Pedaling and ankle movement

[Perre]

I've been watching a lot of photos of people racing and noticed that many times the ankle ís fully
stretched out when the foot is at the high, 12'o clock position.

When observing what I do myself it seems that my foot is pretty much flat through the whole circle.

What are the pros and cons of this? Does it imply that I'm not roundpedaling or are the people with
stretched out ankles in a sprint or some other situation that calls for this. It seems that it would
put uneccesary strain on the knees to flex the ankle so much. The opposite would of course be to
have your heel lower than the pedal at the top of the stroke and higher at the bottom. This would
call for the least kneemovement, but of course felt pretty weird doing.

I've read all the advice about scraping mud off your foot at the bottom and pretending you are
rolling a barrow at the top. When I do this it feels like my heels are below the pedal through the
entire circle.

Does the fore-aft positioning on the saddle chaange how the ankle is flexing?

I would really appreciate some pointers on what to look for when I practise. Does anyone know a
website explaining this in detail.

[Risto Varanka]

Perre <per.elmsater@emersonenergy.com> wrote:
: I've been watching a lot of photos of people racing and noticed that many times the ankle ís fully
: stretched out when the foot is at the high, 12'o clock position.

Mainstream training guidelines seem to have it that your ankle is extended on the back part of your
pedal stroke (6 to 12), to put it very roughly. If you extend your ankle while pushing down, you can
utilize calf muscles, I would assume.

If one is sprinting at a high rpm, the ankle remains extended through a larger part of the pedal
revolution.

: I would really appreciate some pointers on what to look for when I practise. Does anyone know a
: website explaining this in detail.

Read Serious Cycling, or find the websites. It's been discussed in the .misc and .tech groups in the
recent months.

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[Carl Sundquist]

per.elmsater@emersonenergy.com (Perre) wrote in message
>
> I would really appreciate some pointers on what to look for when I practise. Does anyone know a
> website explaining this in detail.

Ask Noel Crowley http://tinyurl.com/4hk7

[Risto Varanka]

"Per Elmsäter" <perdotelmsater@teliadot.com> wrote:
: <risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
: news:b04a0a$ofq$2@oravannahka.helsinki.fi...
:> Perre <per.elmsater@emersonenergy.com> wrote:
:> : I've been watching a lot of photos of people racing and noticed that many times the ankle ís
:> : fully stretched out when the foot is at the high, 12'o clock position.
:>
:> Read Serious Cycling, or find the websites. It's been discussed in the .misc and .tech groups in
:> the recent months.
:>
: Thanks

: I take it you mean the one written by Ed Burke. Wonder if they will let me buy chapter 9 "The
: Biomechanics of Cycling" only ;)

1. Buy the book
2. Rip out chapter 9
3. Sell first part of book as "special edition of SC which parts which don't apply in modern
training removed"
4. 3 months later, sell the end part of book as a special supplement to the first part

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[Per ElmsäTer]

<risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
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> "Per Elmsäter" <perdotelmsater@teliadot.com> wrote:
> : <risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
> : news:b04a0a$ofq$2@oravannahka.helsinki.fi...
> :> Perre <per.elmsater@emersonenergy.com> wrote:
> :> : I've been watching a lot of photos of people racing and noticed that many times the ankle ís
> :> : fully stretched out when the foot is at the high, 12'o clock position.
> :>
> :> Read Serious Cycling, or find the websites. It's been discussed in the .misc and .tech groups
> :> in the recent months.
> :>
> : Thanks
>
> : I take it you mean the one written by Ed Burke. Wonder if they will let
me
> : buy chapter 9 "The Biomechanics of Cycling" only ;)
>
> 1. Buy the book
> 2. Rip out chapter 9
> 3. Sell first part of book as "special edition of SC which parts which don't apply in modern
> training removed"
> 4. 3 months later, sell the end part of book as a special supplement to
the first part
>

Good idea. The book is already ordered, so I can't lose. If it's no good however I'll take the ferry
across the Baltic and rip you out ;)

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Perre

[Per ElmsäTer]

"Mike S." <mikeshaw@coxDOTnet> wrote in message news:Q8iV9.35770$ym4.4120387@news2.west.cox.net...
> go check out www.coachcarl.com too. He's got lots of interesting tidbits there.
>
> Mike

I've been spending hours at his site now. There is an amazing amount of interesting
information there.

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[Donald Munro]

risto.varanka wrote:
>1. Buy the book
>2. Rip out chapter 9
>3. Sell first part of book as "special edition of SC which parts which don't apply in modern
> training removed"
>4. 3 months later, sell the end part of book as a special supplement to the first part

Have you considered applying for a job at Micro$oft.

[Risto Varanka]

"Per Elmsäter" <perdotelmsater@teliadot.com> wrote:
: Good idea. The book is already ordered, so I can't lose. If it's no good however I'll take the
: ferry across the Baltic and rip you out ;)

Hmm I *need* that lowracer!

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[Peter Buchas]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Perre" <per.elmsater@emersonenergy.com> Newsgroups:
rec.bicycles.racing Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Pedaling and ankle movement

> I've been watching a lot of photos of people racing and noticed that many times the ankle ís fully
> stretched out when the foot is at the high, 12'o clock position.

Well, there is one more point, you have to observe: From your photos you hardly can tell the cadence
they are pedalling. When pedalling with higher frequencies you will discover that your "ankle-angle"
is rising, so you are pedalling with your ankles stretched out more. At cadences over 120 even you
will have another angle as well. If you prefer that, you for instance can train it by including
cadence-pyramids in your GII units.

Regards, Peter Buchas