Is the bike an improvement on God's design?

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(the original subject here is God made the banana to fit in one's
hand)

>>> ...with a tab for easy opening! Fits the hand perfectly as well! :-)

>> I thought He made the hand to fit the banana!

> You really don't want to know what i misread that as...

....

OK, let's change the subject... ;)

I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!

Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.


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"The revolution starts when you ride a bike. You think of it as a
kinder, gentler vehicle that will help keep Peace as well as save the
Environment, and make you Sexy."

http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

"ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
> depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
> Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!

Kangaroos hopping are very efficient. I don't know how they compare to a
bike, but a kangaroo will beat a bike every time over naturally rough
ground.
>
> Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.

Kangaroos are produced by evolution. That is why they are so efficient over
natural ground. Bikes are mainly designed for smooth man made surfaces
like roads and pedways.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:59:04 -0700, ComandanteBanana wrote:

> (the original subject here is God made the banana to fit in one's hand)
>
>>>> ...with a tab for easy opening! Fits the hand perfectly as well! :-)
>
>>> I thought He made the hand to fit the banana!
>
>> You really don't want to know what i misread that as...
>
> ...
>
> OK, let's change the subject... ;)
>
> I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man depended
> on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey. Imagine what Jesus
> would have done if he had a bike!
>
> Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.

Does it bollox.

>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "The revolution starts when you ride a bike. You think of it as a kinder,
> gentler vehicle that will help keep Peace as well as save the Environment,
> and make you Sexy."
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution

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> Does it bollox.
Cogent argument Paul. Nice one, well thought out.

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:54:25 -0700, BigRab wrote:

>
>> Does it bollox.
> Cogent argument Paul. Nice one, well thought out.

Thanks.
NP

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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:48:43 -0700, Jack May wrote:

>
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1a0d9723-a1aa-4394-98d4-acba90333b56@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man depended
>> on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey. Imagine what
>> Jesus would have done if he had a bike!
>
> Kangaroos hopping are very efficient. I don't know how they compare to a
> bike, but a kangaroo will beat a bike every time over naturally rough
> ground.
>>
>> Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.
>
> Kangaroos are produced by evolution.

Your proof?


> That is why they are so efficient

No, they are "efficient" because of the way they work, because of the way
natural laws have been exploited. It's not because of evolution.
Evolution is a process of construction of new forms. It is blind even
according to Darwinists evolution is a blind process.


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On Jun 2, 11:48 pm, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote:
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1a0d9723-a1aa-4394-98d4-acba90333b56@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
> > depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
> > Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!
>
> Kangaroos hopping are very efficient.   I don't know how they compare toa
> bike, but a kangaroo will beat a bike every time over naturally rough
> ground.
>
>
>
> > Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.
>
> Kangaroos are produced by evolution.  That is why they are so efficient over
> natural ground.   Bikes are mainly designed for smooth man made surfaces
> like roads and pedways.

Well, bikes evolve too.

Originally Posted by Ed Holland
"Or, is the bike part of evolution"

Such seems to be the case...

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/5115.jpg

The whole process was like this: the monkey walked first, then became
a man, then invented the bike, and then went for bananas on his
bike.

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:02:09 +0100, Dead Paul <dead_paul@no.reply>
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:48:43 -0700, Jack May wrote:
>
>>
>> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1a0d9723-a1aa-4394-98d4-acba90333b56@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man depended
>>> on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey. Imagine what
>>> Jesus would have done if he had a bike!
>>
>> Kangaroos hopping are very efficient. I don't know how they compare to a
>> bike, but a kangaroo will beat a bike every time over naturally rough
>> ground.
>>>
>>> Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.
>>
>> Kangaroos are produced by evolution.
>
>Your proof?
>
>
>> That is why they are so efficient
>
>No, they are "efficient" because of the way they work, because of the way
>natural laws have been exploited. It's not because of evolution.
>Evolution is a process of construction of new forms. It is blind even
>according to Darwinists evolution is a blind process.

Right, and Darwin did not come up with the theory of evolution. He
came up with the idea that natural selection takes place because some
random mutations are beneficial in the particular environment.
Somehow, a mutation (or mutations) allowed certain kangaroos to jump
better than others and they escaped predators. Seems fairly
reasonable. That pouch for raising young is a bit hard to take though.

Not only that, the pouch exists on that weird creature that hangs
around my backyard, the oPossum. Odd beast that one is.

Bikes evolve also, but not through random mutation.

The natural world has many answers to the problems we face today.
There's even a science about it...

"Sociobiology is a neo-Darwinian synthesis of scientific disciplines
that attempts to explain social behavior in all species by considering
the evolutionary advantages the behaviors may have. It is often
considered a branch of biology and sociology, but also draws from
ethology, anthropology, evolution, zoology, archeology, population
genetics and other disciplines. Within the study of human societies,
sociobiology is closely related to the fields of human behavioral
ecology and evolutionary psychology.

Sociobiology investigates social behaviors, such as mating patterns,
territorial fights, pack hunting, and the hive society of social
insects."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology

Don't you see the evolutionary advantages of riding a bike? I see
many.

(I'm using some metaphoric language here, just like the Christians use
Adam and Eve, just that the terminology is Teflon and cast iron.)

While Teflon wears out, cast iron is "forever," but you have to keep
"curing it"...

In other words, we should live under a permanent state of r-evolution,
making corrections along the way.

It's what made humans out of monkeys. The Christians' creation though
denies evolution both in the past and present. Proof of that is how
they stick to their SUVs in the face of oil crisis, while denying
space to the "smart" bicycles. If they studied life at the time of the
dinosaurs, they'd find out that's a recipe for disaster, which they
call "Armageddon." No more preaching for today. ;)

On Jun 2, 11:48 pm, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote:
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1a0d9723-a1aa-4394-98d4-acba90333b56@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I think the bike is an improvement on God's design. Before, man
> > depended on the beasts to get around. Even Jesus rode a donkey.
> > Imagine what Jesus would have done if he had a bike!
>
> Kangaroos hopping are very efficient.   I don't know how they compare toa
> bike, but a kangaroo will beat a bike every time over naturally rough
> ground.
>
>
>
> > Which proves that mankind can better itself without help from above.
>
> Kangaroos are produced by evolution.  That is why they are so efficient over
> natural ground.   Bikes are mainly designed for smooth man made surfaces
> like roads and pedways.

That makes sense because the donkey is not very well thought out...

The bike is the product of intelligent design, the donkey was made
with little attention to comfort and speed.

I think it was a product of God wanting to finish creation in a few
days.

"ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:852a5836-8179-47de-9072-f05081320a7d@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> (I'm using some metaphoric language here, just like the Christians use
> Adam and Eve, just that the terminology is Teflon and cast iron.)
>
> While Teflon wears out, cast iron is "forever," but you have to keep
> "curing it"...
>
> In other words, we should live under a permanent state of r-evolution,
> making corrections along the way.
>
> It's what made humans out of monkeys. The Christians' creation though
> denies evolution both in the past and present. Proof of that is how
> they stick to their SUVs in the face of oil crisis, while denying
> space to the "smart" bicycles. If they studied life at the time of the
> dinosaurs, they'd find out that's a recipe for disaster, which they
> call "Armageddon." No more preaching for today. ;)

I don't believe you.

"Dead Paul" wrote: No, they are "efficient" because of the way they work,
because of the way
> natural laws have been exploited. It's not because of evolution.
> Evolution is a process of construction of new forms. It is blind even
> according to Darwinists evolution is a blind process.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oy, do you have a wrong number! They work the way they do because that is
the way they have evolved. What part of natural selection don't you get?

On Jun 3, 11:36 am, Checkers <mkone...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> On Jun 3, 5:04 pm, "zencycle" <funkmaste...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > From: "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>

> > > I don't think a smart vehicle such as the bike can ever become
> > > mainstream in a stupid place...

> > I ride over 10,000 miles each year, I can't tell you how many times I've
> > heard the line 'cars have the right of way over bikes', or 'bikes don't
> > belong on the road', or, my favorite 'bikes should ride _against_ the flow
> > of traffic'.

> 10 000 whao, have you guys got special lanes there? you won't make 50
> here and your a gonner. you'll be lucky if ten taxi's pass you and
> very lucky to see 15, you will see no more :(

Here I've decided to stay off the roads. Waiting for the SUVs to go
the way of the dinosaurs.

They reject to evolve but the world is changing all around them...

GM to close four plants, may unload Hummer line

WILMINGTON, Delaware (Reuters) - General Motors Corp on Tuesday said
it was closing four truck plants and could sell its Hummer brand to
cut slow-selling trucks and SUVs from its lineup in response to higher
gasoline prices the automaker now sees as a permanent threat to its
business.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080603/ts_nm/gm_dc

I think Americans can get smarter, but not THAT Smart...

The tiny car that won over Europeans with its cute looks and very high
mileage is finally coming to America, just not in the way you might
expect it to.

...

Instead, smart USA is betting Americans won't want the small smarts,
at least not yet, and has taken a different strategy: a smart SUV,
available here in 2006. The first press release touts not the mileage
but that it's "loaded with adrenaline — both off road as well as on."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5217861/

Well, if we are not ready for a Smart car, we won't be ready for a
bike jaunt to the supermarket for a long time... :(

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:22:24 +0000, Leo Lichtman wrote:

>
> "Dead Paul" wrote: No, they are "efficient" because of the way they
> work, because of the way
>> natural laws have been exploited. It's not because of evolution.
>> Evolution is a process of construction of new forms. It is blind even
>> according to Darwinists evolution is a blind process.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Oy, do you have a wrong number! They work the way they do because that is
> the way they have evolved. What part of natural selection don't you get?

If you believe all that Darwinist sh*t then you have to accept that
random processes are the only means of producing new forms. Natural
selection does not produce new forms.


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On Jun 3, 1:24 pm, "zencycle" <funkmaste...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 11:36 am, Checkers <mkone...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> >> chx
> >> 10 000 whao, have you guys got special lanes there? you won't make 50
> >> here and your a gonner. you'll be lucky if ten taxi's pass you and
> >> very lucky to see 15, you will see no more :(
>
> Sometimes, though not where I live. I get most of them by commuting. I've
> been doing it for about 20 years now (in and around the boston area), and
> I've only ever had an incident once, where a driver coming from the opposite
> direction took a left right in front of me. I catapulted over the car,
> landed headfirst (helmets work), broke my nose and ankle.
>
> I tend to get a bit aggressive in traffic, and have learned to to anticipate
> drivers. IF you pretend they don't see you, you're much better off. You need
> to _make_ them see you. That is, make a move to take the lane when you need
> it, but always with a bit of hesistation, so you can withdraw quickly.
>
> I worked with a women recently who saw me drafting a jeep in traffic
> traveling home from work one day. She said to me, "you're just a little bit
> crazy, aren't you"
>
> It takes practice commuting in traffic, especially in a city regarded as one
> of the least-bicycle friendly in the country. I wouldn't recommend it for
> neophyte cyclist.

It all makes sense until you figure the "unknown" out there...

It's not a god, but the only times I come close to praying is when I
see those SUVs pass me within inches while their drivers chat on the
phone, and I just want to come out alive from that harrowing
experience, and promise to myself never to try to go to Heaven, where
those Christians go. In other words, I become a BORN AGAIN
AGNOSTIC... ;)

On Jun 3, 2:23 pm, Dead Paul <dead_p...@no.reply> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:22:24 +0000, Leo Lichtman wrote:
>
> > "Dead Paul" wrote:   No, they are "efficient" because of the way they
> > work, because of the way
> >> natural laws have been exploited. It's not because of evolution.
> >> Evolution is a process of construction of new forms. It is blind even
> >> according to Darwinists evolution is a blind process.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Oy, do you have a wrong number!  They work the way they do because that is
> > the way they have evolved.  What part of natural selection don't you get?
>
> If you believe all that Darwinist sh*t then you have to accept that
> random processes are the only means of producing new forms. Natural
> selection does not produce new forms.

I think that the Darwinistic sh*t is not something the Christians
believe in... THE PRACTICE IT! ;)

On Jun 3, 3:08 pm, "zencycle" <funkmaste...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: "trog69" <tom.tro...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > Well, since I've already veered off topic, I think that the roadblock
> > to the Smart car coming to the US is stupidity. The automakers and
> > the potential buyers seem to not know what the other really wants.
>
> I would agree with the 'stupid' aspect but not for the same reason. I think
> it's more that most drivers in the US don't want to admit they're part of
> the problem and get rid of their <20MPG vehicles. They see large cars as a
> status symbol and ego booster, and downsizing would be admitting some sort
> of intellectual failure, but that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.

Perhaps they interpret that whatever they do, God will clean it up for
them, and that in the "last days" everything is supposed to go wrong.
So it all becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy they help to create.
Worse, they believe they can't help it by riding a bike.

And then they vote Republican... ;)

I know many of you don't believe, but the Devil is capable of doing
many evil things...

Originally Posted by John E
'In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth and populated
the Earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow and
red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and
healthy lives. Then using God's great gifts, Satan created Ben and
Jerry's Ice Cream and Krispy Creme Donuts. And Satan said, "You want
chocolate with that?" And Man said, "Yes!" and Woman said, "and as
long as you're at it, add some sprinkles." And they gained 10 pounds.
And Satan smiled.

And God created the healthful yogurt that Woman might keep the figure
that Man found so fair. And Satan brought forth white flour from the
wheat, and sugar from the cane and combined them. And Woman went from
size 6 to size 14.

So God said, "Try my fresh green salad." And Satan presented Thousand-
Island Dressing, buttery croutons and garlic toast on the side. And
Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.

God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetables and olive oil
in which to cook them." And Satan brought forth deep fried fish and
chicken-fried steak so big it needed its own platter. And Man gained
more weight and his cholesterol went through the roof.

God then created a light, fluffy white cake, named it "Angel Food
Cake," and said, "It is good." Satan then created chocolate cake and
named it "Devil's Food."

God then brought forth running shoes so that His children might lose
those extra pounds. And Satan gave cable TV with a remote control so
Man would not have to toil changing the channels. And Man and Woman
laughed and cried before the flickering blue light and gained pounds.

Then God brought forth the potato, naturally low in fat and brimming
with nutrition. And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the
starchy center into chips and deep-fried them. And Man gained pounds.

God then gave lean beef so that Man might consume fewer calories and
still satisfy his appetite. And Satan created McDonald's and its 99-
cent double cheeseburger. Then said, "You want fries with that?" And
Man replied, "Yes! And super size them!" And Satan said, "It is good."
And Man went into cardiac arrest.

God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
Then Satan created HMOs.'

....

It all makes sense. But just to add a comment: Satan kept the roads
full of reckless SUVs, so anyone that wanted to ride a bike would be
intimidated, and would turn to his beloved Idiot Box where to watch
the latest in food technology and news of the world being a scary
place --just for the ratings, you know.