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I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting. Is it possible the diffusion of my
Hypergravity track and my method Hypergravity training in US?
http://www.pistacentrifuga.com/eng_new/index_e.htm http://www.iaaf.org/links/kind=29/index.html ing.
Giuseppe Scuderi
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:08 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
,,,and waiting, and waiting, and waiting.
>Is it possible the diffusion of my Hypergravity track and my method Hypergravity training in US?
If you can't speak or type english, why do you try? You only make yourself look stupider than you
already are.
>http://www.pistaientrifuga.com/eng_new/index_e.htm http://www.iaaf.org/liiks/kind=29/index.html
>ing. Giuseppe Scuderi
"bagpipp" <Bagpipp@aol.com> wrote in message <snip>
> If you can't speak or type english, why do you try? You only make yourself look stupider than you
> already are.
English with a capital E, please J
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:37:56 +0200, "Jonathan Sydenham" <sydenham@mail.dk> wrote:
>
>"bagpipp" <Bagpipp@aol.com> wrote in message <snip>
>> If you can't speak or type english, why do you try? You only make yourself look stupider than you
>> already are.
>
>English with a capital E, please J
>
Oh the irony...
I haven't seen interesting anwers. What there is in your mind? "TB" <TheBagpip@aol.com> ha scritto
nel messaggio news:no6apv0f95dcan122to9ov4eglgk59ei9f@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:37:56 +0200, "Jonathan Sydenham" <sydenham@mail.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"bagpipp" <Bagpipp@aol.com> wrote in message <snip>
> >> If you can't speak or type english, why do you try? You only make yourself look stupider than
> >> you already are.
> >
> >English with a capital E, please J
> >
> Oh the irony...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:08:05 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>I haven't seen interesting anwers. What there is in your mind?
Cobwebs, fog, haze, and an echoe.
Mmmm... Seems to have become the "Thread from Yoda"
TheBagpimp@aold.com wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:08:05 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>
>
>>I haven't seen interesting anwers. What there is in your mind?
>
>
> Cobwebs, fog, haze, and an echoe.
--
Random number generation is too vital a task to be left to chance.
"Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message news:bn37g4$8po$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
> I haven't seen interesting anwers. What there is in your mind?
Pizza
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:08 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting. Is it possible the diffusion of my
>Hypergravity track and my method Hypergravity training in US?
>http://www.pistacentrifuga.com/eng_new/index_e.htm http://www.iaaf.org/links/kind=29/index.html
>ing. Giuseppe Scuderi
>
>
If the purpose of your track is to create "hypergravity" aren't there several exitsing
methods that are much easier, cheaper and with less risk than your track? Why not wear a
weight vest or run hills. All provide similar "hypergravity" effects.
~Matt
You are in wrong. If you wear a weight vest you don't increase the gravity acceleration but only the
mass and the weight force. Only incresing the gravity acceleration, you can increse contemporary the
frequency of the step and the ground reaction force. And also is possible to run with the maximum
human power in the run, 42% more trhan the power in 100 metres dash.(University of Rome). I and
other scientist will show it in a conference in dicember 2003 in Catania. I have the geat honor my
track will be present by Pietro Mennea world recordman in 200 metres gold medal in the olympic games
of Moscow (Excuse my english). He is for me the best sprinter in the world. A withe man who has run
200 in 19.72 23 years ago is mitic. ing. Giuseppe Scuderi
<MJuric> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3f956833.980249@news.choiceone.net...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:08 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>
> >I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting. Is it possible the diffusion of
> >my Hypergravity track and my method Hypergravity training in US?
> >http://www.pistacentrifuga.com/eng_new/index_e.htm http://www.iaaf.org/links/kind=29/index.html
> >ing. Giuseppe Scuderi
> >
> >
>
> If the purpose of your track is to create "hypergravity" aren't there several exitsing methods
> that are much easier, cheaper and with less risk than your track? Why not wear a weight vest or
> run hills. All provide similar "hypergravity" effects.
>
> ~Matt
"Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
> I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
I think, Guiseppe, that you are, perhaps, completely insane. On the other hand, you may be an
innovative genius.
Whichever of these alternative eventually proves to be true, I admire your personal courage in
pursuing your dream and I hope you achieve some degree of recognition for applying a degree of
radical thought to sprint training.
I like you Guiseppe. I hope you're right and I hope you become a wealthy man. Even if you don't you
can be proud that you got off your ass and tried something new. I can guarantee that NONE of your
detractors on rec.running have ever demonstrated that particular trait.
Best of luck!
Frazer.
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:47:30 +0100, "apusapus" <apusapus@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>"Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
>
>> I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
>
>I think, Guiseppe, that you are, perhaps, completely insane.
Talking to yourself AGAIN Frasier?
Thank you very much, but i can not speak of my track in your newsgroup. I have seen you are not
interested. You like run with the traditional systems. "apusapus" <apusapus@clara.co.uk> ha scritto
nel messaggio news:1066765649.10781.0@lotis.uk.clara.net...
> "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message
> news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
>
> > I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
>
> I think, Guiseppe, that you are, perhaps, completely insane. On the
other
> hand, you may be an innovative genius.
>
> Whichever of these alternative eventually proves to be true, I admire your personal courage in
> pursuing your dream and I hope you achieve some degree of recognition for applying a degree of
> radical thought to sprint
training.
>
> I like you Guiseppe. I hope you're right and I hope you become a wealthy man. Even if you don't
> you can be proud that you got off your ass and tried something new. I can guarantee that NONE of
> your detractors on rec.running have ever demonstrated that particular trait.
>
> Best of luck!
>
>
> Frazer.
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:58:42 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>You are in wrong. If you wear a weight vest you don't increase the gravity acceleration but only
>the mass and the weight force.
Whoaaa. How in the hell are you increasing the acceleration of gravity. Now your claiming
this track changes the laws of physics. As I see it you are merely increasing the force
being applied to the runner via "centrifigal" force. The same effect as adding a few lbs to
your body. The only real differnece I can potential see is that the weight is more even
distributed throughout the the body. I.E. The legs would "appear" to be heavier also. etc.
>Only incresing the gravity acceleration, you can increse contemporary the frequency of the step and
>the ground reaction force.
Again you aren't changing gravity acceleration.
>And also is possible to run with the maximum human power in the run, 42% more trhan the power in
>100 metres dash.(University of Rome). I and other scientist will show it in a conference in
>dicember 2003 in Catania. I have the geat honor my track will be present by Pietro Mennea world
>recordman in 200 metres gold medal in the olympic games of Moscow (Excuse my english). He is for me
>the best sprinter in the world. A withe man who has run 200 in 19.72 23 years ago is mitic. ing.
>Giuseppe Scuderi
I'm sure you may have some great sprinters that have run on your track. However there are
great sprinters that have drank Sterno and we aren't all saying that's a great training
method. Until a true scientific study is done, with control groups and some volume of
participants pointing out a good sprinter used your product does nothing to prove the
benefits of your product.
~Matt
>
>
><MJuric> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3f956833.980249@news.choiceone.net...
>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:26:08 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>>
>> >I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting. Is it possible the diffusion of
>> >my Hypergravity track and my method Hypergravity training in US?
>> >http://www.pistacentrifuga.com/eng_new/index_e.htm http://www.iaaf.org/links/kind=29/index.html
>> >ing. Giuseppe Scuderi
>> >
>> >
>>
>> If the purpose of your track is to create "hypergravity" aren't there several exitsing methods
>> that are much easier, cheaper and with less risk than your track? Why not wear a weight vest or
>> run hills. All provide similar "hypergravity" effects.
>>
>> ~Matt
>
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:46:24 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>Thank you very much, but i can not speak of my track in your newsgroup. I have seen you are not
>interested. You like run with the traditional systems.
Interested yes, convinced no. I suspect that if I told you that kumping off a bridge would
make you faster you might question the validity of my claim. BTW jumping off a bridge will
make you faster, for a little while.
~Matt
>"apusapus" <apusapus@clara.co.uk> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:1066765649.10781.0@lotis.uk.clara.net...
>> "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message
>> news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
>>
>> > I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
>>
>> I think, Guiseppe, that you are, perhaps, completely insane. On the
>other
>> hand, you may be an innovative genius.
>>
>> Whichever of these alternative eventually proves to be true, I admire your personal courage in
>> pursuing your dream and I hope you achieve some degree of recognition for applying a degree of
>> radical thought to sprint
>training.
>>
>> I like you Guiseppe. I hope you're right and I hope you become a wealthy man. Even if you don't
>> you can be proud that you got off your ass and tried something new. I can guarantee that NONE of
>> your detractors on rec.running have ever demonstrated that particular trait.
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>>
>> Frazer.
>>
>
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:47:30 +0100, "apusapus" <apusapus@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>"Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
>
>> I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
>
> I can guarantee that NONE of your detractors on
> rec.running have ever demonstrated that particular trait.
I'm detractor. I don't run with weighted ankles, drink 64 gallons of water a day, run in a
sweat suit or eat 15 Power Bars before a 5K. Questioning the validity and use of a product
is not only inteligent but necessary. A claim does not a good product make. OTOH I
definately try things out that I think have merit and many times come up with my own
"products" and "Methods"
~Matt
>
>Best of luck!
>
>
>Frazer.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:19:57 GMT, MJuric wrote:
> OTOH I definately try things out that I think have merit and many times come up with my own
> "products" and "Methods"
>
>~Matt
>
I think the police dept calls that your "M.O."
In article <3f9680a7.72787238@news.choiceone.net>, MJuric wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:47:30 +0100, "apusapus" <apusapus@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote in message
>>news:bn2fug$p3d$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it...
>>
>>> I like to know who thinks that my track is useful. I am waiting.
>>
>
>> I can guarantee that NONE of your detractors on
>> rec.running have ever demonstrated that particular trait.
>
> I'm detractor. I don't run with weighted ankles, drink 64 gallons of water a day, run in a
> sweat suit or eat 15 Power Bars before a 5K. Questioning the validity and use of a product
> is not only inteligent but necessary. A claim does not a good product make. OTOH I
> definately try things out that I think have merit and many times come up with my own
> "products" and "Methods"
I think everyone should be skeptical of an unproven product. However, being skeptical is not "being
a detractor". My initial impression of Giuseppe was that he was some kind of nutcase, but he has at
least shown that he can put together a plausible story/defense about his system.
It should be noted that his system is designed for *low volume strength training*, so (a) it's
probably not as interesting to most posters here as it is to sprinters, and (b) most of the concerns
about the potential for chronic stress/overuse injuries resulting from the banking are probably not
applicable (since he does not recommend a high volume of training on this surface.)
So while I'm far from endorsing his system, it certainly has merit, but like the majority of
research projects, the odds of it becoming the next great training innovation are probably
pretty low.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
In article <3f967ec1.72300779@news.choiceone.net>, MJuric wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:58:42 +0200, "Giuseppe Scuderi" <scuderig@inwind.it> wrote:
>
>>You are in wrong. If you wear a weight vest you don't increase the gravity acceleration but only
>>the mass and the weight force.
>
> Whoaaa. How in the hell are you increasing the acceleration of gravity.
Well, you effectively are. When you land, you produce a force that counters gravitational
acceleration, plus an acceleration force, and the resultant, orthogonal to the track, is of greater
magnitude than g.
Your body doesn't really care whether the acceleration comes from gravity or from centripital
acceleration forces -- as long as it's orthogonal to the running surface, your body doesn't know the
difference.
> Now your claiming this track changes the laws of physics. As I see it you are merely increasing
> the force being applied to the runner via "centrifigal" force. The same effect as adding a few lbs
> to your body.
No, it is not the same at all, because adding a few pounds to your body changes the force and your
effective mass at the same time, so acceleration stays constant.
What he's doing is increasing the force without increasing the body mass, so acceleration is
increased.
> The only real differnece I can potential see is that the weight is more even distributed
> throughout the the body. I.E. The legs would "appear" to be heavier also. etc.
Wrong. The fact that acceleration is increased really is important. It forces a higher turnover rate
or the same turnover rate + a higher acceleration of the same mass.
>>Only incresing the gravity acceleration, you can increse contemporary the frequency of the step
>>and the ground reaction force.
>
> Again you aren't changing gravity acceleration.
It doesn't matter. You are changing acceleration orthogonal to the running surface, which has
precisely the same effect (the only difference is that you get residual lateral acceleration terms
if the banking is imprecise, but as he's already pointed out, you already get this sort of thing on
a flat track too, and he's only advocating a modest training volume)
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Dear Donovan, i have seen you have understood to me. You have good scientific acquaintances.
> I think everyone should be skeptical of an unproven product. However,
being
> skeptical is not "being a detractor". My initial impression of Giuseppe
was
> that he was some kind of nutcase, but he has at least shown that he can put together a plausible
> story/defense about his system.
Actually the italian recordman in 400 metres indoor uses this method. He is trained by
University of Rome.
> It should be noted that his system is designed for *low volume strength
training*,
Exactly
> so (a) it's probably not as interesting to most posters here as it is to sprinters,
Exactly
and (b) most of the concerns about the potential for chronic stress/overuse
> injuries resulting from the banking are probably not applicable (since he
does
> not recommend a high volume of training on this surface.)
Exactly
> So while I'm far from endorsing his system, it certainly has merit, but
like
> the majority of research projects, the odds of it becoming the next great training innovation are
> probably pretty low.
I hope and i am very happy to show it in US, in a conference. In Italy i am invited in 3
conferences. I hope to be invited in US. If someone can help me, i will be very happy.
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
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