I CAN'T HEAR YOU????

[Father Ted]

Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs -
whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living in
an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the
particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their lives posting to
Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and
hypocrisy--- is deafening

Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.

SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!

[Danny]

The moral of the story is:

Religion is bollox. It causes more bad than good, probably the major contributor to war and
conflict, other than financial gain.

Why? Because dumb humans believe that they are special. Unique. When they are not. They are animals
just like all the other living organisms on this earth.

"Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
> just share a religion with
Israel
> are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as
> their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed
> 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the particular silence and lack of
> outrage from
certain
> people, who spend half their lives posting to Usenet, about the
Israel/Arab
> conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
>
> Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
> Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
> your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>
> SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!

[Musicmax]

"Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:

> Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
> just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs -
> whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living
> in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the
> particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their lives posting to
> Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and
> hypocrisy--- is deafening
>
> Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
> Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
> your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.

I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.

But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.

THAT is the difference.

[Harry]

"MusicMax" <mRuEsMiOcVmEa!x@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns943490D9D9BD6musicmax@24.25.9.41...
> "Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>
> > Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People
> > who just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political
> > beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents
> > were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just
> > curious at the particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their
> > lives posting to Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The
> > silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
> >
> > Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
> > Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
> > your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>
> I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>
> But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>
> THAT is the difference!

WOW! So why don't you at least criticize? Non-Avocation is sitting on the fence! It is neither in
agreement or disavowal. You just don't stand up and encourage it - that is avocation You are a
hypocrite!! If 36 years of occupation is evil - what is this bombing on innocents?? more evil? I
don't think so! You ARE a hypocrite Max - as the good Father says. You take the so-called moral
high-ground, but when it comes down to it. you are just another pissant loser who says "Don't do as
I do, do as I say"

[Musicmax]

"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:

>
> "MusicMax" <mRuEsMiOcVmEa!x@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns943490D9D9BD6musicmax@24.25.9.41...
>> "Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>
>> > Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People
>> > who just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political
>> > beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents
>> > were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just
>> > curious at the particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their
>> > lives posting to Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The
>> > silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
>> >
>> > Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against
>> > Jews. Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden
>> > behind your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>>
>> I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>
>> But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>
>> THAT is the difference!
>
> WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?

You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.

> Non-Avocation is sitting on the fence!

Well, you ARE an advocate of thirty six years of oppressive military occupation.

> It is neither in agreement or disavowal.

You have been in agreement with oppressive military occupation for up to thirty-six years.

> You just don't stand up and encourage it - that is avocation

You DO advocate thirty six years of oppressive military occupation.

> You are a hypocrite!!

Ad hominem in absence of fact. So predictable.

> If 36 years of occupation is evil

Why do you put "if" in there? Afraid to deviate one micron from your "Israel Uber Alles" mindset?

> are just another pissant loser who says "Don't do as I do, do as I say"

And what have you DONE or SAID to oppose thirty-six years of oppressive military occupation?

Just what I thought.

[Donovan Rebbech]

In article <Xns9434940E39ACAmusicmax@24.25.9.41>, MusicMax wrote:
> "Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>> I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>>
>>> But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>>
>>> THAT is the difference!
>>
>> WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?
>
> You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.

Nothing that you've posted addresses his point. Why don't you just come out and say something like

"Yes, you're absolutely correct, Harold. You win." ?

It's a much more concise and to-the-point rephrasing of what you said.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

[Jim]

Israel was given by the God of Abraham. That same God shows us that we are ALL sinners. Murder is a
sin. So is not honor of your parents, so is lying, so is not honoring the Sabath. When you do one
sin, you are guilty of them all. There is only one mediator to the Father of Abraham, and that is
the Messiah, Jesus. Confess you are a sinner and die to your sins and live in the Spirit. Chrisitans
are not good, we recognize we are bad. Show me a Christian who thinks they are good, and I will show
you someone who does not know Christ.

No data has ever come to prove that Jesus did not exist. That same God caused BC became AD. Only the
true God changed time. Judah and Islam call him a great prophet, yet he claims to be God. How can
one be a good prophet and be a liar?

All of this conflict in the Middle East will end when the Messiah returns again. This has been
prophesized for thousands of years. It has been known forever. Until this happens, evil men (from
all sides) will kill each other.

> SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!

Yes, Ted, I am ashamed...Are you?

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

Father Ted wrote:
> Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
> just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs -
> whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living
> in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the
> particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their lives posting to
> Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and
> hypocrisy--- is deafening
>
> Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
> Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
> your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>
> SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!
>

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

Danny wrote:
> The moral of the story is:
>
> Religion is bollox. It causes more bad than good, probably the major contributor to war and
> conflict, other than financial gain.
>
> Why? Because dumb humans believe that they are special. Unique. When they are not. They are
> animals just like all the other living organisms on this earth.
>
>
>
> "Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>
>>Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
>>just share a religion with
>
> Israel
>
>>are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as
>>their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed
>>'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the particular silence and lack of
>>outrage from
>
> certain
>
>>people, who spend half their lives posting to Usenet, about the
>
> Israel/Arab
>
>>conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
>>
>>Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
>>Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
>>your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>>
>>SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!
>>
>>
>>
>

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

MusicMax wrote:
> "Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>
>
>>Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People who
>>just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political beliefs -
>>whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents were living
>>in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just curious at the
>>particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their lives posting to
>>Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The silence---and
>>hypocrisy--- is deafening
>>
>>Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
>>Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
>>your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>
>
> I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>
> But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>
> THAT is the difference.

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

Harry wrote:
> "MusicMax" <mRuEsMiOcVmEa!x@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns943490D9D9BD6musicmax@24.25.9.41...
>
>>"Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>
>>
>>>Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People
>>>who just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political
>>>beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents
>>>were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just
>>>curious at the particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their
>>>lives posting to Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The
>>>silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
>>>
>>>Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
>>>Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
>>>your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>>
>>I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>
>>But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>
>>THAT is the difference!
>
>
> WOW! So why don't you at least criticize? Non-Avocation is sitting on the fence! It is neither in
> agreement or disavowal. You just don't stand up and encourage it - that is avocation You are a
> hypocrite!! If 36 years of occupation is evil - what is this bombing on innocents?? more evil? I
> don't think so! You ARE a hypocrite Max - as the good Father says. You take the so-called moral
> high-ground, but when it comes down to it. you are just another pissant loser who says "Don't do
> as I do, do as I say"

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

MusicMax wrote:
> "Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>
>
>>"MusicMax" <mRuEsMiOcVmEa!x@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns943490D9D9BD6musicmax@24.25.9.41...
>>
>>>"Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote in news:bp5su3$qae$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well...another Islamic act of murder against innocents. Istanbul - November 15 2003.....People
>>>>who just share a religion with Israel are targeted- for their religion, not their political
>>>>beliefs - whilst praying to the same god as their murderers pray to!! Further, these innocents
>>>>were living in an Islamic country, and enjoyed 'Guest Rights' under Organic rules. I'm just
>>>>curious at the particular silence and lack of outrage from certain people, who spend half their
>>>>lives posting to Usenet, about the Israel/Arab conflict and how civilians are targeted. The
>>>>silence---and hypocrisy--- is deafening
>>>>
>>>>Where is XPUser now? MusicMax? The bigot-AWAKE???? Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
>>>>Maybe now we can just accept that your views represent a much baser view, and that hidden behind
>>>>your veneer, you are just old-fashioned anti-Semites.
>>>
>>>I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>>
>>>But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>>
>>>THAT is the difference!
>>
>>WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?
>
>
> You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.
>
>
>>Non-Avocation is sitting on the fence!
>
>
> Well, you ARE an advocate of thirty six years of oppressive military occupation.
>
>
>>It is neither in agreement or disavowal.
>
>
> You have been in agreement with oppressive military occupation for up to thirty-six years.
>
>
>>You just don't stand up and encourage it - that is avocation
>
>
> You DO advocate thirty six years of oppressive military occupation.
>
>
>>You are a hypocrite!!
>
>
> Ad hominem in absence of fact. So predictable.
>
>
>>If 36 years of occupation is evil
>
>
> Why do you put "if" in there? Afraid to deviate one micron from your "Israel Uber Alles" mindset?
>
>
>>are just another pissant loser who says "Don't do as I do, do as I say"
>
>
> And what have you DONE or SAID to oppose thirty-six years of oppressive military occupation?
>
> Just what I thought.

[Musicmax]

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in news:slrnbrd1oo.rd1.abuse@panix2.panix.com:

> In article <Xns9434940E39ACAmusicmax@24.25.9.41>, MusicMax wrote:
>> "Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>>> I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>>>
>>>> But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>>>
>>>> THAT is the difference!
>>>
>>> WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?
>>
>> You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.
>
> Nothing that you've posted addresses his point.

He had a point? He hasn't for thirty-six years; why should he start now?

> Why don't you just come out and say something like
>
> "Yes, you're absolutely correct, Harold. You win." ?
>
> It's a much more concise and to-the-point rephrasing of what you said.

Is your poster of Ariel Sharon autographed in blood? Thought so.

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> In article <Xns9434940E39ACAmusicmax@24.25.9.41>, MusicMax wrote:
>
>>"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>
>>>>I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>>>
>>>>But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>>>
>>>>THAT is the difference!
>>>
>>>WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?
>>
>>You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.
>
>
> Nothing that you've posted addresses his point. Why don't you just come out and say something like
>
> "Yes, you're absolutely correct, Harold. You win." ?
>
> It's a much more concise and to-the-point rephrasing of what you said.
>
> Cheers,

[Donovan Rebbech]

In article <Xns94349E43654CBmusicmax@24.25.9.41>, MusicMax wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in news:slrnbrd1oo.rd1.abuse@panix2.panix.com:

>> Nothing that you've posted addresses his point.
>
> He had a point? He hasn't for thirty-six years;

Yes, he did.

>> It's a much more concise and to-the-point rephrasing of what you said.
>
> Is your poster of Ariel Sharon autographed in blood? Thought so.

Oh great, another non-sequiter. You're wrong again, I'm not a fan of Sharon.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

MusicMax wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in news:slrnbrd1oo.rd1.abuse@panix2.panix.com:
>
>
>>In article <Xns9434940E39ACAmusicmax@24.25.9.41>, MusicMax wrote:
>>
>>>"Harry" <harry@leavemealone.com> wrote in news:bp5uos$270$1@titan.btinternet.com:
>>>
>>>>>I don't advocate the Istanbul attacks.
>>>>>
>>>>>But you DO advocate thirty-six-year-long oppressive military occupations.
>>>>>
>>>>>THAT is the difference!
>>>>
>>>>WOW! So why don't you at least criticize?
>>>
>>>You've had thirty six years to criticize oppressive military occupation. I've yet to hear a peep.
>>
>>Nothing that you've posted addresses his point.
>
>
> He had a point? He hasn't for thirty-six years; why should he start now?
>
>
>>Why don't you just come out and say something like
>>
>>"Yes, you're absolutely correct, Harold. You win." ?
>>
>>It's a much more concise and to-the-point rephrasing of what you said.
>
>
> Is your poster of Ariel Sharon autographed in blood? Thought so.

[Musicmax]

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in news:slrnbrd3sb.20b.abuse@panix2.panix.com:

>> Is your poster of Ariel Sharon autographed in blood? Thought so.
>
> Oh great, another non-sequiter. You're wrong again, I'm not a fan of Sharon.

Then post the Google URL of one of your posts condemning thirty-six years of military occupation.
Here, I'll give you a start:

http://groups.google.com/_____________________________________________

[Anne Thracks]

Father Ted wrote:
>
> Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.

Thank you for your opinion. I'm sure most people would agree with you.

As most Europeans have said in a recent poll, Israel is the biggest threat to world peace.

The Jews are the spawn of Satan. They're liars, thieves, and murderers, just like Jesus Christ said
in John 8:44.

And the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares tells us that the filthy, stinking, Satanic Jews are all
going to go by fire! Looks like the traditional enemies of the truth are going to get their
"holocaust" after all!

Praise YHVH!

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

Anne Thracks wrote:
> Father Ted wrote:
>
>>
>>Terrorism is ok as long as it's against Jews.
>
>
> Thank you for your opinion. I'm sure most people would agree with you.
>
> As most Europeans have said in a recent poll, Israel is the biggest threat to world peace.
>
> The Jews are the spawn of Satan. They're liars, thieves, and murderers, just like Jesus Christ
> said in John 8:44.
>
> And the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares tells us that the filthy, stinking, Satanic Jews are
> all going to go by fire! Looks like the traditional enemies of the truth are going to get their
> "holocaust" after all!
>
> Praise YHVH!

[Greek_philosoph]

Are you sure?

jim wrote:
> Israel was given by the God of Abraham. That same God shows us that we are ALL sinners. Murder is
> a sin. So is not honor of your parents, so is lying, so is not honoring the Sabath. When you do
> one sin, you are guilty of them all. There is only one mediator to the Father of Abraham, and that
> is the Messiah, Jesus. Confess you are a sinner and die to your sins and live in the Spirit.
> Chrisitans are not good, we recognize we are bad. Show me a Christian who thinks they are good,
> and I will show you someone who does not know Christ.
>
> No data has ever come to prove that Jesus did not exist. That same God caused BC became AD. Only
> the true God changed time. Judah and Islam call him a great prophet, yet he claims to be God. How
> can one be a good prophet and be a liar?
>
> All of this conflict in the Middle East will end when the Messiah returns again. This has been
> prophesized for thousands of years. It has been known forever. Until this happens, evil men (from
> all sides) will kill each other.
>
>
>>SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!
>
>
> Yes, Ted, I am ashamed...Are you?