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Putting on weight
I have started running after a couple of years being very sedentary using Sam Murphy's "Run for
life" book, which I am getting on very well with and am six weeks into her programme.
I weighed the other day and have put on a few pounds - is the running responsible?
Many thanks
In article <1068224939.19215.0@demeter.uk.clara.net>, Rosie wrote:
> I have started running after a couple of years being very sedentary using Sam Murphy's "Run for
> life" book, which I am getting on very well with and am six weeks into her programme.
>
> I weighed the other day and have put on a few pounds - is the running responsible?
>
> Many thanks
That's called a two pound difference in weight measurements, not a two pound weight gain. There are
a lot of factors that could account for this, and running would not be among the more likely
candidates.
BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
repectively more/less calories than you burn. So if your level of activity increases and your food
intake stays the same, your weight will actually drop. If your food intake increases moderately to
match your level of activity, your weight will stay the same, but your body composition will
probably change (that is, you become leaner)
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
repectively more/less calories than you burn.
________
Are you sure Donovan? I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while
taking in less calories than you burn. In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as
you reduce fat mass. The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the
muscle mass...which is something that actually weighs more than fat mass...and results in a net
weight gain.
It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive the
weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased muscle
mass and weight gain. No?
In article <20031107203614.00108.00000220@mb-m10.aol.com>, Globaldisc wrote:
> BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
> repectively more/less calories than you burn.
> ________
>
> Are you sure Donovan?
Absolutely.
> I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while taking in less calories
> than you burn.
No, you can't. The above is similar to a bodybuilders pre-contest diet -- what will happen is that
you'll lose weight, but hopefully hang on to some lean tissue.
> In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as you reduce fat mass.
This is actually only true for those in the "rapid beginner gains" phase. For someone who's been
lifting for a while, it's very difficult to lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time. Usually,
beginners to weight lifting actually stay at about the same weight, unless they are fairly
overweight or very thin (and eat a lot).
> The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the muscle mass...which is
> something that actually weighs more than
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> fat mass...and results in a net weight gain.
^^^^^^^^^^
What do you mean by this ? fat is less dense, so what happens to those who have improved body
composition is they get smaller but weight the same ("firm up")
> It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive
> the weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased
> muscle mass and weight gain. No?
In the bodybuilding world, they never try to gain mass and lose fat at the same time. They take in
plenty of calories, and then "cut up" close to contest time.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
I told you he was a know-nothing idiot.. Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll, a convincing one with his
phony studies and websites (which he no doubt builds himself) but a troll nonetheless. Even a
non-runner would suspect he's full of it. TBR
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 02:25:27 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <20031107203614.00108.00000220@mb-m10.aol.com>, Globaldisc wrote:
>> BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking
>> in repectively more/less calories than you burn.
>> ________
>>
>> Are you sure Donovan?
>
>Absolutely.
>
>> I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while taking in less
>> calories than you burn.
>
>No, you can't. The above is similar to a bodybuilders pre-contest diet -- what will happen is that
>you'll lose weight, but hopefully hang on to some lean tissue.
>
>> In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as you reduce fat mass.
>
>This is actually only true for those in the "rapid beginner gains" phase. For someone who's been
>lifting for a while, it's very difficult to lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time.
>Usually, beginners to weight lifting actually stay at about the same weight, unless they are fairly
>overweight or very thin (and eat a lot).
>
>> The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the muscle mass...which is
>> something that actually weighs more than
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> fat mass...and results in a net weight gain.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What do you mean by this ? fat is less dense, so what happens to those who have improved body
>composition is they get smaller but weight the same ("firm up")
>
>> It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive
>> the weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased
>> muscle mass and weight gain. No?
>
>In the bodybuilding world, they never try to gain mass and lose fat at the same time. They take in
>plenty of calories, and then "cut up" close to contest time.
>
>Cheers,
In article <jpgpqvc4vdmg8nme4o02hmfupfu3mforso@4ax.com>, +++++ wrote:
> I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..
Oh, the irony
> Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,
Oh, the irony
> a convincing one with his phony studies
You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.
> and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)
And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue with a trolll ...
> Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.
Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners viewpoint.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Roger, this man is another edu poster ... are you going to give him the Ashby treatment maybe?
Jonathan "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
news:slrnbqptq1.4gp.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
> In article <jpgpqvc4vdmg8nme4o02hmfupfu3mforso@4ax.com>, +++++ wrote:
> > I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..
>
> Oh, the irony
>
> > Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,
>
> Oh, the irony
>
> > a convincing one with his phony studies
>
> You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.
>
> > and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)
>
> And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue
with
> a trolll ...
>
> > Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.
>
> Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners
viewpoint.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
See, like I said, a BS artist.
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:01:37 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <jpgpqvc4vdmg8nme4o02hmfupfu3mforso@4ax.com>, +++++ wrote:
>> I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..
>
>Oh, the irony
>
>> Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,
>
>Oh, the irony
>
>> a convincing one with his phony studies
>
>You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.
>
>> and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)
>
>And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue with a trolll ...
>
>> Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.
>
>Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners viewpoint.
>
>Cheers,
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:15:25 +0100, "Jonathan Sydenham" <sydenham@mail.dk> wrote:
>Roger, this man is another edu poster ... are you going to give him the Ashby treatment maybe?
In america we call it an atomic-wedgie.
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