Oldest Racer in SF?
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Who was the oldest guy out there Sunday?
Darren Baker? Rolf Aldag? ;-) Anyone over 40 years old? What about the Webcor roster?
Anyone younger than Sterling Magnell (Sierra Nevada BREWING COMPANY)?
-Ken
Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told her.
Isn't Gord Fraser a 35+ masters fattie?
Mark VandenBerghe
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:NVI9b.473981$YN5.323080@sccrnsc01...
> Who was the oldest guy out there Sunday?
>
> Darren Baker? Rolf Aldag? ;-) Anyone over 40 years old? What about the Webcor roster?
>
> Anyone younger than Sterling Magnell (Sierra Nevada BREWING COMPANY)?
>
> -Ken
"DanSchmatz" <danschmatz@aol.com> wrote in ...
> how old is eki?
38 years young now.
"Mark VandenBerghe" <markv@vdbprop.com> wrote in message news:yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net...
> Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told her.
>
> Isn't Gord Fraser a 35+ masters fattie?
This is just my personal opinion: I don't consider Ekimov, Museeuw, Gord or Malcom Elliot to be
Masters Fatties. Those guys are the opposite of the Masters Fattie, not conceding anything to age.
>Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29 PM
>Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
>
>Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told her.
She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good enough shape for it. Josh
Zlotlow JAZlotlow@aol.com Sacramento, California Sacramento Golden Wheelmen www.sacgw.com
Darrren Baker did SF??
> Who was the oldest guy out there Sunday?
>
> Darren Baker? Rolf Aldag? ;-) Anyone over 40 years old? What about the Webcor roster?
>
> Anyone younger than Sterling Magnell (Sierra Nevada BREWING COMPANY)?
>
> -Ken
"Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> >
> >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told
her.
>
> She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
enough
> shape for it.
Who is this on Team Fuji here:
http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
"What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
-kjp
DanSchmatz <danschmatz@aol.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> how old is eki?
Too old to be called that.
"DanSchmatz" <danschmatz@aol.com> wrote in message
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> how old is eki?
38 as is Flash I think.
"karlwithak" <karlwithak@@posting.google.com...
> Darrren Baker did SF??
Yes he did. He didn't finish it though.
Here he is in green (Webcor) :
http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/peters0688.jpg
> > Who was the oldest guy out there Sunday?
> >
> > Darren Baker? Rolf Aldag? ;-) Anyone over 40 years old? What about the Webcor roster?
> >
> > Anyone younger than Sterling Magnell (Sierra Nevada BREWING COMPANY)?
> >
> > -Ken
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
>
> "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> > >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > >
> > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told
> her.
> >
> > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
> enough
> > shape for it.
>
> Who is this on Team Fuji here:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
Goddamm.
That is what I'd call Masters Fattie.
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
>
> "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> > >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > >
> > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told
> her.
> >
> > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
> enough
> > shape for it.
>
> Who is this on Team Fuji here:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
>
> I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
>
> Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
>
> "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
>
>
> -kjp
I thought Catherine Marsal was looking chubby. This girl needs to hit the high sierra training camp.
Ken, she wasn't really in the race was she? That's a spectator, right?
Mark VandenBerghe
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
>
> "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> > >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > >
> > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told
> her.
> >
> > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
> enough
> > shape for it.
>
> Who is this on Team Fuji here:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
>
> I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
>
> Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
>
> "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
>
>
> -kjp
In the women's race they were all REALLY slow up Fillmore. And the gearing was surprisingly high
with almost everyone with at least a 30 or 32 and many triples.
But I'd like to point out that the first year of the men's race we saw the same thing.
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
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> "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> > >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > >
> > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one
told
> her.
> >
> > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in
good
> enough
> > shape for it.
>
> Who is this on Team Fuji here:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
>
> I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
>
> Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
>
> "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
>
>
> -kjp
"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
>
> "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03 1:29
> > >PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > >
> > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no one told
> her.
> >
> > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
> enough
> > shape for it.
>
> Who is this on Team Fuji here:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
>
> I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
>
> Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
>
> "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
I talked to her after the race, but didn't get her name. The pic was taken after she pulled out of
her pedal near the top of Fillmore - she said that restarting on that grade didn't seem like a
viable option, so there was no choice but to walk.
Andy Coggan
In article <IQM9b.10$3r1.5656@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>, Mark VandenBerghe <markv@vdbprop.com> wrote:
> Ken, she wasn't really in the race was she? That's a spectator, right?
>
> Mark VandenBerghe
>
>
If you look close enough you can see what look like a frame number that must be attached to
her seatpoast since the number is back under the seat. you can just see a bit of the lovely
pink of a number.
My, ain't you guys really beautiful?
I was coming up Corral Hollow Rd from Tracy and I stopped at the motorcycle park because someone in
the group had to use the can. This HUGE HUGE HUGE fat guy came riding by. He was 300 lbs if he was
an ounce. He and a very fit looking friend rode by and a couple of minutes after we headed out after
them. It was something like three miles from there to the top including some 15%+ steeps and when I
got to the top ahead of everyone else in my group that fat guy had been up there so long that any
sweat he might have produced was completely dry. His hair was combed and he was laughing and joking
with a tired looking thin buddy.
Someone mentioned that Dutchman in the Vuelta that is nicknamed "Chicken" because he has such skinny
legs. And yet he won a stage.
You can't tell about people by looking at them.
"Mark VandenBerghe" <markv@vdbprop.com> wrote in message news:IQM9b.10$3r1.5656@nntp1-sf.pbi.net...
> Ken, she wasn't really in the race was she? That's a spectator,
right?
>
> Mark VandenBerghe
>
>
> "Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message news:gZK9b.479547$uu5.82518@sccrnsc04...
> >
> > "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF? From: "Mark VandenBerghe" markv@vdbprop.com Date: 9/16/03
> > > >1:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: <yoK9b.9$3r1.5772@nntp1-sf.pbi.net>
> > > >
> > > >Well, Linda Elgart was on the start list for Webcor. Alas no
one told
> > her.
> > >
> > > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in
good
> > enough
> > > shape for it.
> >
> > Who is this on Team Fuji here:
> >
> > http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
> >
> > I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
> >
> > Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
> >
> > "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
> >
> >
> > -kjp
> >
>
"Mark VandenBerghe" <markv@3r1.5656@nntp1-sf.pbi.net...
> Ken, she wasn't really in the race was she? That's a spectator, right?
Nope. Team Fuji. First lap... race over.
>
> Mark VandenBerghe
>
>
> "Ken Papai" <ken@.82518@sccrnsc04...
> >
> > "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
> > > >Subject: Re: Oldest Racer in SF?
> > > She knew. She didn't race because she didn't consider herself in good
> > enough
> > > shape for it.
> >
> > Who is this on Team Fuji here:
> >
> > http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
> >
> > I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
> >
> > Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
> >
> > "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
> >
> >
> > -kjp
> >
>
"Andy Coggan" <acoggan.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Ken Papai" <ken@.82518@sccrnsc04...
> >
> > "Joshua Zlotlow" <jazlotlow@@mb-m13.aol.com...
>> >
> > Who is this on Team Fuji here:
> >
> > http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2003/women/last0602.jpg
> >
> > I thought the women's race required at least a Cat. 2 ??
> >
> > Those two full water bottles look pretty optimistic.
> >
> > "What, someone said there were freaking HILLS in San Francisco?!"
>
> I talked to her after the race, but didn't get her name. The pic was taken after she pulled out of
> her pedal near the top of Fillmore - she said that
Not that near the top -- she still had the huge final block to climb.
> restarting on that grade didn't seem like a viable option, so there was no choice but to walk.
I don't think there really was a choice. Who wants to walk up a very steep street in racing shoes in
front of 10,000 screaming lunatics who so high on the race?
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