul" <usenet@i12.com> writes:
> I'd decided to go the steel route as I wanted a bike that would last but I've been hearing that
> well built aluminium frames can also last a lifetime
My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the 2004
models are only guaranteed for three years.
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"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
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> My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
--
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
So if it fails and you die as a result then it wouldn't have failed in a warranty situation your
next of kin can pick up on? ;-/
Pete.
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:58:16 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> in
<bk78e9$517$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:87ekygrf27.fsf_-_@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>
>> My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
>> 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
>
>
>So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
Beware: Read the small print. A lifetime guarantee may be for the "lifetime of the product", NOT
the lifetime of the user. Your idea of a suitable lifetime may be very different from the
manufacturer's idea. There may not even be a reference to what the manufacturer thinks is a
suitable lifetime. Certainly when I worked in a bikeshop/outdoor shop, the Berghaus rep was
unwilling to tell us what his company thought was a suitable product lifetime. Presumably in which
case, case law will prevail?
Love and guarantees from Rich x
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> writes:
> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:87ekygrf27.fsf_-_@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>
> > My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> > 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
>
> So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
ROFL! Looks like it...
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;; no eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. ;; Jim Morrison
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
>
> So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
No because logically it failed first and then you died. Hence it failed in your lifetime ;-)
Tony
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> wrote in message
news:<bk78e9$517$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>...
> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:87ekygrf27.fsf_-_@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>
> > My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> > 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
>
>
> So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
seriously though,does not surprise me . My one from a reputable shop within the M25 only had a
2 year. I was assured by Evans that the replacement Trek frame had a lifetime warranty but I
have heard that they (Trek) refused to replace a carbon one which came detached from the BB
after 2 years.
Richard Bates <richardzzzz@cuddle.clara.zzzzco.uk> writes:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:58:16 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> in
> <bk78e9$517$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> >news:87ekygrf27.fsf_-_@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> >
> >> My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> >> 2004 models are only guaranteed for three years.
> >
> >
> >So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
>
> Beware: Read the small print. A lifetime guarantee may be for the "lifetime of the product", NOT
> the lifetime of the user.
No, this one is specifically 'the lifetime of the purchasor', i.e. me.
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:54:04 +0100, "Fergus Duncan" <fergus@zRiEpMlOoVcEkk.com> wrote:
>
>"Chris Heys" <cheys_007@REMOVEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:htkdmv0u1457nniah6qvo0oj0imnjt82nj@4ax.com...
>
>> Not quite the reply you're after, but I have the Deore chainset you mention on my Orange Evo2
>> (coverted to heavy duty tourer) and it's very good indeed! Especially for the price.
>
>Interesting Chris, I have a 15" Evo O2 and could not use a rack/pannier on it due to lack of heel
>clearance . . . what rack are you using ? or do you have a larger frame ?
>
>Fd
>
I use a Blackburn MTN-1 (think that's the proper model number). It's a 19" frame. The wishbone rear
forced me to use a single top strut to the crud catcher frame mount, but otherwise is a good fit
with plenty of heal clearence. Bit scared of stripping the aluminium dropouts though. Cross that
when I come to it.
Cheers, Chris
martin wrote:
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> wrote in message
> news:<bk78e9$517$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>...
>
> seriously though,does not surprise me . My one from a reputable shop within the M25 only had a
> 2 year. I was assured by Evans that the replacement Trek frame had a lifetime warranty but I
> have heard that they (Trek) refused to replace a carbon one which came detached from the BB
> after 2 years.
My 1997 Santa Cruz had a 3 year warranty and its still going strong to the point where I've just
kitted it out with a set of Shivers and a 5th Element. I've (tempting fate) never had any doubts
about the integrity of the frame.
Tony
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>>Interesting Chris, I have a 15" Evo O2,...."
*snip*
>I use a Blackburn MTN-1 (think that's the proper model number). It's a 19" frame. The wishbone rear
>forced me to use a single top strut to the crud catcher frame mount, but otherwise is a good fit
>with plenty of heal clearence. Bit scared of stripping the aluminium dropouts though. Cross that
>when I come to it.
>
>Cheers, Chris
Sorry, swap aluminium dropouts for eyelets in last post.
Chris
In article <6398dc76.0309161203.5096335f@posting.google.com>, martin
<URL:mailto:Martin.Malins@st-marys.nhs.uk> (mailto:Martin.Malins@st-marys.nhs.uk) wrote:
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <spamdump@chapmancentral.com> wrote in message news:<bk78e9$
> 517$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>...
> > "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:87ekygrf27.fsf_-_@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> > > My 2003 Cannondale Jekyll is guranteed against frame defects for my lifetime, but I notice the
> > > 2004 models are only guaranteed for three
> > So if the frame breaks and kills you, the warranty runs out :-/
> seriously though,does not surprise me . My one from a reputable shop within the M25 only had a
> 2 year. I was assured by Evans that the replacement Trek frame had a lifetime warranty but I
> have heard that they (Trek) refused to replace a carbon one which came detached from the BB
> after 2 years.
Conversely; I've just had a replacement frame from Marin for my three-year old Attack Trail. The BB
part of the frame detached its self while I was readying myself for a grassy downhill. Luck? It
comes and it goes... ;-)
Alex.
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