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Erik Saunders

i am pretty impressed that some people on RBR care enough to post about grand master flash.. and
better yet to translate rap lyrics into french... some people are actually cool... that makes me
feel good... i dont normally figure that bike racers care about much in the way of either the
roots of hip hop (when it was good, not like now) or the french language, let alone both at the
same time...

Bobby Carter

go with your first instinct "erik saunders" <eriksaun@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031115114801.20183.00000312@mb-m04.aol.com...
> i am pretty impressed that some people on RBR care enough to post about
grand
> master flash.. and better yet to translate rap lyrics into french... some people are actually
> cool... that makes me feel good... i dont normally
figure
> that bike racers care about much in the way of either the roots of hip hop (when it was good, not
> like now) or the french language, let alone both at
the
> same time...

Racerx

Hip Hop Hip Hop, or rap music began as a largely black, inner-city phenomenon of the late ‘70s and
early ‘80s. Hip Hop was originally a strictly live idiom, performed at clubs and parties (often
illegally thrown in NYC parks). The music grew out Jamaican DJ, or Toasting, music, disco and the
burgeoning, (and intimately connected), electro-funk sound. Jamaican DJ music was the blueprint,
with its reliance on a turntable and a DJ, or MC, who called out rhythmic phrases and chants over
and between bass heavy dub records. Hip Hop used this same style but often rhymed over funk and
disco beats and breaks, a technique developed by DJ Kool Herc in the mid ‘70s. Hip Hop also
established the DJ innovations of cutting, back spinning and scratching, largely through the work of
Grand Master Flash. The Sugarhill Gang recorded the first rap single in '79 with the commercial cash
in, Cold Crush Bros. Rip off "Rapper's Delight." Hip Hop established itself as commercially viable
in the next few years with "Planet Rock" by Africa Bambataa and the Soul Sonic Force, and "The
Message" by Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. Hip Hop began to crossover into mainstream
commercial success with the rock heavy rhymes of Run DMC and the novelty, party raps of The Fat
Boys. A number of other artists found commercial success in this period including Whodini, Kurtis
Blow, UTFO, LL Cool J and many others. After the mid ‘80s rap began to solidify itself as a genre
and to branch out into a number of different styles and sub-genres. Today everything from the top of
the pops derivative Puff Daddy, Swizz Beats stuff, the Sci-fi, stream-of-consciousness work of Kool
Keith, the underground, black consciousness of Blackstar, the studied New York violence of Mobb
Deep, to the Southern booty shake of Quad City DJs all fall under the hip hop umbrella.

Ilan Vardi

I think Breton rap was invented so that French rock and roll could have something they could feel
superior to.

-ilan

eriksaun@aol.com (erik saunders) wrote in message
news:<20031115114801.20183.00000312@mb-m04.aol.com>...
> i am pretty impressed that some people on RBR care enough to post about grand master flash.. and
> better yet to translate rap lyrics into french... some people are actually cool... that makes me
> feel good... i dont normally figure that bike racers care about much in the way of either the
> roots of hip hop (when it was good, not like now) or the french language, let alone both at the
> same time...

Erik Saunders

who the hell is from brittany that raps!?...

they march in the streets wearing skirts and playing bag pipes all day then go to the bar for beers
and sausages!...

Andrew Martin

eriksaun@aol.com (erik saunders) wrote in message
news:<20031115114801.20183.00000312@mb-m04.aol.com>...
> i am pretty impressed that some people on RBR care enough to post about grand master flash.. and
> better yet to translate rap lyrics into french... some people are actually cool... that makes me
> feel good... i dont normally figure that bike racers care about much in the way of either the
> roots of hip hop (when it was good, not like now) or the french language, let alone both at the
> same time...

MC Solar French Rapper - hilarious stuff. It's far more main stream over there.

-a

Howard Kveck

In article <20031118110802.00847.00000530@mb-m28.aol.com>, eriksaun@aol.com (erik saunders) wrote:

> who the hell is from brittany that raps!?...
>
> they march in the streets wearing skirts and playing bag pipes all day then go to the bar for
> beers and sausages!...

It's not rap, but French band Carnival in Coal are pretty rockin' on their record French Cancan.
They do black metal covers (complete wth Cookie Monster vocals) of such songs as "Bark at the
Moon", "Baker Street" and "Maniac" (you know, the song from "Flash Dance"). Hilarious.

--
tanx, Howard

"Danger, you haven't seen the last of me!"
"No, but the first of you turns my stomach!"
Firesign Theatre

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Ilan Vardi

eriksaun@aol.com (erik saunders) wrote in message
news:<20031118110802.00847.00000530@mb-m28.aol.com>...
> who the hell is from brittany that raps!?...
>
> they march in the streets wearing skirts and playing bag pipes all day then go to the bar for
> beers and sausages!...

OK, I just had to prove my point Breton Rap by posting these lyrics which should be compared to
those of mythical group Spinal Tap (lyrics given below):

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Manau

Le Chant des Druides

Il fût un temps bien avant notre ère, les édificateurs de mégalithes étaient sur terre. Brillantes
civilisations qui n'ont pas laissé d'écriture, mais des monuments et de mystérieuses gravures. Manau
prend le micro et s'aide du hip hop, pour raconter des histoires et des mythes de ce peuple. Il
m'arrive parfois de rêver de tout ça. De l'âge du bronze, du fer et même d'Alésia. Mais je me
demande pourquoi, ce qu'il se passe des fois, quand le vent de la mer se lève et entre dans les sous
bois, on peut entendre les récits des rois accompagnés par des chants et de douces voix. C'est le
vent de la mer qui doucement les transporte, les histoires, les contes de l'ancienne époque. C'est
comme une musique qui resterait pure et limpide. J'ai pu entendre le chant des druides.

Je l'entends qui me guide Le chant des druides Mon flow est son fluide Le chant des druides Si clair
et si limpide C'est le chant des druides

Mais le chant des druides agit tel un fluide, apprends à l'écouter il te servira comme un guide,
pour raconter des contes et des histoires de chevalerie, de grandes batailles de monstres et de
tours de magie, c'est l'âme celtique, historique, antique. Les siècles ont passé, mais elle reste
identique, comme à la grande période du début mégalithique. Les dolmens sont là et ils sont
authentiques. Je sais que tu auras du mal à croire ces histoires, que tu pourras entendre seulement
la nuit très tard le soir. N'essaye pas de lutter avec des idées noires. Laisse toi glisser,
éclairer tel un phare. C'est comme une ombre qui sortirait d'un tapis de lumière, une révélation,
quelque chose d'éphémère qui coulera en toi, une musique presque liquide. Viens écouter le chant
des druides.

{Refrain}

Mais le chant des druides c'est ma réalité. Il me sert de guide, tu l'avais deviné. Pour poser
tranquillement les mots sur un bout de papier l'inspiration de Manau ce qui l'aide à méditer, voilà
pourquoi, je ne veux pas me poser de questions. Est-ce que toutes ces voix viennent de mon
imagination ? En fait j'accepte cette situation. Le chant des druides, fruit de mon inspiration, car
j'aime plonger mon esprit souvent dans le passé et ne pas me demander où est la vérité. Je continue
de rêver, je ne suis pas le dernier à pouvoir écouter tous ces chants sacrés. Et même si la vie
s'oppose au caractère de ces choses, je ne veux pas trouver la cause et continuerai ma prose. Alors
croyez moi pour cela, je veux rester candide et pouvoir écouter toute ma vie le chant des druides.

{Refrain}

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Spinal Tap

STONEHENGE

Stonehenge, where the demons dwell Where the banshees live and they do live well Stonehenge Where a
man is a man and the children dance to the pipes of pan Stonehenge Tis a magic place where the moon
doth rise With a dragon's face Stonehenge Where the virgins lie And the prayer of devils fill the
midnight sky And you my love, won't you take my hand We'll go back in time to that mystic land Where
the dew drops cry and the cats meow I will take you there I will show you how

Howard Kveck

In article <20031119112047.05710.00000518@mb-m13.aol.com>, eriksaun@aol.com (erik saunders) wrote:

> yeah.. manau sucks though.. i remember turning off the radio a lot whenever one of their hip-hop
> remakes of traditional breton songs came on... they remind me alot of "House of Pain"...

I think Muggs of HoP is a pretty decent DJ, but to hear him, you have to put up with Everlast's
insipid vocals/rhymes. Bleah...

--
tanx, Howard

"Danger, you haven't seen the last of me!"
"No, but the first of you turns my stomach!"
Firesign Theatre

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