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Greetings,
it was cold and foggy when I hauled out the pushbike this morning when I made ready for the 12 mile
commute to work. How my spirits rose as I cycled past the 4 mile tailback of stressed and fuming car
drivers who couldn't get on the A40 at Ruislip. I imagine if it had been warm enough for flies I
would have caught hundreds in my grin!
T.T.F.N.
SPENNY
"Spencer Bullen" <sblg05326@blueyonder.co.uk>typed
> Greetings,
> it was cold and foggy when I hauled out the pushbike this morning when I made ready for the 12
> mile commute to work. How my spirits rose as I cycled past the 4 mile tailback of stressed and
> fuming car drivers who couldn't get on the A40 at Ruislip. I imagine if it had been warm enough
> for flies I would have caught hundreds in my grin!
> T.T.F.N.
> SPENNY
Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
carriageway closed this morning.
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Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk Edgware.
"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2003111400280185140@zetnet.co.uk...
> "Spencer Bullen" <sblg05326@blueyonder.co.uk>typed
>
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > it was cold and foggy when I hauled out the pushbike this morning when I made ready for the 12
> > mile commute to work. How my spirits rose as I
cycled
> > past the 4 mile tailback of stressed and fuming car drivers who couldn't
get
> > on the A40 at Ruislip. I imagine if it had been warm enough for flies I would have caught
> > hundreds in my grin!
>
> > T.T.F.N.
>
> > SPENNY
>
>
> Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
> carriageway closed this morning.
>
Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
charged with drink driving.
"elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com>typed
> >
> >
> > Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
> > carriageway closed this morning.
> >
> Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
> charged with drink driving.
But it was 'safe' to exceed the national speed limit, wasn't it? The road was nearly empty, the
sightlines were good etc, etc...
I used to commute by bike along there.
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Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk Edgware.
"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2003111410352685140@zetnet.co.uk...
> But it was 'safe' to exceed the national speed limit, wasn't it? The road was nearly empty, the
> sightlines were good etc, etc...
>
It may well have been safe enough to do 70 instead of 60 or 80 instead of 70 if it was dual
carriageway. What was clearly not safe was to race another car at speeds which no doubt greatly
exceeded the limit whilst under the influence of alcohol as well. Those who like to see things in
black and white ignore the fact that in between there are many shades of grey. It isn't always safe
to travel at the limit, it isn't always unsafe to exceed
it. Everything depends on the circumstances.
Rich
Rich
> It may well have been safe enough to do 70 instead of 60 or 80 instead of
70
> if it was dual carriageway. What was clearly not safe was to race another car at speeds which no
> doubt greatly exceeded the limit whilst under the influence of alcohol as well. Those who like to
> see things in black and white ignore the fact that in between there are many shades of grey. It
> isn't always safe to travel at the limit, it isn't always unsafe to exceed
> it. Everything depends on the circumstances.
>
> Rich
>
>
> Rich
>
>
Absolutely!! Well put.
People with Boolean logicsets for brains frighten the hell out of me.
Nan
"elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mY1tb.3664
>
> Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
> charged with drink driving.
Probably a pilot on his way to Heathrow.
Simon
In article <2003111410352685140@zetnet.co.uk>, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>"elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com>typed
>> >
>> > Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
>> > carriageway closed this morning.
>
>> Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
>> charged with drink driving.
>
>But it was 'safe' to exceed the national speed limit, wasn't it? The road was nearly empty, the
>sightlines were good etc, etc...
You can exceed the national speed limit and still be a lot slower than a BMW driver trying to race.
It's possible that they could have done 80mph safely (it's also possible that they couldn't - but
that they caused a crash when (presumably) going much faster doesn't show that).
"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2003111410352685140@zetnet.co.uk...
> "elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com>typed
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
> > > carriageway closed this morning.
> > >
>
> > Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
> > charged with drink driving.
>
> But it was 'safe' to exceed the national speed limit, wasn't it? The road was nearly empty, the
> sightlines were good etc, etc...
>
> I used to commute by bike along there.
Don't imagine the speed limit was considered by these bastards. I'm more interested in what
punishment they get. Poor lorry driver has lost his life and his family a loved one.
KC
In message <vr9kprp9i2n1ad@corp.supernews.com>, Simon Mason <simon@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> writes
>
>"elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mY1tb.3664
>>
>> Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
>> charged with drink driving.
>
> Probably a pilot on his way to Heathrow.
>
Back in the 1980s I drove a van for Boeing. There were no speed cameras then and you'd be amazed
what a Transit van could do, given an aircraft spare tyre over the back axle for stability. I was
told the airline uniforms that were passing even me were cabin crew rather than pilots - their
schedules were tighter, and anyway commercial pilots are selected for following rules exactly.
It became common knowledge than some cabin-crew schedules actually depended on them speeding on the
M25 between Heathrow and Gatwick, and a clampdown eventually followed.
--
Sue ];(:)
"Simon Mason" <simon@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mY1tb.3664
> >
> > Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
> > charged with drink driving.
>
> Probably a pilot on his way to Heathrow.
Oooh!
Pete
Richard Goodman wrote:
> It isn't always safe to travel at the limit, it isn't always unsafe to exceed
> it.
It is, however, always illegal.
--
Guy
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:16:50 GMT, "elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Spies tell me 2 BMWs raced & lorry was crashed, last night. Someone died. A40 still had one
>> carriageway closed this morning.
>>
>
>Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
>charged with drink driving.
>
AFAIK, the lorry driver died soon after the accident and one of the BMW drivers was over the limit.
All six lanes were blocked and both BMW's were written off.
James
--
"Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.
Sue <SPAM@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message news:<wqhFRKKYITt$EwZa@mashtub.demon.co.uk>...
> In message <vr9kprp9i2n1ad@corp.supernews.com>, Simon Mason <simon@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> writes
> >
> >"elyob" <newsprofile@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mY1tb.3664
> >>
> >> Newspaper told me that both the beemer drivers did a runner, both were arrested later, one also
> >> charged with drink driving.
> >
> > Probably a pilot on his way to Heathrow.
> >
> Back in the 1980s I drove a van for Boeing. There were no speed cameras then and you'd be amazed
> what a Transit van could do, given an aircraft spare tyre over the back axle for stability. I was
> told the airline uniforms that were passing even me were cabin crew rather than pilots - their
> schedules were tighter, and anyway commercial pilots are selected for following rules exactly.
>
> It became common knowledge than some cabin-crew schedules actually depended on them speeding on
> the M25 between Heathrow and Gatwick, and a clampdown eventually followed.
I was alluding the recent case of the pilots getting slopped up in Oslo and then attempting to fly
back to the UK still drunk. Simon
"Sue" <SPAM@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message news:wqhFRKKYITt$EwZa@mashtub.demon.co.uk...
> I was told the airline uniforms that were passing even me were cabin crew rather than pilots -
> their schedules were tighter, and anyway commercial pilots are selected for following rules
> exactly.
And the rules relating to alcohol consumption and flying are.........?
Pete
James Hodson wrote:
> both BMW's were written off.
Don't spoil the tale of woe by trying to inject a positive note at the end.
--
Guy
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In message <bp4mul$5dk$1@titan.btinternet.com>, Peter B <peter28@btinternet.com> writes
>
>"Sue" <SPAM@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message news:wqhFRKKYITt$EwZa@mashtub.demon.co.uk...
>> I was told the airline uniforms that were passing even me were cabin crew rather than pilots -
>> their schedules were tighter, and anyway commercial pilots are selected for following rules
>> exactly.
>
>And the rules relating to alcohol consumption and flying are.........?
>
So there's an occasional selection error. They could've found worse: have you seen this classic
Darwin Award citation?
http://www.darwinawards.com/ then click on "Mile High Club Failure"
--
Sue ];(:)
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>James Hodson wrote:
>
>> both BMW's were written off.
>
>Don't spoil the tale of woe by trying to inject a positive note at the end.
I know someone who manages to drive both a BMW and a Volvo (no, not at the same time) and still be a
decent bloke.
"Alan Braggins" <armb@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
news:slrnbri4v9.18f.armb@chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> >James Hodson wrote:
> >
> >> both BMW's were written off.
> >
> >Don't spoil the tale of woe by trying to inject a positive note at the
end.
>
> I know someone who manages to drive both a BMW and a Volvo (no, not at the same time) and still be
> a decent bloke.
There is an exception to every generalisation ;-)
(Oh, BTW, <stage whisper> Guy drives a Volvo).
Pete
Peter B wrote:
> (Oh, BTW, <stage whisper> Guy drives a Volvo).
Only when unavoidable, though. And usually camouflaged beneath a layer of bikes or building
materials.
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