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Sonarrat

WC road champion

Ewoud Dronkert

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:34:50 -0700, Sonarrat wrote:
> WC road champion

Richard Adams

Sonarrat wrote:

> WC road champion
>
>

Another Cofidis rider in rainbows. Could we stood it?

Steve McGinty

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:35:23 +0200, Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:34:50 -0700, Sonarrat wrote:
>> WC road champion

1 Igor Astarloa (Spain) 6.30.19 2 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spain) 0.05 3 Peter Van Petegem
(Belgium) 4 Paolo Bettini (Italy) 5 Michael Boogerd (Netherlands) 0.06 6 Bo Hamburger (Denmark)
7 Michael Barry (Canada) 8 Luca Paolini (Italy) 0.12 9 Oscar Freire Gomez (Spain) 10 Janek
Tombak (Estonia)

Regards! Stephen

Sonarrat

"Ewoud Dronkert" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:34:50 -0700, Sonarrat wrote:
> > WC road champion

1 Igor Astarloa (Spain) 6.30.19 2 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spain) 0.05 3 Peter Van Petegem
(Belgium) 4 Paolo Bettini (Italy) 5 Michael Boogerd (Netherlands) 0.06 6 Bo Hamburger (Denmark) 7
Michael Barry (Canada) <------------------------ 8 Luca Paolini (Italy) 0.12 9 Oscar Freire Gomez
(Spain) 10 Janek Tombak (Estonia) 11 Erik Zabel (Germany) 0.12 12 Allan Davis (Australia)
<----------------- 13 Martin Elmiger (Switzerland) 14 Dmitri Konyshev (Russia) 15 Frank Hoj
(Denmark) 16 Patrik Sinkewitz (Germany) 17 Tom Boonen (Belgium) 18 Fred Rodriguez (USA)
<------------------------- 19 Tadej Valjavec (Slovenia) 20 Giovanni Lombardi (Italy) 21 Beat Zberg
(Switzerland) 22 Aliaksandr Usov (Belarus) 23 Bernhard Eisel (Austria) 24 Maarten Den Bakker
(Netherlands) 25 Gerben Loewik (Netherlands) 26 Cedric Vasseur (France) 27 Gerrit Glomser (Austria)
28 Kim Kirchen (Luxembourg)

Sonarrat

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message news:bmcalm$27@dispatch.concentric.net...
> Sonarrat wrote:
>
> > WC road champion
> >
> >
>
> Another Cofidis rider in rainbows. Could we stood it?

No, Saeco.

-Sonarrat.

Sonarrat

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message news:bmcalm$27@dispatch.concentric.net...
> Sonarrat wrote:
>
> > > WC road champion
> >
>> Another Cofidis rider in rainbows. Could we stood it?

>No, Saeco.

Nevermind. I forgot he signed with them.

-Sonarrat.

Richard Adams

Sonarrat wrote:

> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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>
>>Sonarrat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>WC road champion
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Another Cofidis rider in rainbows. Could we stood it?
>
>
> No, Saeco.
>
> -Sonarrat.
>
>

Signed with Cofidis for 2004, IIRC, that'll pair him up with David Millar.

John Forrest To

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:43:20 -0700, "Sonarrat"
>7 Michael Barry (Canada) <------------------------

Dammn that's a good ride.

JT

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Nick Burns

"erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
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> astarloa is kicking himself for signing before worlds, huh?... i hope his manager had a "if i win
> worlds" clause...

Any rider that sign before the event takes that chance. They are pros. They know the risks and the
perks of what they do.

Kurgan Gringion

"Nick Burns" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031012161139.09953.00000208@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > astarloa is kicking himself for signing before worlds, huh?... i hope his manager had a "if i
> > win worlds" clause...
>
> Any rider that sign before the event takes that chance. They are pros. They know the risks and the
> perks of what they do.

Dumbass -

After he's done celebrating, he will be kicking himself. You would too - there may be several
hundred thousand dollars' difference in salary.

Nick Burns

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Nick Burns" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031012161139.09953.00000208@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > > astarloa is kicking himself for signing before worlds, huh?... i hope
his
> > > manager had a "if i win worlds" clause...
> >
> > Any rider that sign before the event takes that chance. They are pros.
They
> > know the risks and the perks of what they do.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> After he's done celebrating, he will be kicking himself. You would too - there may be several
> hundred thousand dollars' difference in salary.

If he is kicking himself it would only because he failed to get a contract that rewarded wins. By
your logic, no pro should ever sign before the end of the season. There are obviously benefits to
signing sooner, or else nobody would do it.

Dumbass.

Kurgan Gringion

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> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Nick Burns" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031012161139.09953.00000208@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > > > astarloa is kicking himself for signing before worlds, huh?... i hope
> his
> > > > manager had a "if i win worlds" clause...
> > >
> > > Any rider that sign before the event takes that chance. They are pros.
> They
> > > know the risks and the perks of what they do.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dumbass -
> >
> > After he's done celebrating, he will be kicking himself. You would too - there may be several
> > hundred thousand dollars' difference in salary.
>
> If he is kicking himself it would only because he failed to get a contract that rewarded wins. By
> your logic, no pro should ever sign before the end
of
> the season. There are obviously benefits to signing sooner, or else nobody would do it.

Dumbass -

He'll still be kicking himself. You would too.

Ken Papai

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Nick Burns" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031012161139.09953.00000208@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > > astarloa is kicking himself for signing before worlds, huh?... i hope
his
> > > manager had a "if i win worlds" clause...
> >
> > Any rider that sign before the event takes that chance. They are pros.
They
> > know the risks and the perks of what they do.
>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> After he's done celebrating, he will be kicking himself. You would too - there may be several
> hundred thousand dollars' difference in salary.

And just the opposite too -- what if he were injured in Hamilton?

Astarola signed when the time was right. Who knows -- maybe his signing "early" calmed him and he
was able to relax and visualize and thus win WORLDS!

-Ken

Nick Burns

"Ken Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message
>
> And just the opposite too -- what if he were injured in Hamilton?
>
> Astarola signed when the time was right. Who knows -- maybe his signing "early" calmed him and he
> was able to relax and visualize and thus win WORLDS!
>
> -Ken
>

And maybe he did have a clause that made it worth his while to win.

Sheesh.

Robert Chung

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:43:20 -0700, "Sonarrat"
>> 7 Michael Barry (Canada) <------------------------
>
> Dammn that's a good ride.

I was impressed that Valverde came from nowhere to snatch silver in front of PVP and Bettini. PVP
slammed his fist on his bars in frustration.

H Squared

Robert Chung wrote:
>
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:43:20 -0700, "Sonarrat"
> >> 7 Michael Barry (Canada) <------------------------
> >
> > Dammn that's a good ride.
>
> I was impressed that Valverde came from nowhere to snatch silver in front of PVP and Bettini. PVP
> slammed his fist on his bars in frustration.

yeah, he looked a bit self reproachful on the podium before receiving his medal.

heather- didn't actually get to see the sprint for second, because the canadian channel cut away
right as it was happening to a shot of astarloa smiling. i guess i should be grateful that i got to
see it on tv for once though.

Fred Marx

perfectly executed spoiler header.... gold star! :) :^O

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:34:50 -0700, Sonarrat wrote:
>
>>WC road champion

Fred Marx

> If he is kicking himself it would only because he failed to get a contract that rewarded wins. By
> your logic, no pro should ever sign before the end of the season. There are obviously benefits to
> signing sooner, or else nobody would do it.

yeah like actually having a contract?

>
> Dumbass.